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30 minutes ago, NeutralState said:

10 DDs every game all games

 

Time to put this never-ending whining on ignore...

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46 minutes ago, NeutralState said:

10 DDs every game all games

when the game has 16 battleships. Normal.

when the game has 10 DDs, Unbearable. 

lol

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40 minutes ago, Kapitan_Wuff said:

I haven't seen more than 3 per team tonight.

I had a battle earlier with only 1 DD in the entire battle.  Not one per team.  One DD total.
 

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Even if there was (I highly doubt it) the PADDs are still newish.

 

Also.. What does having 10 DDs in queue have to do with anything?

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2 minutes ago, Merlox said:

when the game has 16 battleships. Normal.

when the game has 10 DDs, Unbearable. 

lol

Well, to be fair, DDs can generally deal with other DDs.  And BBs with other BBs.  And DDs can hurt BB's, but BBs are in a really difficult situation vs DD's.  They can't see the stealthy torp boats to shoot them without someone else finding them.  And hitting those higher tier Russian DDs at range is extremely difficult, and usually feels like it requires the blessings of RNGesus to get decent hits on them.

Of course, if you have a modicum of team work, it's not that big a deal.  But if you get the occasional game where there are about 5 BBs and 5 DDs per team, and one team's DDs dominate the other team's DD's, it's going to be a rough day for the other team's battleships.  I've been in some battles where it ended up being a pair of BBs against a pair of DDs.  And unless the BB team has a huge points lead and time is running out, it usually ends poorly for the BB team if the DD team is able to stealth torp you at will.

 

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I've been playing destroyers all night  not more than 3 per side and sometimes just one

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14 minutes ago, Crucis said:

I had a battle earlier with only 1 DD in the entire battle.  Not one per team.  One DD total.
 

I was in a game like that Friday night. I was getting ready to ask a DD to go spot for me when I realized that there were none to be had, the only DD in the game was on the opposite team.

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I just went back and checked the 9 games I played today.  None of them had more than 9 DD's.

 

10 DD games do happen, but they're not very common.  On the other hand, about 80% of my games for the last several months have had 10 BB's.

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8 minutes ago, Snargfargle said:

I was in a game like that Friday night. I was getting ready to ask a DD to go spot for me when I realized that there were none to be had, the only DD in the game was on the opposite team.

It'd kinda suck to be the DD in such a battle if you weren't in a nice stealthy torp boat.  I mean, having no enemy DD to face when you're in a stealthy ninja IJN torp boat is a dream come true.  Being in a Farragut in that scenario, not so much.

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1 hour ago, NeutralState said:

10 DDs every game all games

Lol sounds like awesome time to take Cruisers out to battles and kill off those DDs...

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I did have 1 or 2 matches with 10 DDs yesterday but its not exactly gamebreaking to me since i had them burning with perma-lit. :cap_book:

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4-5 BBs per match, which happens all the time, every day:  Acceptable.

4-5 DDs per match, which doesn't happen all the time:  WoWS Forum Armageddon.

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2 hours ago, Merlox said:

when the game has 16 battleships. Normal.

when the game has 10 DDs, Unbearable. 

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^Very this.

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7 minutes ago, Elegant_Winter said:

I think it's because most people would rather play against battleships.

Most players can't accept fighting ships fighting asymmetrically from theirs.  BBs are the most played ships in the game.

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1 hour ago, HazeGrayUnderway said:

Most players can't accept fighting ships fighting asymmetrically from theirs.  BBs are the most played ships in the game.

Battleships are fat and slow and easy to hit. It's less frustrating to face them for that reason.

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6 hours ago, Crucis said:

Well, to be fair, DDs can generally deal with other DDs.  And BBs with other BBs.  And DDs can hurt BB's, but BBs are in a really difficult situation vs DD's.  They can't see the stealthy torp boats to shoot them without someone else finding them.  And hitting those higher tier Russian DDs at range is extremely difficult, and usually feels like it requires the blessings of RNGesus to get decent hits on them.

Of course, if you have a modicum of team work, it's not that big a deal.  But if you get the occasional game where there are about 5 BBs and 5 DDs per team, and one team's DDs dominate the other team's DD's, it's going to be a rough day for the other team's battleships.  I've been in some battles where it ended up being a pair of BBs against a pair of DDs.  And unless the BB team has a huge points lead and time is running out, it usually ends poorly for the BB team if the DD team is able to stealth torp you at will.

 

There is still a bit of balance because the best counter-DD DDs are generally not great against other ships, and fighting other DDs always causes damage. 

I can't count the times on of my USN DDs has been the last DD left, and then can’t effectively engage enemy BBs, either because of range, because I can hit with all 8 torps on the Sims and not sink most ships, because the Kidd only has one rack which takes about a year to reload, or because I only have a sliver of health left. 

When an IJN DD somehow manages to escape the culling, that is a whole other story though. 

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2 minutes ago, inktomi19d said:

There is still a bit of balance because the best counter-DD DDs are generally not great against other ships, and fighting other DDs always causes damage. 

I can't count the times on of my USN DDs has been the last DD left, and then can’t effectively engage enemy BBs, either because of range, because I can hit with all 8 torps on the Sims and not sink most ships, because the Kidd only has one rack which takes about a year to reload, or because I only have a sliver of health left. 

When an IJN DD somehow manages to escape the culling, that is a whole other story though. 

I agree.  The Sims and Kidd really aren't suitable for taking down a BB or for that matter a cruiser in a 1v1 situation.  They're much better at counter DD work, although I think that both can be really good at smoke shooting the living hell out of large ships, if given half a chance.  Also, if an enemy ship tries to close on them or is even just relatively close to them, they can use their torps from the smoke for a nasty surprise to some silly BB that thinks that all that pew-pew-pew is no real threat to them.

The problem I can see with these two is that without someone to spot for them, they lose their best offensive tactic, smoke shooting.

But you're damned right about IJN DDs as great weapons in a late game BB vs DD situation.

 

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3 hours ago, Elegant_Winter said:

Battleships are fat and slow and easy to hit. It's less frustrating to face them for that reason.

Depends on the BB.  Also, in late game situations, if you have a BB vs DD situation and the BB has some degree of nimbleness, a good BB player can make himself pretty difficult to hit with torps.  A big reason that DDs can get torp hits earlier in battles is because they're able to attack from surprise, because their BB targets are paying attention to your team mates.  But when you're the only one left for him to worry about, even if he can't see you, his anti-torpedo "senses" are at maximum and he should be able to make his turns the instant he sees your torps, which makes it a LOT easier to avoid them.  I'm not sure if this would be enough in all situations, but it is one difficulty that stealthy torp boats face when in that 1v1 situation vs a lone BB.

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