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Not an auspicious start to Ranked season. My first game and we had three afks, though finally one loaded about five minutes into the game and another about ten minutes in (one remained afk all game). The red team lost not a single player while our team lost every single one. I failed to score top on my team by a lousy four points and that was only because a DD got in his single torp hit of the entire game in the last three minutes and only a second before he was sunk.

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Well, the second game was better. However, I sort of forgot what <bleeps> Ranked players could be. Even though we were in the lead all game, there was one player who kept lambasting and cursing at everyone. I haven't seen that type of behavior in a long time. Even in the previous game with the three afks all the team did was essentially sigh and die.

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Someone advised me to wait a week to start ranked once. This allows the initial rush of what you're seeing to do there thing and then it gets better. There should be a penalty for an AFK longer than 5 minutes in Ranked. You can re-boot your computer if you have to and get back in in that time-frame.

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I think the combination of Ranked and the holiday bring out more players who haven't recently played much or at all, until today.  My theory is players in that category in general tend to experience a higher rate of problems stemming from software, inferior hardware or connection/ISP performance. 

They may also potentially not be as focused or concerned with doing more than having a bit of fun in the midst of everything else going in their lives around Christmas - they're distracted and more easily pulled away. 

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1 minute ago, Seadog_Supreme said:

Someone advised me to wait a week to start ranked once. This allows the initial rush of what you're seeing to do there thing and then it gets better. There should be a penalty for an AFK longer than 5 minutes in Ranked. You can re-boot your computer if you have to and get back in in that time-frame.

 

I find the opposite. Best get the longest fastest ride on the earliest waves of the day.

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Not so sure player base will be so good over the holidays.  Had 1 random match today.  Loss. THREE of our BBs headed off waaaay South away from our Northern push to chase after ONE damn DD who got in our rear and then led them far away from the battle....far away...as these nuts chased him in BBs. Just took themselves out of the game and the red team just merrily grabbed all the caps with little difficulty.  It was unreal.  I had to laugh.

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I forgot to run a Juliet Charlie on my Akizuki in MY FIRST GAME of Ranked, and WG blessed me with a detonation. insult to injury: the shell was the only one the Hsienyang landed, and I was absolutely crushing that ship. We lost, so I already fell to rank 17.

This doesn't bode well.

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20 minutes ago, Seadog_Supreme said:

Someone advised me to wait a week to start ranked once. This allows the initial rush of what you're seeing to do there thing and then it gets better. There should be a penalty for an AFK longer than 5 minutes in Ranked. You can re-boot your computer if you have to and get back in in that time-frame.

Early starts, better players will move on faster.  They'll get into the upper leagues sooner.  What you're left with later in Ranked are the ones that can't get anywhere.  It's race to not be left with those guys.

 

Either way, you will be playing with elite players who are harder to compete against, or you're playing with far worse off players who you have to carry a harder burden for.  Take your pick.

 

Personally, I am 99.9% sure I'm not Ranking out.  But I'm doing so for the experience of it.  It's certainly not going to be any less saltier than Randoms.

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lots of lo yangs, Bismarck’s, Tirpitz, ncs and the poor one cruiser on each team.

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Just now, gmrbull said:

lots of lo yangs, Bismarck’s, Tirpitz, ncs and the poor one cruiser on each team.

Pretty much. 

 

This is Lo Yang's time to shine.  A good time for a DD, really.

1.  No Tier IX Z-46 or TIer X Z-52 to out-hydro Lo Yang.

2.  No Tier IX Black with Radar.

3.  CVs are relatively uncommon.

4.  Cruisers are uncommon in Ranked, it's a BB-DD affair, so the chances of Radar-capable NOLA, Chapayev, or even the non-smoke-but-radar-fitted Edinburgh, are low.

 

It's so far being decided by who's BBs aren't dumb to get killed early and who's DDs are best.  The latter sets the stage for success above all else.

 

Bismarck is the most played ship in the game so expect to see her a lot.

 

Seen a few Lexingtons and Shokaku, no Big-E or Graf Zepps yet.

 

Day 1 stuff though, so anything can happen still.

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It's been frustrating for me thus far.  I won my first battle, in a rather lackluster effort in my Alabama, though the rest of the team was fairly good, and we rolled the enemy team.  Then I've fought 3 battles in my Kidd, and have 3 solid games in a row with good damage and capping and leading the team in XP, usually by a wide margin, and I get 3 teams of crapper BBs that seem to make every BB mistake in the book.  So after 4 battles, I've gained 1 star and had 3 no-lost-star losses.  Oh joy.

