To the stat shamers in ranked...

[Cpt_Cupcake]

You do understand that your XVM clone is pulling stats for whatever battle type your in, right? So those "only under 10 battles played"  your complaining about are wrong, they only show for the type your in. @Ram_Rodyou might find this interesting...

[Komrade_Rylo]

Salt is real. The only xvm ATM (not 100% sure but like 90% sure) is match making monitor. It pulls your random battle stats for whatever ship you're sailing in.

[Cpt_Cupcake]

I really don't like stat shaming. The salt is very real in ranked, when you get it with in the first minute...

 

[Komrade_Rylo]

3 minutes ago, Cpt_Cupcake said:

I really don't like stat shaming. The salt is very real in ranked, when you get it with in the first minute...

 

You can always ignore the person

[Cpt_Cupcake]

10 minutes ago, Fog_Battleship_NCarolina said:

You can always ignore the person

I figured I could educate a person by showing them the error of their ways. Now he can have a better grasp on the tools he chooses to employ, instead of being a fool.

[CLUCH_CARGO]

XVM doesn't work on private Stats. It only sends the last stat capture when it was public. { If it isn't too old }This data could be months old even years and no longer viable or reliable. Not to mention your hidden stats affect everyone's over all stats. So those who stat shame don't really have an accurate stat themselves. If enough players hide their stats the entire stat structure suffers. 

WG should make the default stats private from the opening of any account. If the player deems it necessary can turn them public at their discretion. Not the other way around as it is now.

[Th3KrimzonDemon]

I approve of neither stat shaming, nor monitors that give you a leg up by knowing which ships to go after, and which to avoid at all costs, before the round even begins. I consider it a form of cheating, personally.

[Th3KrimzonDemon]

1 minute ago, CLUCH_CARGO said:

XVM doesn't work on private Stats. It only sends the last stat capture when it was public. { If it isn't too old }This data could be months old even years and no longer viable or reliable. Not to mention your hidden stats affect everyone's over all stats. So those who stat shame don't really have an accurate stat themselves. If enough players hide their stats the entire stat structure suffers. 

WG should make the default stats private from the opening of any account. If the player deems it necessary can turn them public at their discretion. Not the other way around as it is now.

Agreed, 100%.

[Cpt_Cupcake]

1 hour ago, CLUCH_CARGO said:

XVM doesn't work on private Stats. It only sends the last stat capture when it was public. { If it isn't too old }This data could be months old even years and no longer viable or reliable. Not to mention your hidden stats affect everyone's over all stats. So those who stat shame don't really have an accurate stat themselves. If enough players hide their stats the entire stat structure suffers. 

WG should make the default stats private from the opening of any account. If the player deems it necessary can turn them public at their discretion. Not the other way around as it is now.

Personally, I'm against any kind of XVM, I wont use it. Stat sniping was common in WoT (and still is), and is probably a contributing factor in having all chat removed.

[Komrade_Rylo]

Best course of action is to treat everyone as a good player until they prove otherwise.

[Dodgy_Cookies]

30 minutes ago, Fog_Battleship_NCarolina said:

It pulls your random battle stats for whatever ship you're sailing in.

The latest version actually pulls stats from what ever game mode you are playing since the API can differentiate. That said, most people don't have enough battles in their ships for the ranked stats to mean too much, and for the most part people are within variance ranges. Though you do see 300 ranked battles Monarchs with 25k avg damage 40% win rates occasionally.

[Saetre]

He played better than you.  Git gud.

[Incendiary_Tanker]

Oh good god, we have XVM in Warships now? Well rip this community. It was nice while we still had it. 

 

Also... 

[Cpt_Cupcake]

7 minutes ago, _V12 said:

He played better than you.  Git gud.

If only it was true... I saved a star. He got only 250ish exp at the bottom. Have no problem with that. Problem is with getting stat shamed within the first 30 seconds... and every other game I get with him about the amount of battles played in a particular ship.

