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The stabilizing fin looking things, and these are repeated all over american ships, they look like grids of some sort

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Don't know about the thing on the left, but I think the things on the right are mounts for paravanes.

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The 1st one looks to be a fold down platform for standing on, with a set of stairs. Most likely for when the ship is in port to get up and down to/from a motor launch.

 

Look whats below the 2nd item. Its to provide a stop when the ship is tied up at a dock or along side other ships so the screw doesn't collide with the dock/other ship.

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The item you have circled on the left is a plank for the stairs immediately to the right. It folds down and becomes a gangway of sorts. The guard on the right is for the propellor and shaft since it sticks out farther than the [edited]end of the ship.

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Yeah the ones sticking out are for docking so as not to damage ship on near by ships and Piers

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The item circled on the left is the ship’s brow” or ladder.   It’s depicted in the stowed position.  It’s used when anchored or alongside a pier.  

When anchored its folded down and then the ladder is lowered, the “grid” turns into stairs to allow the ships boats (captains gig or admirals barge) to come alongside and people can board by going down the steps down to the waters edge.

With anything in the Navy, it has to complicate this with formalities and ceremonies, especially when boarding or departing a ship.

To depart the ship by boat, to announce boarding of the captains gig or admirals barge, 15 minutes prior to departure, the ship's bell is struck three times. that’s so enlisted crew members going ashore can board the boat  10 minutes prior the ships bell is struck twice that’s when officers can board  then 5 minutes prior the bell is struck once thats when the the captain / admiral / dignitaries / guests board.  If the captain and the admiral are getting off the ship, the captain boards the boat first and admiral last  

The captain's departure is announced by striking the ship's bell four times and announcing his title, and a final stinger is struck.

[Ding-ding / ding-ding "Clemson departing" ding]  The stinger is struck when the captain physically steps off the ship and into the boat. The stinger is also the signal for the signalman to hoist the third substitute pennant on the yardarm (where the ingame-signals go) to signal the absence of the commanding officer.

The admiral is announced by striking the ship's bell six times and his title - he also gets a stinger if he is an embarked officer, if he's just visiting he doesn't get a stinger.

[Ding-ding / ding-ding / ding-ding "DESRON Five departing"  and either ding or no ding]   if there is a stinger, that's when the signalman hoists the second substitute pennant on the yardarm to announce the admiral's absence.

And then the boats casts off    

When the boat gets to where they are going everyone gets off in reverse order. Admiral first Captain next  Officers and, enlisted last.   

That way the captain/admiral never has to wait.


Along side the pier the ladder is lowered to the pier and now people can get on and off

Coming aboard ship is another routine.   

In port at the top of the ladder is the ship's quarterdeck. It's a ceremonial reception area and where the officer of the deck stands his watch with the petty officer and messenger of the watch.

When you step aboard ship and onto the quarterdeck, you salute the flag first, then salute the officer of the deck.  Enlisted request permission to come aboard.  Officers report their return.  The captain's return is announced by striking the ship's bell in the same manner as he departed. 

[Ding-ding / ding-ding "Clemson arriving"]   Stinger when the captain physically steps onto the ship from the ladder - signalman runs and hauls down the third substitute pennant.

 

 

Anyways sorry for the TLDR wall of text.

 

 

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As @wtfovr says, the bit on the left is the ship's gangway (technically, it's actually a boarding brow, but literally everyone you talk to, even professional mariners refers to the whole thing as the gangway - I say this as a professional mariner). The whole thing pivots down so that the grid looking bit you circled becomes a flat platform. It's usually referred to as the turn table. It has a pivot in it to allow the gangway steps to be swung outboard to rest on a dock, or to be suspended inboard along side the ship from the wires. This second method is used when anchored, of if someone needs to board or depart the vessel on the sea side while at a dock. The V shaped bars on the turn table are a support to help hold it up. When the gangway lowered down, those bars will drop down and the apex of the V will rest on a plate on the ship's hull to provide support for the weight of the turn table and anyone on the gangway. If you follow the stairs down towards the right, you can see the arm that secures the gangway in it's stowed position. That arm will pivot down with the whole gangway when it is lowered and once it is parallel to the water, it will release the stairs. The wires that hold up the bottom portion, and which allow raising and lowering of the gangway run through that arm so that they are directly above the stairs themselves. That design of ship gangway is still extremely common in use today. It's what we had on every ship I ever worked on.