I can play BBs to try to give the team at least one pretty good BB player, but then I risk being on a team with crapper DDs.  Or I can keep playing my Kidd (or some other DD) and hope to eventually get a win.  Sigh.  :Smile_sceptic:

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2 hours ago, HazeGrayUnderway said:

Pretty much. 

 

This is Lo Yang's time to shine.  A good time for a DD, really.

1.  No Tier IX Z-46 or TIer X Z-52 to out-hydro Lo Yang.

2.  No Tier IX Black with Radar.

3.  CVs are relatively uncommon.

4.  Cruisers are uncommon in Ranked, it's a BB-DD affair, so the chances of Radar-capable NOLA, Chapayev, or even the non-smoke-but-radar-fitted Edinburgh, are low.

 

It's so far being decided by who's BBs aren't dumb to get killed early and who's DDs are best.  The latter sets the stage for success above all else.

 

Bismarck is the most played ship in the game so expect to see her a lot.

 

Seen a few Lexingtons and Shokaku, no Big-E or Graf Zepps yet.

 

Day 1 stuff though, so anything can happen still.

Haze, I've avoided any carriers, though to be fair, I've usually bailed out of the queue if I saw carriers in it.  :Smile_hiding:

I mean, sure, my Kidd could kill plenty of planes, though it's not a hardcore AA build.  But the enemy CV player might just say, oh it's a Kidd, let's avoid him and go after the other stuff.  And then I suppose I could escort the BBs, but that would completely neutralize all of the other useful things a good DD players should be doing.  So, I think I'd rather avoid the CVs entirely if I can.

As for BB's, I've seen pretty much all tier 8 BBs thus far.  I can't think of one I haven't seen.  Seen the Bama and NC, the Monarch, the Tirp and Biz, and the Amagi and Kii.  I will say that the most common ones seem to be the Bama and the 2 German ones.

I agree that it's a good time for DD's since there are only 3 possible radar cruisers, the New Orleans, the Edinborough, and the Chapeyev.  And the Edinborough would have to give up his smoke to take radar, which seems unlikely.  I was in one battle where the enemy team had a New Orleans who was a total noob.  I mean, TOTAL NOOB.  On the Neighbors map, his team went to B, and this NOOB sailed right in the open towards A and got completely wasted in no time flat.  Sadly, our team's BBs weren't anything special themselves, and I ended up with one of my 3 no-star-losses in my Kidd.

 

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23 minutes ago, Crucis said:

Haze, I've avoided any carriers, though to be fair, I've usually bailed out of the queue if I saw carriers in it.  :Smile_hiding:

I mean, sure, my Kidd could kill plenty of planes, though it's not a hardcore AA build.  But the enemy CV player might just say, oh it's a Kidd, let's avoid him and go after the other stuff.  And then I suppose I could escort the BBs, but that would completely neutralize all of the other useful things a good DD players should be doing.  So, I think I'd rather avoid the CVs entirely if I can.

As for BB's, I've seen pretty much all tier 8 BBs thus far.  I can't think of one I haven't seen.  Seen the Bama and NC, the Monarch, the Tirp and Biz, and the Amagi and Kii.  I will say that the most common ones seem to be the Bama and the 2 German ones.

I agree that it's a good time for DD's since there are only 3 possible radar cruisers, the New Orleans, the Edinborough, and the Chapeyev.  And the Edinborough would have to give up his smoke to take radar, which seems unlikely.  I was in one battle where the enemy team had a New Orleans who was a total noob.  I mean, TOTAL NOOB.  On the Neighbors map, his team went to B, and this NOOB sailed right in the open towards A and got completely wasted in no time flat.  Sadly, our team's BBs weren't anything special themselves, and I ended up with one of my 3 no-star-losses in my Kidd.

 

I haven't avoided the CVs, I embrace it because I'm curious to see how it unfolds with them squaring off with each other due to many changes, additions to CV lines and gameplay this year.  I've been impressed so far with Shokaku and Enterprise.  Haven't seen any Graf Zeppelins yet.

 

Shokaku is gonna Shokaku, one of the most consistent CVs for ages.  Haven't seen an AS Shokaku yet though, 2/2/2 is all I've seen.

Enterprise, they do it all like Shokaku.

Lexington... Well... "Momma said if you got nothing nice to say, don't say it at all."  On to the next point then, I guess.