[HMCS_Devilfish]

43 minutes ago, Cpt_Cupcake said:

You do understand that your XVM clone is pulling stats for whatever battle type your in, right? So those "only under 10 battles played"  your complaining about are wrong, they only show for the type your in. @Ram_Rodyou might find this interesting...

I’ve noticed Stat shamers seen to be Unhappy individuals who most likely have no life outside the game   And no body likes, especially other players ...stat shamers build themselves up by trying to knock others down a very sad life really however there good at something..Stat Shaming

[Saetre]

4 minutes ago, Cpt_Cupcake said:

If only it was true... I saved a star. He got only 250ish exp at the bottom. Have no problem with that. Problem is with getting stat shamed within the first 30 seconds... and every other game I get with him about the amount of battles played in a particular ship.

I fought both of you.  He's better.  Git gud.

[Cpt_Cupcake]

9 minutes ago, _V12 said:

I fought both of you.  He's better.  Git gud.

Sure.

[Cpt_Cupcake]

49 minutes ago, _V12 said:

He played better than you.  Git gud.

You do understand I was saying he was whining about the amount of battles played in a ship, not the quality right? If not, I can break it down barney style...

[AVR_Project]

There aren't that many of us left in Ranked.  Takes 10 minutes to collect 14 players.

Pulled off a couple wins in the Alt account...   Collected a few flags.

3 more days of it...

 

[Cpt_Cupcake]

2 minutes ago, AVR_Project said:

There aren't that many of us left in Ranked.  Takes 10 minutes to collect 14 players.

Pulled off a couple wins in the Alt account...   Collected a few flags.

3 more days of it...

 

Its a grind. Should have stay on it instead of taking a break. Been playing the enterprise thinking all the good one already ranked out... there still one or two unicums ruining my day thou. lol

[AVR_Project]

6 minutes ago, Cpt_Cupcake said:

Its a grind. Should have stay on it instead of taking a break. Been playing the enterprise thinking all the good one already ranked out... there still one or two unicums trying.

For all of those who opted to NOT play ranked...   Take a look at those flags they offer for ranks 23-18...  

Those are like SUPERCONTAINERS of 100 flags.

I think that's well worth the effort to put forth a half-hearted attempt.  Better hurry.

Ranks 23-20 -- you CAN'T lose a star.  So just ratchet your way to rank 19 before it starts getting a little dicey.

--- And keep telling yourself ---  It's for the flags.  Don't get too bent out of shape for losses.  Just slog out 5 battles and see how you are doing.

[Cpt_Cupcake]

Just now, AVR_Project said:

For all of those who opted to NOT play ranked...   Take a look at those flags they offer for ranks 23-18...  

Those are like SUPERCONTAINERS of 100 flags.

I think that's well worth the effort to put forth a half-hearted attempt.  Better hurry.

Ranks 23-20 -- you CAN'T lose a star.  So just ratchet your way to rank 19 before it starts getting a little dicey.

--- And keep telling yourself ---  It's for the flags.  Don't get too bent out of shape for losses.  Just slog out 5 battles and see how you are doing.

But... I made it to R4 already....

[AVR_Project]

Just now, Cpt_Cupcake said:

But... I made it to R4 already....

I usually quit at Rank 15. 

I have something called 'A Life' that waits for me.

I'm just playing for the free stuff. 

Play too long and I won't enjoy using those flags up.

[VGLance]

 

People run all sorts of programs completely separate from XVM/Matchmaking monitor mods that run inside the game (like the one I use above).  Any computer programmer that is familiar with API's can write the program.  They are highly accurate, update instantly in real time, and extremely informative because they provide a wealth of data for the ship they brought (top set of numbers) and overall (bottom set of numbers).  If the person has their stats hidden, it will say so. But it's easy to tell if they are a Cluch_Cargo or, say a Pulicat.  If someone like Pulicat is hiding his stats, the dead giveaway is that he's dived up with two unicums who don't have their stats hidden.  Unicums aren't going to div with the Cluch_Cargos out there.

