Finally Tried a CV

[KalishniKat]

Picked up a Bogue, ran it in a few co-op games. Did ok but really disliked the overall mecahnic and look of the game. So now my dislike of CVs is a more educated hatred.

[IronWolfV]

 

[VTAdmiral]

So now you know it's not as easy as you've been claiming it is for the past 8 months.

 

After playing what is currently the most overpowered tier 5 or lower carrier, no less.

[HazeGrayUnderway]

Hey, he played Bogue.  He's an Expert now.

[VTAdmiral]

1 minute ago, HazeGrayUnderway said:

Hey, he played Bogue.  He's an Expert now.

Hey now

 

Every time he's complained that carriers are unstoppable sky gods who decide who lives and who dies on a whim, or kills everything with no effort, I've challenged him to play them and prove it.

 

He's finally played them. He can't prove it. And I suspect will continue with the accusations anyway.

[HazeGrayUnderway]

Just now, AraAragami said:

Hey now

 

Every time he's complained that carriers are unstoppable sky gods who decide who lives and who dies on their flimsy whim, I've challenged him to play them and prove it.

 

He's finally played them. He can't prove it. And I suspect will continue with the accusations anyway.

The test though starts at Tier VI when Manual comes to play and the AA starts increasing.  The joy of having a Tier VI CV facing off with the likes of Atlanta, Cleveland, NC, Alabama, now Kii.  Cleveland is a fun one.  She's only one of the most played ships in the game 

[VTAdmiral]

1 minute ago, HazeGrayUnderway said:

The test though starts at Tier VI when Manual comes to play and the AA starts increasing.  The joy of having a Tier VI CV facing off with the likes of Atlanta, Cleveland, NC, Alabama, now Kii.  Cleveland is a fun one.  She's only one of the most played ships in the game 

But that would require effort, and any BB main who whines about everything that can damage him typically can't be bothered.

 

(I say this with Hiryu and Ranger in my port, though I don't play them much due to Saipan and Kaga)

[Kitsunelegend]

1 minute ago, AraAragami said:

Hey now

 

Every time he's complained that carriers are unstoppable sky gods who decide who lives and who dies on a whim, or kills everything with no effort, I've challenged him to play them and prove it.

 

He's finally played them. He can't prove it. And I suspect will continue with the accusations anyway.

Well, to be fair, hes only half right... Some players do make it look that easy... *looks at @Femennenly with extreme nervousness* >.>;

[anonym_Hf93Jbjm9WjT]

17 minutes ago, KalishniKat said:

Picked up a Bogue, ran it in a few co-op games. Did ok but really disliked the overall mecahnic and look of the game. So now my dislike of CVs is a more educated hatred.

In one year's time, I'm betting we see you in a Midway.

[IronWolfV]

 

6 minutes ago, HazeGrayUnderway said:

Hey, he played Bogue.  He's an Expert now.

Does that mean if I play my Enterprise I'm like 1 step short of being a god? If so:

I wanna look like ^

[DDJohnston]

 

1 minute ago, AraAragami said:

But that would require effort, and any BB main who whines about everything that can damage him typically can't be bothered.

I posted in another thread an experience I had with Bama.  Got triple dropped and got sunk.  However, I killed the equivalent of one of the three groups in the process.  Also, he had to commit all three squadrons to me for that time.  It all balances out.  If he had single-dropped me I'd have gotten to laugh at him.

 

[VTAdmiral]

1 minute ago, mavfin87 said:

I posted in another thread an experience I had with Bama.  Got triple dropped and got sunk.  However, I killed the equivalent of one of the three groups in the process.  Also, he had to commit all three squadrons to me for that time.  It all balances out.  If he had single-dropped me I'd have gotten to laugh at him.

By a Bogue? Or an Independence? Because those are what we're talking about.

[IronWolfV]

1 minute ago, AraAragami said:

By a Bogue? Or an Independence? Because those are what we're talking about.

Hated the Bogue, but that was before the changes. Haven't tried Indy yet. And I can scout OKish with Enterprise but don't ask me to rack up a lot of damage.

My personal issue with CVs is that I can't micromanage for s**t.

[VTAdmiral]

2 minutes ago, IronWolfV said:

Hated the Bogue, but that was before the changes. Haven't tried Indy yet. And I can scout OKish with Enterprise but don't ask me to rack up a lot of damage.

My personal issue with CVs is that I can't micromanage for s**t.

20 years of experience with casual Starcraft, Total Annihilation, and Supreme Commander helps. Though I'm no expert here either.