As someone that has only played BB & Cruiser in Ranked this season, I really appreciate the minimum of 2 fighter units in the air by Shokaku and Enterprise, while still sporting bombers.  I appreciate they got fighter presence up to varying degrees almost all the time, unlike 1 fighter unit Lexington.  Enterprise CVs have been very aggressive with their fighters and that pool of fighter reserves.

 

For the BBs, I've seen them all at least once today but Monarch.  I haven't seen one Monarch in Ranked yet.  Kii was rare, seen her only once.  Everyone else, a bunch of times.  I was astonished to see the amount of Alabamas in game.  Seen more of them today than in the past few weeks put together.  A lot of guys must have bought her up or got her from the boxes.

 

But DDs, they set the tone.  Oh, one of your DDs just died in the first few minutes.  There's another one.:Smile_sceptic:  Now the enemy DDs are roaming free.  Seen a lot of Benson, Kagero, Kidd.  HSF Harekaze, Hsienyang have been super rare.  Lo Yangs have been uncommon but the ones I've seen make their presence felt.  Been trying to play Hydro+Radar New Orleans to help in the anti-DD effort, but that makes for very tense gaming using her.  Kutuzovs that "stick to their game" are menacing.

 

Curious to see what Warships Today's Ranked stat pulls will say tomorrow.

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3 hours ago, TheBlackWind said:

Get some thicker skin. Or think of a wisecrack to say back ;)  

Put Duct Tape over the chat box.

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3 hours ago, lemekillmister said:

 

I find the opposite. Best get the longest fastest ride on the earliest waves of the day.

I agree. I won’t play Ranked after 10pm EST. And one season I started on the middle, all of the good players were gone. It was agony. 

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Did one earlier in Tirpitz for lols. Full secondary build and 19-pointer.

 

We crushed the enemy team. Fair amount of waiting, but I came in 2nd top of all 1350 or so in base XP with 2 or 3 kills, including one of their DDs falling to my secondaries. Easiest match ever!

 

I'll be doing more tomorrow. Cruisers actually have an easier time if the BBs move out to engage their counterparts while the cruisers keep dodging incoming fire, just FYI. There is no point just camping, be the bait.

 

35 minutes ago, HazeGrayUnderway said:

I haven't avoided the CVs, I embrace it because I'm curious to see how it unfolds with them squaring off with each other due to many changes, additions to CV lines and gameplay this year.  I've been impressed so far with Shokaku and Enterprise.  Haven't seen any Graf Zeppelins yet.

 

Shokaku is gonna Shokaku, one of the most consistent CVs for ages.  Haven't seen an AS Shokaku yet though, 2/2/2 is all I've seen.

Enterprise, they do it all like Shokaku.

Lexington... Well... "Momma said if you got nothing nice to say, don't say it at all."  On to the next point then, I guess.

As someone that has only played BB & Cruiser in Ranked this season, I really appreciate the minimum of 2 fighter units in the air by Shokaku and Enterprise, while still sporting bombers.  I appreciate they got fighter presence up to varying degrees almost all the time, unlike 1 fighter unit Lexington.  Enterprise CVs have been very aggressive with their fighters and that pool of fighter reserves.

 

For the BBs, I've seen them all at least once today but Monarch.  I haven't seen one Monarch in Ranked yet.  Kii was rare, seen her only once.  Everyone else, a bunch of times.  I was astonished to see the amount of Alabamas in game.  Seen more of them today than in the past few weeks put together.  A lot of guys must have bought her up or got her from the boxes.

 

But DDs, they set the tone.  Oh, one of your DDs just died in the first few minutes.  There's another one.:Smile_sceptic:  Now the enemy DDs are roaming free.  Seen a lot of Benson, Kagero, Kidd.  HSF Harekaze, Hsienyang have been super rare.  Lo Yangs have been uncommon but the ones I've seen make their presence felt.  Been trying to play Hydro+Radar New Orleans to help in the anti-DD effort, but that makes for very tense gaming using her.  Kutuzovs that "stick to their game" are menacing.

 

Curious to see what Warships Today's Ranked stat pulls will say tomorrow.

Exactly the correct attitude. The CV will be careful what he commits to, so the idea is coordinate and hit hard and fast--take out key reds like their radar cruiser or failing that, the DDs. As long as within 4km of AA cover, you should be largely alright vs. anything but an all-out sortie.

 

I don't see any validity to playing Ranked and at same time running away from facing CVs. Hardest game mode available, so accept anything and everything, including facing ships or ship classes you don't want to.

