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Which of the RU and KM CAs are real?

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RU: T2, T3, T4, T5

KM: T2, T3, T4, T5, T6, T8

These were all built in steel and served.

<Edit> RU T8 Chapayev was also real.

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1 minute ago, Lert said:

RU: T2, T3, T4, T5

KM: T2, T3, T4, T5, T6, T8

These were all built in steel and served.

Thought the Kutozov sailed?

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Just now, IronWolfV said:

Thought the Kutozov sailed?

Right, right. That's a prem though.

But the RU T8 Chapayev was also real, you're right to remind me of that.

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1 minute ago, Lert said:

Right, right. That's a prem though.

But the RU T8 Chapayev was also real, you're right to remind me of that.

I thought so. I know T9 and 10 were planned but never were built.

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Moskva was under construction iirc, I know her guns were built and tested.

 

Admiral Graf Spee and Emden are also real OP, as well as Molotov.

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12 minutes ago, IronWolfV said:

Thought the Kutozov sailed?

Yes, albeit in the 1950s.  I know her better from Harpoon and Command as the Sverdlov class.

 

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1 minute ago, mavfin87 said:

Yes, albeit in the 1950s.  I know her better from Harpoon and Command as the Sverdlov class.

 

She still sailed and served.

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I'm not certain if the Dmitri Donkeyski (Russian T9) is a real design. Never heard of it. I believe the other non-built ones (T6, T7, T10) are all based on real designs though.

 

German T9 and T10 are fictional while the T7 is based on a design the Germans considered prior to the Deutschland class cruisers/"pocket battleships".

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VMF's Project 94 (Budyonny) & Project 65 (Dmitri Donskoy) were draft design studies. The former was the most stranger to the rest as it was hardly known in the Russian literatures, while the latter was at least known & has over 40 design variations for research & study purposes.

Other than that, Pr. 28 (Shchors) & Pr. 66 (Moskva) were real designs, but couldn't get to lay down. For Shchors, it was scrapped in favor of Chapayev due to inferior design. For Moskva, it was meant to supplement & compliment with Stalingrads, but too expensive to build as Pr. 66 cost three times of the building cost of Pr. 68bis Sverdlov.

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1 hour ago, Xero_Snake said:

VMF's Project 94 (Budyonny) & Project 65 (Dmitri Donskoy) were draft design studies. The former was the most stranger to the rest as it was hardly known in the Russian literatures, while the latter was at least known & has over 40 design variations for research & study purposes.

Other than that, Pr. 28 (Shchors) & Pr. 66 (Moskva) were real designs, but couldn't get to lay down. For Shchors, it was scrapped in favor of Chapayev due to inferior design. For Moskva, it was meant to supplement & compliment with Stalingrads, but too expensive to build as Pr. 66 cost three times of the building cost of Pr. 68bis Sverdlov.

Any more details on Pr. 65? It's a rather unusual ship for sure, what's with the huge superstructure? 

 

I thought Pr. 66 was rejected in favor of the larger more capable Stalingrads, not intended to supplement them.

 

To me Budyonny looks like a design from the same time period as the Pr. 28 and Chapayev. Was it possibly intended to be an alternative of lighter displacement?

 

 

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German T IX & X are outright fakes (the IX not even being a sensible one). 

The rest are either design studies or built ships, as noted above. 

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You just need to look at the carousel. If you hover over a ship it’s description will pop up. If the ship was built and commissioned it will show the year it entered service and the number built. Otherwise it shows year of design. 

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11 minutes ago, FrodoFraggin said:

With the release of the Makarov, I wonder if we'll see the Hipper class cruiser sold to Russia as a premium.

I would like to see the american prinz eugen

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2 hours ago, RiverTheIdiot said:

I would like to see the american prinz eugen

I was a nuclear bomb target?

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Just now, mavfin87 said:

I was a nuclear bomb target?

Yes but i think its served for couple months considering it hard its own call sign

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2 hours ago, RiverTheIdiot said:

I would like to see the american prinz eugen

Yes, and the Soviet Lutzow.

 

[edit] Both as completed, operational ships.  Should probably have specified this earlier, but playing a barely-mobile hulk with four guns would not be much fun.

 

Aaand now of course I see that we were discussing Lutzow all the darn time.  Oopsblep.[/edit]

 

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10 hours ago, FrodoFraggin said:

With the release of the Makarov, I wonder if we'll see the Hipper class cruiser sold to Russia as a premium.

That would be Lutzow. First renamed as Petropavlovsk, later renamed as Tallinn after raised from sinking.

After the WWII, they even proposed Project 83 to complete Tallinn by replacing 20.3cm guns with 152mm guns & fitted with postwar AA guns & a radar.

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On 12/21/2017 at 6:04 PM, Lert said:

RU: T2, T3, T4, T5

KM: T2, T3, T4, T5, T6, T8

These were all built in steel and served.

<Edit> RU T8 Chapayev was also real.

It's too bad that the Soviet line has twice as much paper as it actually needed to. Could've easily been T6 Maxim Gorky or Kalinin, T7 Chapayev, T8 Sverdlov.

12 hours ago, Xero_Snake said:

That would be Lutzow. First renamed as Petropavlovsk, later renamed as Tallinn after raised from sinking.

After the WWII, they even proposed Project 83 to complete Tallinn by replacing 20.3cm guns with 152mm guns & fitted with postwar AA guns & a radar.

The 152mm would definitely make for a more interesting premium. With the German 203s she'd be little more than a reflagged Prinz Eugen (since Lutzow was from the same slightly-modified Hipper design) and the last thing we need is a clone of a clone.

But either way with Kutuzov permanently removed from sale, Tallin would be the best option to replace her in the shop.

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