[IronWolfV]

1 minute ago, AraAragami said:

20 years of experience with casual Starcraft, Total Annihilation, and Supreme Commander helps. Though I'm no expert here either.

Played Starcraft some along with both Starfleet commands and I hope to try out BSG Deadlock.  But none of those games are near as real-time as carriers. I just can't keep up.

[DDJohnston]

9 minutes ago, AraAragami said:

By a Bogue? Or an Independence? Because those are what we're talking about.

Nah, I suspect it was a Sho or a Hak.  I was just on the subject of CVs and godliness.  Even Bogue doesn't like to mess with Texas, especially if configured for AA.

[VTAdmiral]

Just now, mavfin87 said:

Nah, I suspect it was a Sho or a Hak.  I was just on the subject of CVs and godliness.  Even Bogue doesn't like to mess with Texas, especially if configured for AA.

Point: Missed. Whatever, I guess.

3 minutes ago, IronWolfV said:

Played Starcraft some along with both Starfleet commands and I hope to try out BSG Deadlock.  But none of those games are near as real-time as carriers. I just can't keep up.

Total Annihilation's aircraft are the closest thing to carrier aircraft controls, though they actually also have a basic AI and can be given commands like 'Go defend this area' where they will patrol and actively pursue enemy units that enter their vision radius.

 

Introducing some automation to aircraft behavior could be a way to reduce micro. So could squadron normalization. But bring either of those up around unicums who can do all the micro and they get super offended about anything that helps less skilled players get anywhere close to their own ability in the status quo.

[KalishniKat]

Not claiming expert or even novice status, just saying I dislike the CV games....it's a different game than regular WOWS and not a very good one either. It's too removed from the actual battle....so I stand by my opinion that CV jockeys just enjoy being removed from the main gameplay and crapping on other players. I even sank a Cesare and found in neither fun nor engaging.

[IronWolfV]

1 minute ago, AraAragami said:

Point: Missed. Whatever, I guess.

Total Annihilation's aircraft are the closest thing to carrier aircraft controls, though they actually also have a basic AI and can be given commands like 'Go defend this area' where they will patrol and actively pursue enemy units that enter their vision radius.

 

Introducing some automation to aircraft behavior could be a way to reduce micro. So could squadron normalization. But bring either of those up around unicums who can do all the micro and they get super offended about anything that helps less skilled players get anywhere close to their own ability in the status quo.

That and I think auto dropping should be more like Hero's over the Pacific. Where you have to keep your planes at a specific speed or altitude for torpedo dropping and the more AA and fighter attacks, harder it is to keep TBs in the sweet spot. DBs same deal as you have a specific altitude to drop, too high or too low bigger chance to whiff. Get too low, go around and try again.

[Ghostdog1355]

One rule of thumb in this game about CVs I've learned. Never talk crap about a guy that can sail a ship, dodge DDs and cruisers and direct squadrons against other ships/squadrons. Even if he's bad at it. I have trouble getting the freaking turrets to turn in the right direction and put out fires at the same time on my BB

[ObiphanKenobi]

57 minutes ago, nuttybiscuit said:

In one year's time, I'm betting we see you in a Midway.

sure I don't want to be in game with ....... this will be a typical CV driver who will skillfully ruin the game of the other 11 (23) players per game

[StoneRhino]

51 minutes ago, KalishniKat said:

Not claiming expert or even novice status, just saying I dislike the CV games....it's a different game than regular WOWS and not a very good one either. It's too removed from the actual battle....so I stand by my opinion that CV jockeys just enjoy being removed from the main gameplay and crapping on other players. I even sank a Cesare and found in neither fun nor engaging.

The trick is to actively attack high AA ships. It's the one thing they never expect. 

[CaptGodzillaPig]

1 hour ago, KalishniKat said:

Picked up a Bogue, ran it in a few co-op games. Did ok but really disliked the overall mecahnic and look of the game. So now my dislike of CVs is a more educated hatred.

I messed around with them (CV) in pub test and a bit in co op.  I agree I do not like the mechanics.  But I did have some fun in them..especially in a few scenario games. 

[CaptNautiguy]

I Just got back into CV's and am playing the Langley and Bogue.  I got out of it due to the frustration of having great battles and losing.  LOL.   And here's some examples of why i should have just not picked up cv's again.

Langley - High Caliber and Confederate, 143k damage, 3 kills = loss.

 

Bogue - Confederate, Kraken, 86k damage = Loss  (how the hell do you get a kraken and lose?)  lol

 

CV play is just so FRUSTRATING.  I think the thing that upsets me the most is when the other cv player(s) suck and get the win.  

[Madwolf05]

Potatoes refuse to let you carry them against all odds.