CO-OP screwed again

[jimpat2]

wow u can win a ship....wait.  you have to buy the ship that u will win or play random.  what happened to co-op players?  SCREWED AGAIN!

[Fuyukaze]

i'm sorry what...?

[RedSeaBear]

[MajorEnglush]

Um...wut?

[Taylor3006]

He is talking about the DoY campaign, have to do it in PvP. It really does suck for those of us who abhor random battles. My suggestion to fellow PvE players is to just grit your teeth and play PvP. Stay on mission, don't worry about anything other than what that particular mission is. I unlocked the final task of the first mission by using a cruiser to smack around battleships. I ignored everyone else and just focused on them. It wasn't great team work or the like but I managed to complete all the requirements twice in just a few hours. Don't worry about your stats, winning, or anything else, just stay on mission and get it done. You will get lots of hate and probably lose some karma but it is the way I finished the Yamamoto and Honors campaign. Repeat the easy tasks and like I said STAY ON MISSION at all costs. The upside to playing PvP is you get as much xp on a full potato loss than you would in a great game of Co-op and they just toss credits at you like a drunken sailor at a strip club. The good thing about the first leg is playing aggressively in a cruiser is kind of unheard of in random battles. The battleships will make for you like a fat kid going after a pie so you can farm damage quite easily. 

[injunmick]

26 minutes ago, Fuyukaze said:

i'm sorry what...?

Stop with the condescending already, it's tacky.

[Fuyukaze]

1 minute ago, injunmick said:

Stop with the condescending already, it's tacky.

No idea where you got that from since its a legitimate response, how else is someone supposed to express confusion over a topic that has no context?

Am i supposed to go full on Queens and write "I'm sorry good sir but i fear i do not understand what you are talking about so could you elaborate further"? 

[IronWolfV]

35 minutes ago, jimpat2 said:

wow u can win a ship....wait.  you have to buy the ship that u will win or play random.  what happened to co-op players?  SCREWED AGAIN!

[Goodwood_Alpha]

For the love of...

Seriously, the OP really isn't difficult to understand at all, especially if you've taken a look at the campaigns and missions themselves. The Raider campaign at least has one task per mission (in addition to the final tasks) that are doable in co-op, but the North Cape one doesn't have any. At least with the Spee, you could earn her by repeating co-op tasks.

In a way I can understand the change, given that DoY is a battleship and a tier higher, but she isn't that good of a battleship anyway.

[HazardDrake]

OP is raging about being held in a prison. Meanwhile, we're all wondering when they will notice that all the doors are unlocked. 

 

Hint: it's two clicks to play PvP. I know, you'll have to play using both hands and you'll have to put up with not having a 96% winrate. Life isn't fair.

[injunmick]

23 minutes ago, Fuyukaze said:

No idea where you got that from since its a legitimate response, how else is someone supposed to express confusion over a topic that has no context?

Am i supposed to go full on Queens and write "I'm sorry good sir but i fear i do not understand what you are talking about so could you elaborate further"? 

Title says it all. Need more? Many play only coop. Just had a mission lately that included all aspects of the game. Now this. I see you.

[injunmick]

22 minutes ago, IronWolfV said:

What, you need a book to explain it to you?

[Captain_Dorja]

If you choose to purposefully be part of what will always be a minority niche, don't be shocked when you get overlooked.

It might even be happening on purpose. Other content in the game is exclusive to people who completed missions in specific modes. I think there is less of a chance that PvE players are being "accidentally screwed" and are being purposefully encouraged to play the main game.

[Captain_Dorja]

1 minute ago, injunmick said:

What, you need a book to explain it to you?

I think you need to calm down dude. You're more worked up than the guy who made the thread.

[Kizarvexis]

9 minutes ago, HazardDrake said:

OP is raging about being held in a prison. Meanwhile, we're all wondering when they will notice that all the doors are unlocked. 

 

Hint: it's two clicks to play PvP. I know, you'll have to play using both hands and you'll have to put up with not having a 96% winrate. Life isn't fair.

 

Yeah, I've found I don't like the meta in PvP (I tend to be too aggressive) and if you don't win, some people really lose their s***. 

 

So by not putting in a single co-op task that we could repeat, you will get players who are not versed in PvP. We (PvE mains) would take a one star task and you could even make it a little harder than the PvP tasks. I'm playing some T8 PvP for the Yamamoto campaign (another one with no PvE options), so if you see me in game and think I'm not playing well enough, too bad.  

[injunmick]

2 minutes ago, Captain_Dorja said:

I think you need to calm down dude. You're more worked up than the guy who made the thread.

Well, it upsets me when people condescend on others way of simple gaming, etc.. People say, it's just a game, well then let them have a choice in it. They wanna PvE, good for them, and there are a lot of them, don't make it OK for PvP to think they are better and make crap statements on them.

[Fuyukaze]

12 minutes ago, injunmick said:

Title says it all. Need more? Many play only coop. Just had a mission lately that included all aspects of the game. Now this. I see you.

 

The title merely mentions of coop(players) being screwed which is nothing more than a rant which makes me still stand by the point that it lacks context and requires inference to get the gist of the message.

And no. Regardless of how many players do play coop, it is nothing more than the icing on top of the cake since Randoms is still the homestay of the game.  Its all fine if players want to restrict their fun to coop but don't come out complaining that one feels left out because of their choice. 

[Taylor3006]

1 minute ago, Fuyukaze said:

The title merely mentions of coop(players) being screwed which is nothing more than a rant which makes me still stand by the point that it lacks context and requires inference to get the gist of the message.

And no. Regardless of how many players do play coop, it is nothing more than the icing on top of the cake since Randoms is still the homestay of the game.  Its all fine if players want to restrict their fun to coop but don't come out complaining that one feels left out because of their choice. 

Ehh wasn't hard to figure out IMHO. 

PvP is more popular, it is boring and takes way too long but more players participate in it. Some of us just don't like it and if PvE was not an option, would leave the game altogether. If you don't care for complaining, why the hell would you come into a complaint thread and complain about someone complaining? Really kind of pitiful. 

[yashma]

"Yashma felt a great overreaction. He tore his eyes from his head and threw them into the forest."

[Kizarvexis]

3 minutes ago, Fuyukaze said:

 

The title merely mentions of coop(players) being screwed which is nothing more than a rant which makes me still stand by the point that it lacks context and requires inference to get the gist of the message.

And no. Regardless of how many players do play coop, it is nothing more than the icing on top of the cake since Randoms is still the homestay of the game.  Its all fine if players want to restrict their fun to coop but don't come out complaining that one feels left out because of their choice. 

 

But how hard would it be to put ONE task that is doable in co-op? We'll take a 1 star task and you can make it harder as well and we won't mind. We spend money on the game as well, so why not cater to a significant portion of the player base?

 

[injunmick]

The title says it all,

CO-OP screwed again

 

And they are, there are a great many people that play only Coop.

Say what you like, but a lot of good folks play coop.

Why are they not included?

Some of you say, the percentage is not enough, why not?

PS  I play mainly PvP

you condescending jerks are irritating

PPS  some of you are those that say "its just a game"

[Fuyukaze]

3 minutes ago, Taylor3006 said:

Ehh wasn't hard to figure out IMHO. 

PvP is more popular, it is boring and takes way too long but more players participate in it. Some of us just don't like it and if PvE was not an option, would leave the game altogether. If you don't care for complaining, why the hell would you come into a complaint thread and complain about someone complaining? Really kind of pitiful. 

 

 

Its great if you did not take long to figure out but to say that everyone would understand with ease is nothing short of a generalization based on your own experience.

I'd prefer not to step into insults but there is no reason for me to not write a counter-reply against a complaint because in this context, it seems more like an individual screwing themselves over because they chose to restrict what they want to play which ultimately contradicted with what the company gives or wants to give. 

Now if OP or you for this matter truly want to make a difference in getting the voices of Coop players heard, then PM a mod/admin or make a suggestion like what Kizarvexis said to include at least one mission so that they can participate in this event. 

I have nothing against Coop players because i enjoy the mode as much as i enjoy randoms but rants will remain as rants if only complaints are flung around instead of engaging with the right people to get things done. 

[Fletcher7_1944]

 Considering what the last set of missions did to Co-op play, I'm GLAD they didn't include it...

  Seriously. folks farming kills/damage/xp in pve games made it nearly insufferable for the duration.   The Duke of York campaign, with it's emphasis on damage would have been more of the same.  I'm glad for the break from all the sub 4 minute matches.

 

  Following Taylor's advice seems like poetic justice, lol.   Farm salt and ruin matches for the same players who ruined pve games doing the last set of combat missions.  win-win!    The good thing is, that from what I can tell, these are cumulative total missions- not do xy and z in one game tasks.   Even if you stink the joint up, as long as you do SOME damage to the right kind of ship,  you're that much closer to finishing.   It's just a matter of how long your patience can hold out.

  I just hate the long range- pop in and out of detection range- and snipe meta in pvp...

[Taylor3006]

8 minutes ago, Fuyukaze said:

"rant snipped"

You are assuming I care. I don't. There are hundreds of threads with thousands of posts in the forums about people who prefer PvE with plenty of hate shown towards co-op players. There are thousands of posts about allowing a means to doing missions in PvE, some well thought out and presented, some like this one, not so much. Kiz has presented his argument so many times I have lost count, it is the same argument that MOST of the PvE players that participate in the forums have asked for. Wargaming does not care. PvP players do not care and like to belittle us. Hence my strategy of going into PvP play and ignoring everything but the mission requirements. I don't care if the team wins or loses unless it is a mission requirement. I don't care if it makes my teammates unhappy or if I let them die to focus on my mission. I don't care about my stats or the stats of anyone I play with. I just stay mission focused and laugh at the chat where my teammates are berating me for not helping. In case you missed it, I don't care. 

[Fuyukaze]

Just now, Taylor3006 said:

You are assuming I care. I don't. There are hundreds of threads with thousands of posts in the forums about people who prefer PvE with plenty of hate shown towards co-op players. There are thousands of posts about allowing a means to doing missions in PvE, some well though out and presented, some like this one, not so much. Kiz has presented his argument so many times I have lost count, it is the same argument that MOST of the PvE players that participate in the forums have asked for. Wargaming does not care. PvP players do not care and like to belittle us. Hence my strategy of going into PvP play and ignoring everything but the mission requirements. I don't care if the team wins or loses unless it is a mission requirement. I don't care if it makes my teammates unhappy or if I let them die to focus on my mission. I don't care about my stats or the stats of anyone I play with. I just stay mission focused and laugh at the chat where my teammates are berating me for not helping. In case you missed it, I don't care. 

If that is your outtake to the matter then ultimately there's nothing else to really discuss about and especially so if you are already aware of WG's stance on this.

You can take my posts as a rant in this rant thread and stay bitter over this predicament because as you said, you don't care.