3,598 [PVE] IfYouSeeKhaos Members 10,596 posts 32,040 battles Report post #1 Posted January 19, 2018 Completing the HFS collection gets you the HFS Yammy camo but the stats aren't given for it. Will they be the same as a standard T10 camo? The stats for the Harekaze & Musashi are conflicting per standard camos of their tiers as the Harekaze's (T8) is missing the 50% XP bonus while they both get a 50% Commander XP bonus & niether of them show the standard 3% detection/4% dispersion bonuses. I'd hate to grind out the whole collection for a subpar camo on the Yammy...although any camo on the Yammy is better than the no cam I have for it presently I guess. Standard T10 cam is 100% XP/-50% post battle costs/20% credits/& the standard +3/+4. How will the HSF camo compare to the standard T10? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
267 Cruiser_Chicago ∞ Members 807 posts 7,069 battles Report post #2 Posted January 19, 2018 It's the same as Yamato's premium camo but with slightly different EXP modifiers, and no +20% credit gain. I initially thought it had the credit gain modifier, but I guess my info was wrong at the time. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,425 Ramsalot Members 3,114 posts 13,609 battles Report post #3 Posted January 19, 2018 39 minutes ago, Cruiser_Chicago said: It's the same as Yamato's premium camo but with slightly different EXP modifiers, and no +20% credit gain. I initially thought it had the credit gain modifier, but I guess my info was wrong at the time. It's not "slightly different", it's majorly different. Permanent camo gets +100% bonus to ALL xp, including the commander's, while K117 camo gives +50% to commander and +50% to XP. In essence permanent camo gives same bonus to commander plus another +50% to free XP. This is pretty big. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,456 [A-D-F] Vader_Sama Beta Testers 3,665 posts 12,559 battles Report post #4 Posted January 19, 2018 This was the initial stats that I saw from when the camo was first revealed for the HSF Yamato. Then it got neutered. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
256 AyanoMidori Members 480 posts 4,737 battles Report post #5 Posted January 19, 2018 God dammit... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
106 Ivlerlin Beta Testers 1,143 posts 4,964 battles Report post #6 Posted January 19, 2018 Well that stinks... but earnable is earnable. And saving Dubloons is still saving?...? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,551 [EGO] CaptainTeddybear Banned 4,105 posts 16,276 battles Report post #7 Posted January 19, 2018 Only fair, the Premium Camo is quite expensive. The HSF Camo looks way better. You could buy several low tier Premiums for the cost of one Tier 10 Camo. If you don't plan on playing a ship a lot that is a great freebie. I hope they will do something like this for Cruisers and Destroyers, they aren't the moneymakers that BB's are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,598 [PVE] IfYouSeeKhaos Members 10,596 posts 32,040 battles Report post #8 Posted January 19, 2018 13 hours ago, Cruiser_Chicago said: It's the same as Yamato's premium camo but with slightly different EXP modifiers, and no +20% credit gain. I initially thought it had the credit gain modifier, but I guess my info was wrong at the time. Thank you very much (& +1) for the info. Apparently the info you had changed... 12 hours ago, Vader_Sama said: This was the initial stats that I saw from when the camo was first revealed for the HSF Yamato. Then it got neutered. That sucks...it was a standard w/a 50% Commander XP add on...although the 20% credits will be missed this is still worthy for free...I'm just glad the 3%/4% is there...it's not listed for the Harekaze or Musashi in promo. 12 hours ago, Veksha said: It's not "slightly different", it's majorly different. Permanent camo gets +100% bonus to ALL xp, including the commander's, while K117 camo gives +50% to commander and +50% to XP. Actually standard is 0% Free/0% Commander...what Vadar has posted is standard T10 w/50% Commander XP added. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
17,266 [WOLF5] HazeGrayUnderway [WOLF5] Members 38,115 posts 30,885 battles Report post #9 Posted January 19, 2018 (edited) Just a convenient side-by-side comparison of the regular Yamato Perma-Camo with the HSF one. IMO, the regular Type 20 Perma-Camo is better. The bonus to XP is important as FreeXP, CmdrXP, uses your final XP as a starting point for calculation. Outside that difference, it's the same. More importantly, the HSF Yamato camo can be attained for free if you already had an HSF ship to work on this collection (HSF Harekaze, HSF Graf Spee, IJN Yamato / Musashi). 5k Doubloons is the cost for Tier X Perma-Camo, so getting a free one is a pretty big deal, especially since Tier X BBs are costly to run. Edited January 20, 2018 by HazeGrayUnderway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites