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Musashi Final Form Commentary - She's a Must Buy now...

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Yes, yes...  we all now know about the issue with the Musashi and CCs.  I might be one of the few that doesn't really care.

Honestly, as CCs, we all have the chance to ask questions and gain information in our own CC discord chat.  The more we hang around or take part, the more we know.  I've never felt that we have been given a lack of info by WG.  Last minute changes have always happened.  In this case the XP wasn't a change even.   Someone ran with wrong unconfirmed info.  It's that simple.  But I digress.  

This video is merely my views on Musashi as she will be released and my belief that this iteration is worth it.  The one before wasn't.

 

 

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8 minutes ago, NoZoupForYou said:

Yes, yes...  we all now know about the issue with the Musashi and CCs.  I might be one of the few that doesn't really care.

Honestly, as CCs, we all have the chance to ask questions and gain information in our own CC discord chat.  The more we hang around or take part, the more we know.  I've never felt that we have been given a lack of info by WG.  Last minute changes have always happened.  In this case the XP wasn't a change even.   Someone ran with wrong unconfirmed info.  It's that simple.  But I digress.  

This video is merely my views on Musashi as she will be released and my belief that this iteration is worth it.  The one before wasn't.

 

 

 

Good grief.  They're not "work in progresses".  They're "works in progress".  :cap_book:

 

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So I'm still not clear, are people saying Musashi doesn't print credits because its credit-earning coefficient is lower than Missouri's, because it doesn't do as much damage, or both? And if it's the former, where does the coefficient fall compared to tech tree, T8 premium (say Tirpitz), and Missouri?

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22 minutes ago, NoZoupForYou said:

This video is merely my views on Musashi as she will be released and my belief that this iteration is worth it.  The one before wasn't.

Thanks Zoup, and BTW I did not get a chance to watch your twitch, how did go show the sister in law the game?

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Yeah, the only killer on the original configuration was the 35s reload with 1.8 sigma

Now that it has 30s reload and 1.8 sigma, it is more threatening.

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29 minutes ago, Crucis said:

 

Good grief.  They're not "work in progresses".  They're "works in progress".  :cap_book:

 

Sometimes we talk faster than our minds can keep up, now don’t we?

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13 minutes ago, Chaos_EN2 said:

Thanks Zoup, and BTW I did not get a chance to watch your twitch, how did go show the sister in law the game?

She sank a ship...  lol.  It really was a good highlight of how difficult it is for a straight up beginner.  And she had someone helping her!

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Not gonna bother with it if it doesn't make decent credits.  That's why I want the Missouri.  I am always running out of credits.  Plus, I can just stick my 17pt. Iowa captain into the Missouri.

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16 minutes ago, Edgecase said:

So I'm still not clear, are people saying Musashi doesn't print credits because its credit-earning coefficient is lower than Missouri's, because it doesn't do as much damage, or both? And if it's the former, where does the coefficient fall compared to tech tree, T8 premium (say Tirpitz), and Missouri?

LWM was heading up that research. I believe it’s the coefficient...  I think WG just had it too high for MO and learned from that.  This is hypothesizing though.

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1 minute ago, NoZoupForYou said:

She sank a ship...  lol.  It really was a good highlight of how difficult it is for a straight up beginner.  And she had someone helping her!

Cool, what was she using? At least she had (IMO) a good teacher, would love to seen it.

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14 minutes ago, jason199506 said:

you seem to not care about the huge sigma difference at all.....

No.  It needs to be that way.  If you take a Yammie exact clone into a T7 round bad things happen.  Very bad things.

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Just now, Chaos_EN2 said:

Cool, what was she using? At least she had (IMO) a good teacher, would love to seen it.

We stuck to T1 and T2 random battles.  Black swan but I think she got the kill in a T2 Chicuma.

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Just now, NoZoupForYou said:

We stuck to T1 and T2 random battles.  Black swan but I think she got the kill in a T2 Chicuma.

Uh Zoup? It's Chikuma. 

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4 minutes ago, NoZoupForYou said:

We stuck to T1 and T2 random battles.  Black swan but I think she got the kill in a T2 Chicuma.

Cool thanks for the info.

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8 minutes ago, _Maho_Nishizumi_212 said:

Uh Zoup? It's Chikuma. 

I’m typing on a phone with a mind of its own...  Siri loves the autocorrect 

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Just now, NoZoupForYou said:

I’m typing on a phone with a mind of its own...  Siri loves the autocorrect 

I know that one. It sucks.

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14 minutes ago, NoZoupForYou said:

No.  It needs to be that way.  If you take a Yammie exact clone into a T7 round bad things happen.  Very bad things.

It's just basically +/-3 MM all over again

The days when Colorado could see Yamato... Gone forev.....er HAVE RETURNED! 

RIP Colorado. 

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18 minutes ago, NoZoupForYou said:

LWM was heading up that research. I believe it’s the coefficient...  I think WG just had it too high for MO and learned from that.  This is hypothesizing though.

I don't know, but it seems to me that, except for wanting the Missouri for completeness or historicity or you want an Iowa class BB named Missouri, etc., what's the point of getting the Missouri unless it prints credits?  After all, you could get the Alabama for a whole lot less money (if you were buying the gold for free XP conversion) and probably have just as good a trainer.  Sure, I suppose that they could make a T9 premium into an awesome trainer if it had a large commander's XP bonus, rather than a high credits earning coefficient.  Regardless, it seems like, given either the real money cost or the extreme amount of free XP required to get it for free, tier 9 free XP premium ships need to have some sort of benefit that goes above and beyond those of otherwise regular premiums at tier 8 or below.

It just seems to me that a  big draw for the Missouri was its credit earning potential.  At least it was that way for me.

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25 minutes ago, jason199506 said:

you seem to not care about the huge sigma difference at all.....

2.1 to 1.8 is about a 17% difference.  It is significant but not so much that it is going to be useless and we are talking a Tier 9 ship here as opposed to a Tier 10 so it has got to have its damage toned down a bit in order to not be OP.  Think of it this way if a Yamato can average 95k damage which I think is about its global Average, then they Musashi will still be averaging 78k damage which compared to the global averages of Tier 9 BBs should be near the top.

 

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1 minute ago, Midnitewolf said:

2.1 to 1.8 is about a 17% difference.  It is significant but not so much that it is going to be useless and we are talking a Tier 9 ship here as opposed to a Tier 10 so it has got to have its damage toned down a bit in order to not be OP.  Think of it this way if a Yamato can average 95k damage which I think is about its global Average, then they Musashi will still be averaging 78k damage which compared to the global averages of Tier 9 BBs should be near the top.

 

first, is sigma linear?

then i get that musashi needs to be nerf to not be game-breaking-OP at T9, but i hate uncontrollable guns.....

i mean, izumo and fredrich are already driving me nuts with their 1.8 sigma, i'd honestly prefer 35sec/2.1 over 30sec/1.8

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10 minutes ago, Midnitewolf said:

2.1 to 1.8 is about a 17% difference.

Sigma is not linear as the current theory suggests it refers to bounds on a Normal curve. This comparison will be very misleading.

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