DD Insanity

[Soshi_Sone]

Three games yesterday...all tier 9 or 10...and it goes like this:

G1:  The only thing EITHER of two DDs have to do is cap an uncontested cap out of range of the enemy...but instead decide to engage a BB....BOTH die in the attempt....game loss.

G2:  Different map, but same scenario.  Cap an uncontested cap or engage a BB....Again, both die...game loss.

 

All four DD Drivers were top tier DD players.  T9 or T10.  I know tier doesn't always equate to strategic skill...but geez guys.

 

G3:  This one was a win, but looking at the end game it appears one enemy DD had TWO team kills and one regular kill for a -1 net.  This was a T7 Premium in a T9 match.  At least I could explain this one.  A T3 DD captain with all of 19 PVP games jumps 4 tiers (i.e., buys or wins a Sims) and winds up in a game SIX tiers above his tech tree T3. 

[Shadowrigger1]

it's called,  Mission hunting, not playing the game  :)    happens everytime there is a Mission requiring a specific class to  Hit or kill X number of specific classes.

[Dr_Venture]

Nah, 5 DD's a tier 10 match per side is pretty common...even without those stupid missions. 

[Dareios]

or... like a recent game today

4 caps, 2 dds per side.

Our dds smoke up 10km behind caps and behind our main fleet. Neither gets close to a cap all game. two BBs eventually reach one of the caps but by then its too late and team loses on points.

[biggie1447]

1 minute ago, Dr_Venture said:

Nah, 5 DD's a tier 10 match per side is pretty common...even without those stupid missions. 

It isn't the number of the DDs which is the problem, it is how they are playing. 

 

[VTAdmiral]

4 minutes ago, Dr_Venture said:

Nah, 5 DD's a tier 10 match per side is pretty common...even without those stupid missions. 

You notice he said there were only 2 destroyers on his team in both examples provided?

[jason199506]

9 minutes ago, Soshi_Sone said:

but instead decide to engage a BB

[DingBat]

7 minutes ago, Dr_Venture said:

Nah, 5 DD's a tier 10 match per side is pretty common...even without those stupid missions. 

Reading fail is fail.

[Dr_Venture]

[Soshi_Sone]

Oh, in another game, Haven map, two DDs go to one cap and the other decides to flank.  I'm in a Kurfurst...headed to "support" the cap I thought the flanking DD was headed for.  It was actually a near perfect force...a DD...a Balt..and a Kurfurst.  All my secondaries would be in range and the Balt could light up the entire cap...but nope...DD and Balt go for a flank instead.  Guy comes up on chat asking a DD to take the cap.  No answer.  I'm already full steam on a bee-line to the cap...so I come up on chat..."I guess this T10 BB will have to cap".  I did it too.  Well...I didn't achieve a cap...but freaked the daylights out of the red  DDs and CAs trying to cap...LoL...and prevented their cap.  Survived to transition to the cap we had already taken after mauling two CAs and a DD, and dodging all the torps....Crazy KM fun.

[Admiral_Thrawn_1]

11 minutes ago, Shadowrigger1 said:

it's called,  Mission hunting, not playing the game  :)    happens everytime there is a Mission requiring a specific class to  Hit or kill X number of specific classes.

Lol I sinmy took my Mogami out into battle to complete that hit enemies 500 times with main battery guns and plastered enemy BBs with shells which has the fun side effect of giving high damage totals. Now of course any enemy ship such as a DD that dared try to interfere was sunk on sight lol. This is how you complete missions lol.

[Estimated_Prophet]

4 minutes ago, jason199506 said:

More stupidity from mission writers I swear were seconded over from Tanks...

[Admiral_Thrawn_1]

5 minutes ago, Estimated_Prophet said:

More stupidity from mission writers I swear were seconded over from Tanks...

Yeah you never know, that 90,000 Torpedo damage mission I gave up on after 2-3 days of trying it here and there because it almost felt like it was a curse on my Torpedo performance. Yes I have done over 100k+ danage with Torpedoes many times in battles, but with that mission going on? Nope only came close to that amount but could not actually get it.