For some players, 100% of the time when a person's stats are brought up in conversation, the person who owns those stats will declare it's stat shaming.  You know you're dealing with people who cannot be reasoned with when the mere mention of stats, regardless of the level of relevancy, automatically defaults them to "stat shaming."  There are internet bullies and there are people who will use a single stat out of context that does not properly support a person's argument.  I'm not denying that.  But to claim that even the public visibility of stats, not even mentioning them, but simply the fact that they are available for public consumption is somehow toxic by itself shows just how troubled some players are.  That's like going to your local bowling alley and picketing in front of it declaring they should take down the scoring systems and monitors or put ceiling to floor barriers up so the folks in the next lane can't see other peoples' scores.

There used to be a time when men were men.  They didn't cowardly sweep their shortcomings under the rug.  They wore them like a badge and took pride in the journey of improvement, heck I sucked donkey balls when I first started playing, took a long time just to break 50%.  They didn't demonize success and accomplishment and call those who performed better than them "elitists."  And they certainly didn't find contentedness in mediocrity.  They demonstrated strength and backbone by facing their weaknesses head-on and overcoming them.  Now, instead, these spineless cowards have the nerve to say those that excel in video games or simply mention stats are people who are losers outside the game, overcompensating for the fact that they are failing in real life like this...

1 hour ago, HMCS_Devilfish said:

I’ve noticed Stat shamers seen to be Unhappy individuals who most likely have no life outside the game   And no body likes, especially other players ...stat shamers build themselves up by trying to knock others down a very sad life really however there good at something..Stat Shaming

There are people who play this game 24/7 and are damn good at it and are dead broke and have no life outside the game because they've neglected responsibilities or have let their video game addiction destroy job opportunities and personal relationships (I have two nephews who have done exactly this).  But go ahead and keep lying to yourselves that there aren't tons of woefully below average players who have just as bad and often worse a quality of life because not only do they also spend most of their waking life playing video games, they're doing it as an escape.  And hiding their stats is just another example of just how far they are willing to go to "run away" instead of taking responsibility and applying effort.

Notice (except for the occasional outliers) the overwhelming majority of people who have an issue with stats being mentioned are players who are not just below average but VERY below average.  In fact, there is roughly a direct correlation between the intensity at which a person hates the presence or mention of stats and their performance.  Gee I wonder why that is.  All that angst, all that energy spent defending the lowest common denominator... it's actually more work and more tiring having to rationalize and make excuses.  All that labor, if applied toward personal development would solve most of their problems in game and even many of them outside the game.  But it just seems so much easier to play the victim and make a bunch of historical data be the enemy.

Person A does or says something stupid (classic and daily example: shima charges cap at start of match, pops smoke, sits broadside, gets detected by enemy Des Moines radar and gets deleted in less than 3 minutes, spends the next 5 minutes blaming the team for no support; or another example, a player posting a thread on the forums about DD players blowing games when they themselves are one of the worst performing DD players on the server)

Person B brings up stats showing that there's a pattern of stupidity

Person A accuses person B of stat shaming.

No.  Just no.

One of the most evil and cowardly things a person can do is to do something wrong and flip it around in an effort to deflect away from taking accountability and make other people the "bad guy."  Tons of players in game do this and a number of them on the forum and even in this thread.  If they ever want to amount to anything in life, they better quickly find a way to squash that toxic attitude and self-destructive mindset because they may be hiding behind the safety blanket of anonymity, but they aren't fooling anyone, attitudes like that do not result in a quality life outside the game.  No woman of any quality in character would ever be attracted to a weasel like that.  And no employer with any quality job available would hire someone with that attitude either.

[Cpt_Cupcake]

8 minutes ago, VGLance said:

"Real world"

Very well written.