2 [SPU] FreeFall11 Members 1 post 3,468 battles Report post #1 Posted January 28, 2018 CV Captains know they can move their ships right? How many times does a CV have to deal with an enemy DD that gets a little bit too friendly alone because they refused to move their ship before they realize there's an easy solution to the problem? I know i'm just venting some of my frustration out here, but really guys? Youre gonna refuse to just tap W at the beginning of the match, before your fighters even come off cooldown to launch, and then you have the audacity to crapbricks at your team when a DD rolls around in spawn looking for a free kill and your tasty hull is sitting there? Sorry mate, but i'm not the one who needs to be put on blast for you not rotating with the team. We're all here at the points trying to cap them or kill the enemy, idk why you're still all the way back there sucking your toes for no reason. Even moving forward and getting closer is beneficial to you and the team! You rotate away from the easy pickings zone, get a little closer to the fight and you cut precious seconds off the time that your planes have to make when returning to your ship! Youre closer to the group, safer, youre not as easy to predict your location, AND youre able to be useful to the fight. It's literally a plus for everyone to just move from spawn and try to keep around the team as much as you can. Look, Im not asking you to be up with the cruisers or get in BB firing range. That's too close to the fight. But what I'm humbly requesting is that you try to micromanage your ship and just try to keep close enough for us to protect you AND win the match, because we cant to both when youre sitting afk in the spawn area because you couldnt be asked to move a little bit. Dont put the rest of the team on blast because you dont know how to use the W key. video-1517101013.mp4 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
963 [HINON] Warped_1 [HINON] Members 2,497 posts 30,290 battles Report post #2 Posted January 28, 2018 Experienced CV players move, others take awhile.... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
484 [SOUP] Atomic_Manatee [SOUP] Members 1,680 posts 7,380 battles Report post #3 Posted January 28, 2018 When I'm sailing on my carriers, the first thing I do is start her engines and keep an eye on the tactical map to better position myself, and turn around to avoid danger if necessary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
873 [SCCC] Peregrinas Members 3,181 posts 17,709 battles Report post #4 Posted January 28, 2018 7 minutes ago, Warped_1 said: Experienced CV players move, others take awhile.... Then there are those that wait until all of their aircraft are launched and circling their CV before they move them in one huge group, while the enemy CV’s fighters are already spotting DDs in the caps and moving in to strike a DD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,271 [QNA] Dareios Beta Testers 2,256 posts Report post #5 Posted January 28, 2018 this IS very, very true. but... remember, micromanaging 8 things at once, in a game where many players will scream bloody murder if 100% of your attention isnt solely devoted to them and them alone, means that you cant always be fully on top of everything that happens. so, while trying to successfully win a micro strafe war with the enemy, manual drop torps so that they are both effective and not deleted by AA, steering DBs to optimum angle and hopefully manual dropping them as well, while keeping the enemy DDs spotted, means the average-good CV player can usually only manage an auto waypoint and half speed. Compound this with the fact that certain players will ignore DDs due to the 'too hard to hit the little buggers, im going for the fat and sassy BB, and that a CV might need 3 minutes to get planes back and deal with that pesky DD. If he can. Sure, map awareness is key, certainly for CVs, but so should it be for all the team. And if youre one of those who claims that CVs have the biggest influnce in game people, shouldnt you give a thought to their safety, in the same way you wish that they had fighters available for yours? Finally, as to moving up with the fleet. Yes... but (again). A very fine line that even some skilled CV players struggle with is where to and how much to push up. Ive certainly made errors and sailed steadily 10km behind a mass blob of allied BBs to reduce plane reload time, and while microing a drop, lost focus on the minimap, and not realised that our 5 BBs got scared or their 4 and turned around... suddenly you are spotted as 3/5 of your blob retreats behind you (and most BBs ARE faster than most CVs, and turn and accelerate better too)... and if theres one thing the average player likes to do more than shoot fat BBs, its shoot obese, crippled CVs (probably some karmic retribution in that, hey?) anyways, pretty much agreeing with OP. Certainly some potato CV drivers out there. just offering counter argument to 'dont blast the CV if you dont understand how much he is trying to do'. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,848 [ARRGG] CLUCH_CARGO [ARRGG] Members 5,770 posts Report post #6 Posted January 28, 2018 Maybe you need to be that CV player. Try it you might like it. CV's are a valuable asset on any team. Instead of venting about poor CV play take the helm and play it. I am not belittling you or the CV player base. I can't Play CV effectively but maybe you can. The insights you have mentioned may or may not be the answer in all scenarios. CV players receive a bad reputation sometimes deserving sometimes not. Like all Classes of ships there are good players and bad. I have great games in CA/CL's and BB's Bad play in DD's but getting better and when it comes to the CV's I have zero Skills and would rather not play them for the benefit of the team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,106 [ERN] MajorRenegade Alpha Tester, Alpha Tester, In AlfaTesters, Beta Testers 10,906 posts 4,896 battles Report post #7 Posted January 28, 2018 10 minutes ago, Peregrinas said: Then there are those that wait until all of their aircraft are launched and circling their CV before they move them in one huge group, while the enemy CV’s fighters are already spotting DDs in the caps and moving in to strike a DD or sending them on the edge of the map trying to snipe the enemy cv while remaining still. ended up wasting 5min for a fail snipe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,260 cometguy Members 2,992 posts 5,204 battles Report post #8 Posted January 28, 2018 I'm not going to start moving my CV until I know where the fleet is going to go, which can take a while when everyone who spawns east goes west, and everyone who spawns west goes east. Even then, I'm not going to go far until I know whether the team is going to allow aggressive positioning. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,276 anonym_Hf93Jbjm9WjT Members 4,302 posts Report post #9 Posted January 28, 2018 1 hour ago, FreeFall11 said: CV Captains know they can move their ships right? video-1517101013.mp4 My W does nothing, I use the Z key to go forward (AZERTY keyboard) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
314 [STAR] Cpt_JM_Nascimento Members 651 posts 26,769 battles Report post #10 Posted January 28, 2018 I will improve your comment a bit. CV players know how the auto-pilot works right? Solved no issue dealing with micromanaging + the ship as well. Unfortunatelly most players that dont move an inch with their carriers dont frequent the foruns either. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,380 [JEDI-] xalmgrey Members 2,839 posts 11,375 battles Report post #11 Posted January 28, 2018 I hang behind the group and use auto pilot to keep myself near the group. If the enemy carrier is decent he's gonna try and snipe you right away so moving is a must. Islands usually are your friend.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
722 StoneRhino Members 3,256 posts 4,322 battles Report post #12 Posted January 28, 2018 2 hours ago, FreeFall11 said: CV Captains know they can move their ships right? How many times does a CV have to deal with an enemy DD that gets a little bit too friendly alone because they refused to move their ship before they realize there's an easy solution to the problem? I know i'm just venting some of my frustration out here, but really guys? Youre gonna refuse to just tap W at the beginning of the match, before your fighters even come off cooldown to launch, and then you have the audacity to crapbricks at your team when a DD rolls around in spawn looking for a free kill and your tasty hull is sitting there? Sorry mate, but i'm not the one who needs to be put on blast for you not rotating with the team. We're all here at the points trying to cap them or kill the enemy, idk why you're still all the way back there sucking your toes for no reason. Even moving forward and getting closer is beneficial to you and the team! You rotate away from the easy pickings zone, get a little closer to the fight and you cut precious seconds off the time that your planes have to make when returning to your ship! Youre closer to the group, safer, youre not as easy to predict your location, AND youre able to be useful to the fight. It's literally a plus for everyone to just move from spawn and try to keep around the team as much as you can. Look, Im not asking you to be up with the cruisers or get in BB firing range. That's too close to the fight. But what I'm humbly requesting is that you try to micromanage your ship and just try to keep close enough for us to protect you AND win the match, because we cant to both when youre sitting afk in the spawn area because you couldnt be asked to move a little bit. Dont put the rest of the team on blast because you dont know how to use the W key. video-1517101013.mp4 It's actually spelled "BB" not cv. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