 

The second bit is called a prop guard. On a lot of ships with real narrow hulls like destroyers, but even on some cruisers, the blades of the propeller actually extend out beyond the width of the ship's hull. Those prop guards help prevent the prop blades from striking something like the side of a dock, or the side of another ship if more than 1 ship is being moored side by side.

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  I always figured the wings coming off the rear of many destroyers were there to protect the props from hitting docks when you pull alongside, as well as to keep sailors from falling off the deck- and right into the props.

  Some of them kinda resemble the nets you see on the side of aircraft carriers, to catch anyone who falls off the deck.  (It's a long way down!)

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12 hours ago, wtfovr said:

The item circled on the left is the ship’s brow” or ladder.   It’s depicted in the stowed position.  It’s used when anchored or alongside a pier.  

When anchored its folded down and then the ladder is lowered, the “grid” turns into stairs to allow the ships boats (captains gig or admirals barge) to come alongside and people can board by going down the steps down to the waters edge.

With anything in the Navy, it has to complicate this with formalities and ceremonies, especially when boarding or departing a ship.

To depart the ship by boat, to announce boarding of the captains gig or admirals barge, 15 minutes prior to departure, the ship's bell is struck three times. that’s so enlisted crew members going ashore can board the boat  10 minutes prior the ships bell is struck twice that’s when officers can board  then 5 minutes prior the bell is struck once thats when the the captain / admiral / dignitaries / guests board.  If the captain and the admiral are getting off the ship, the captain boards the boat first and admiral last  

The captain's departure is announced by striking the ship's bell four times and announcing his title, and a final stinger is struck.

[Ding-ding / ding-ding "Clemson departing" ding]  The stinger is struck when the captain physically steps off the ship and into the boat. The stinger is also the signal for the signalman to hoist the third substitute pennant on the yardarm (where the ingame-signals go) to signal the absence of the commanding officer.

The admiral is announced by striking the ship's bell six times and his title - he also gets a stinger if he is an embarked officer, if he's just visiting he doesn't get a stinger.

[Ding-ding / ding-ding / ding-ding "DESRON Five departing"  and either ding or no ding]   if there is a stinger, that's when the signalman hoists the second substitute pennant on the yardarm to announce the admiral's absence.

And then the boats casts off    

When the boat gets to where they are going everyone gets off in reverse order. Admiral first Captain next  Officers and, enlisted last.   

That way the captain/admiral never has to wait.


Along side the pier the ladder is lowered to the pier and now people can get on and off

Coming aboard ship is another routine.   

In port at the top of the ladder is the ship's quarterdeck. It's a ceremonial reception area and where the officer of the deck stands his watch with the petty officer and messenger of the watch.

When you step aboard ship and onto the quarterdeck, you salute the flag first, then salute the officer of the deck.  Enlisted request permission to come aboard.  Officers report their return.  The captain's return is announced by striking the ship's bell in the same manner as he departed. 

[Ding-ding / ding-ding "Clemson arriving"]   Stinger when the captain physically steps onto the ship from the ladder - signalman runs and hauls down the third substitute pennant.

 

 

Anyways sorry for the TLDR wall of text.

 

 

 

I knew the captain and admirals had ceremonies arriving and leaving the ship, but didn't know the details. It was an interesting wall of text to read. Thank you. :Smile_honoring::Smile_medal:

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13 hours ago, Tronchaser said:

Looks like someone knows his Navy traditions.... :Smile_medal:

What tradition exactly did he know of?  Knowing what a gangway is?  The only navy tradition associated with gangways is being able to make it across one, or more specifically the quarterdeck, while drunk and bloody and not end up in front of the Capt the next day.  :) 

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8 hours ago, CaptGodzillaPig said:

What tradition exactly did he know of?  Knowing what a gangway is?  The only navy tradition associated with gangways is being able to make it across one, or more specifically the quarterdeck, while drunk and bloody and not end up in front of the Capt the next day.  :) 

1st time I ever boarded a ship was the USS Carl Vinson in drydock in '92.  I walked up the gangway to the OOD, and right when I was going to open my mouth, the GQ alarm went off.  I had no idea what to do, and the OOD told me to "Sit yer [edited]right there and don't move!"...  Very exciting for a young sailor.

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