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54 minutes ago, Soshi_Sone said:

Put Duct Tape over the chat box.

Now, that's no way to treat your monitor!  What has it ever done to you?  :Smile_teethhappy:

 

29 minutes ago, Reymu said:

 

 

I don't see any validity to playing Ranked and at same time running away from facing CVs. Hardest game mode available, so accept anything and everything, including facing ships or ship classes you don't want to.

Have to disagree.  (And it's a ship TYPE, not a ship class.  Will you people ever learn?)

If I have the choice to bail on the queue if I see carriers, then I have every right to do so.

 

And I'm doing it DDs because I don't want to spend an entire battle being neutralized by some GD planes sitting overhead (though my Kidd would make them pay quite a bit to try do so).

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5 hours ago, Crucis said:

It's been frustrating for me thus far.  I won my first battle, in a rather lackluster effort in my Alabama, though the rest of the team was fairly good, and we rolled the enemy team.  Then I've fought 3 battles in my Kidd, and have 3 solid games in a row with good damage and capping and leading the team in XP, usually by a wide margin, and I get 3 teams of crapper BBs that seem to make every BB mistake in the book.  So after 4 battles, I've gained 1 star and had 3 no-lost-star losses.  Oh joy.

I can play BBs to try to give the team at least one pretty good BB player, but then I risk being on a team with crapper DDs.  Or I can keep playing my Kidd (or some other DD) and hope to eventually get a win.  Sigh.  :Smile_sceptic:

Quoting myself... not a good sign.  :Smile_hiding:

Was just in a battle with this loud mouth on our team who was whining at me and a Bismarck on our team because we weren't over with him behind B cap on Trident "tanking damage".  The idiot was just bow tanking and playing the pin cushion.  I, on the other hand, was maneuvering and angling my ship, bouncing shots while hammering the enemy.  He really starting yelling at me and the Biz when we had to temporarily disengage because we had 2 choices... temp disengage and loop around an island or make a hard U turn right in front of the enemy's guns, exposing our broadsides (me, in particular, since I didn't have the Biz's turtleback armor to protect me).  So we temporarily disengaged and looped around this small island, protecting our selves, and then we came back hard into the ENEMY'S side, where I started really hammering them for some seriously heavy damage.  Of course, this mouthy ... jerk ... was calling me every name in the book (well, to be fair, a bunch of clean insults, i.e. potato, etc.). 

So, let's look at the final team results.  Mr Mouth ended up in last place with 1006 base XP and 0 kills, while I ended up in 3rd place with 1635 base XP, 106k damage, 3 kills, and a High Caliber award.  And I was nearly 500 base XP ahead of the next highest scoring BB on the team.  Seems to me that it's pretty obvious who was the potato and who know what he was doing.

 

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Uneven first day, trying various ships to see what performs.  Took Tirp and Alabama out, good games, but both loses.  Couple games in the Chappie, radar pretty powerful, Atago very strong, Akizuki had a monster game, then not so much.  Was not impressed with my Kag.  Will try the Kut  and LoYang later.  So far like tier 8 ranked

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8 hours ago, Soshi_Sone said:

Put Duct Tape over the chat box.

But that makes your screen so ugly! Otherwise, an excellent solution.

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10 hours ago, Soshi_Sone said:

Put Duct Tape over the chat box.

When the former director of the FBI was asked about how to best secure  a laptop's webcam against hacking, he said that his cybertech teams just advised him to put a piece of tape over the lens. 

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3 hours ago, Admiral_Thrawn_1 said:

What happened to Wargaming waiting until 2018 for Ranked like they said they would be doing???

Nobody wants to fight you in Ranked. Thrawn is known for a high win rate in his stories.

 

Or maybe the playerbase hasn't figured out that since you can't see their artwork, you can't predict how they will think.

13 hours ago, Crucis said:

Have to disagree.  (And it's a ship TYPE, not a ship class.  Will you people ever learn?)

If I have the choice to bail on the queue if I see carriers, then I have every right to do so.

 

And I'm doing it DDs because I don't want to spend an entire battle being neutralized by some GD planes sitting overhead (though my Kidd would make them pay quite a bit to try do so).

So you're content to be a wimp in that aspect, got it. Suit yourself or bring the bullying Kidd--though I was under the impression Lo Yang, Z-23, then Benson are best for ranked in that order as the IJN DDs require a lot more enemy prediction to use torps effectively.

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