[GhostSwordsman]

11 minutes ago, jason199506 said:

The sad part is, that mission was really easy. All one needs is a Yuugumo with TRB equipped. Just enter into matches and torpedo BB clusters with TRB, which happens fairly often at T9 and T10. More than one ship is bound to take a torpedo, and IJN torpedoes still hurt a lot when they hit.

[Crucis]

25 minutes ago, Admiral_Thrawn_1 said:

Lol I sinmy took my Mogami out into battle to complete that hit enemies 500 times with main battery guns and plastered enemy BBs with shells which has the fun side effect of giving high damage totals. Now of course any enemy ship such as a DD that dared try to interfere was sunk on sight lol. This is how you complete missions lol.

Hitting enemies 500 times isn't that difficult, particularly if you have certain higher tier ships with very high rates of fire.  Russian or USN gunboat DDs can really do well on this.  Also a ship like the Atlanta can do well, as long as it can stay alive.  And the Khab is a beast at this sort of mission.

[Admiral_Thrawn_1]

1 minute ago, Crucis said:

Hitting enemies 500 times isn't that difficult, particularly if you have certain higher tier ships with very high rates of fire.  Russian or USN gunboat DDs can really do well on this.  Also a ship like the Atlanta can do well, as long as it can stay alive.  And the Khab is a beast at this sort of mission.

Yeah exactly and I make it a challenge for myself to complete such a mission in the fewest possible battles lol.

[NeutralState]

50 minutes ago, Soshi_Sone said:

Three games yesterday...all tier 9 or 10...and it goes like this:

G1:  The only thing EITHER of two DDs have to do is cap an uncontested cap out of range of the enemy...but instead decide to engage a BB....BOTH die in the attempt....game loss.

G2:  Different map, but same scenario.  Cap an uncontested cap or engage a BB....Again, both die...game loss.

 

All four DD Drivers were top tier DD players.  T9 or T10.  I know tier doesn't always equate to strategic skill...but geez guys.

 

G3:  This one was a win, but looking at the end game it appears one enemy DD had TWO team kills and one regular kill for a -1 net.  This was a T7 Premium in a T9 match.  At least I could explain this one.  A T3 DD captain with all of 19 PVP games jumps 4 tiers (i.e., buys or wins a Sims) and winds up in a game SIX tiers above his tech tree T3. 

Oh now people starting to want DDs. Before it's all "er mer gerrd invisible terpeders"

[Gruntdog_3]

5 minutes ago, NeutralState said:

Oh now people starting to want DDs. Before it's all "er mer gerrd invisible terpeders"

Maybe 'guerre'? Lol because I agree with you.

 

[Thornir]

DD is the toughest class to play well, I think. Well, CVs...ok, DDs are the toughest traditional class to play well. 

It requires selflessness, prescience, knowledge of what other ships can and can’t do, and inside out knowledge of their own ship. Offensive powerhouse one game, ultimate support platform the next  whatever the team needs.

I don’t think you can do all that and pursue mission objectives unrelated to the needs of your team. The required level of dedication is too much to ask I guess. 

[KillerCanadian]

Last night we had a sims trying to gun down and torp the red team from behind the BB line. Didn't work out to well. 

[Harv72b]

I just played a game with 5 DDs/side.  One of my teammates was a Gearing who survived to the end and maybe fired his guns 10 times.

[Harv72b]

40 minutes ago, Thornir said:

DD is the toughest class to play well, I think. Well, CVs...ok, DDs are the toughest traditional class to play well. 

It requires selflessness, prescience, knowledge of what other ships can and can’t do, and inside out knowledge of their own ship.

You forgot something:

Spoiler

 

[Canadatron]

Idiots per capita is much higher with BB, just due to population numbers alone. 

What's your point? Terrible players in all classes, this is not new.

[Thornir]

16 minutes ago, Harv72b said:

You forgot something:

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Yeah, ok. Fair point. 

 

Let's not presume that DDs have a lock on the "Low Risk, Low Reward" strat though, k?

When I look over my shoulder going into a cap, and see the radar cruiser outside radar range kiting and the BB trying to avoid paint blemishes, bow in, backing down and sniping from "5% hit land", well...

[sbcptnitro]

Missions bring out the worst. Me included. I found myself doing some stupid things just trying to complete a task and my stats show it.