725 [NEUTR] NeutralState Members 2,207 posts 11,692 battles Report post #1 Posted December 17, 2017 10 DDs every game all games 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,562 [SYN] Kapitan_Wuff Members 8,292 posts 14,496 battles Report post #2 Posted December 17, 2017 I haven't seen more than 3 per team tonight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,507 [SYN] Kuckoo Members 6,177 posts 14,455 battles Report post #3 Posted December 18, 2017 30 minutes ago, NeutralState said: 10 DDs every game all games Time to put this never-ending whining on ignore... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
269 Merlox Members 832 posts 5,277 battles Report post #4 Posted December 18, 2017 46 minutes ago, NeutralState said: 10 DDs every game all games when the game has 16 battleships. Normal. when the game has 10 DDs, Unbearable. lol 1 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
12,675 [SALVO] Crucis Members 28,248 posts 43,821 battles Report post #5 Posted December 18, 2017 40 minutes ago, Kapitan_Wuff said: I haven't seen more than 3 per team tonight. I had a battle earlier with only 1 DD in the entire battle. Not one per team. One DD total. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,848 Wulfgarn Members 5,597 posts 7,121 battles Report post #6 Posted December 18, 2017 (edited) Even if there was (I highly doubt it) the PADDs are still newish. Also.. What does having 10 DDs in queue have to do with anything? Edited December 18, 2017 by Wulfgarn Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
12,675 [SALVO] Crucis Members 28,248 posts 43,821 battles Report post #7 Posted December 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, Merlox said: when the game has 16 battleships. Normal. when the game has 10 DDs, Unbearable. lol Well, to be fair, DDs can generally deal with other DDs. And BBs with other BBs. And DDs can hurt BB's, but BBs are in a really difficult situation vs DD's. They can't see the stealthy torp boats to shoot them without someone else finding them. And hitting those higher tier Russian DDs at range is extremely difficult, and usually feels like it requires the blessings of RNGesus to get decent hits on them. Of course, if you have a modicum of team work, it's not that big a deal. But if you get the occasional game where there are about 5 BBs and 5 DDs per team, and one team's DDs dominate the other team's DD's, it's going to be a rough day for the other team's battleships. I've been in some battles where it ended up being a pair of BBs against a pair of DDs. And unless the BB team has a huge points lead and time is running out, it usually ends poorly for the BB team if the DD team is able to stealth torp you at will. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,790 SilverPhatShips Members 4,644 posts 24,366 battles Report post #8 Posted December 18, 2017 I've been playing destroyers all night not more than 3 per side and sometimes just one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
12,715 [PSP] Snargfargle [PSP] Members 19,325 posts Report post #9 Posted December 18, 2017 14 minutes ago, Crucis said: I had a battle earlier with only 1 DD in the entire battle. Not one per team. One DD total. I was in a game like that Friday night. I was getting ready to ask a DD to go spot for me when I realized that there were none to be had, the only DD in the game was on the opposite team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
133 [VVVVV] Capitan_Crunch Members 93 posts 8,971 battles Report post #10 Posted December 18, 2017 I have seen 6 or 7 per side a few times not in all games mostly mid tier Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
902 Vaidency Members 1,488 posts 8,824 battles Report post #11 Posted December 18, 2017 I just went back and checked the 9 games I played today. None of them had more than 9 DD's. 10 DD games do happen, but they're not very common. On the other hand, about 80% of my games for the last several months have had 10 BB's. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
12,675 [SALVO] Crucis Members 28,248 posts 43,821 battles Report post #12 Posted December 18, 2017 8 minutes ago, Snargfargle said: I was in a game like that Friday night. I was getting ready to ask a DD to go spot for me when I realized that there were none to be had, the only DD in the game was on the opposite team. It'd kinda suck to be the DD in such a battle if you weren't in a nice stealthy torp boat. I mean, having no enemy DD to face when you're in a stealthy ninja IJN torp boat is a dream come true. Being in a Farragut in that scenario, not so much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
903 anonym_OlK73e329bMY Members 3,284 posts Report post #13 Posted December 18, 2017 Time to play cruisers! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,581 Admiral_Thrawn_1 Members 12,707 posts 14,320 battles Report post #14 Posted December 18, 2017 1 hour ago, NeutralState said: 10 DDs every game all games Lol sounds like awesome time to take Cruisers out to battles and kill off those DDs... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
128 Fuyukaze Members 573 posts 1,465 battles Report post #15 Posted December 18, 2017 I did have 1 or 2 matches with 10 DDs yesterday but its not exactly gamebreaking to me since i had them burning with perma-lit. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,737 [KIA] AlcatrazNC Members 3,839 posts 18,946 battles Report post #16 Posted December 18, 2017 Only 2-4 DD per side in my game. Not that big of a deal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
792 Yoshiblue Members 4,477 posts 4,779 battles Report post #17 Posted December 18, 2017 Sounds like a feast for RN cruisers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
17,963 [WOLF5] HazeGrayUnderway Members 39,326 posts 31,553 battles Report post #18 Posted December 18, 2017 4-5 BBs per match, which happens all the time, every day: Acceptable. 4-5 DDs per match, which doesn't happen all the time: WoWS Forum Armageddon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
450 [DNGRZ] nhf Members 549 posts Report post #19 Posted December 18, 2017 2 hours ago, Merlox said: when the game has 16 battleships. Normal. when the game has 10 DDs, Unbearable. lol ^Very this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
903 anonym_OlK73e329bMY Members 3,284 posts Report post #20 Posted December 18, 2017 I think it's because most people would rather play against battleships. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
17,963 [WOLF5] HazeGrayUnderway Members 39,326 posts 31,553 battles Report post #21 Posted December 18, 2017 7 minutes ago, Elegant_Winter said: I think it's because most people would rather play against battleships. Most players can't accept fighting ships fighting asymmetrically from theirs. BBs are the most played ships in the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
903 anonym_OlK73e329bMY Members 3,284 posts Report post #22 Posted December 18, 2017 1 hour ago, HazeGrayUnderway said: Most players can't accept fighting ships fighting asymmetrically from theirs. BBs are the most played ships in the game. Battleships are fat and slow and easy to hit. It's less frustrating to face them for that reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
350 inktomi19d Members 1,744 posts 8,862 battles Report post #23 Posted December 18, 2017 6 hours ago, Crucis said: Well, to be fair, DDs can generally deal with other DDs. And BBs with other BBs. And DDs can hurt BB's, but BBs are in a really difficult situation vs DD's. They can't see the stealthy torp boats to shoot them without someone else finding them. And hitting those higher tier Russian DDs at range is extremely difficult, and usually feels like it requires the blessings of RNGesus to get decent hits on them. Of course, if you have a modicum of team work, it's not that big a deal. But if you get the occasional game where there are about 5 BBs and 5 DDs per team, and one team's DDs dominate the other team's DD's, it's going to be a rough day for the other team's battleships. I've been in some battles where it ended up being a pair of BBs against a pair of DDs. And unless the BB team has a huge points lead and time is running out, it usually ends poorly for the BB team if the DD team is able to stealth torp you at will. There is still a bit of balance because the best counter-DD DDs are generally not great against other ships, and fighting other DDs always causes damage. I can't count the times on of my USN DDs has been the last DD left, and then can’t effectively engage enemy BBs, either because of range, because I can hit with all 8 torps on the Sims and not sink most ships, because the Kidd only has one rack which takes about a year to reload, or because I only have a sliver of health left. When an IJN DD somehow manages to escape the culling, that is a whole other story though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
12,675 [SALVO] Crucis Members 28,248 posts 43,821 battles Report post #24 Posted December 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, inktomi19d said: There is still a bit of balance because the best counter-DD DDs are generally not great against other ships, and fighting other DDs always causes damage. I can't count the times on of my USN DDs has been the last DD left, and then can’t effectively engage enemy BBs, either because of range, because I can hit with all 8 torps on the Sims and not sink most ships, because the Kidd only has one rack which takes about a year to reload, or because I only have a sliver of health left. When an IJN DD somehow manages to escape the culling, that is a whole other story though. I agree. The Sims and Kidd really aren't suitable for taking down a BB or for that matter a cruiser in a 1v1 situation. They're much better at counter DD work, although I think that both can be really good at smoke shooting the living hell out of large ships, if given half a chance. Also, if an enemy ship tries to close on them or is even just relatively close to them, they can use their torps from the smoke for a nasty surprise to some silly BB that thinks that all that pew-pew-pew is no real threat to them. The problem I can see with these two is that without someone to spot for them, they lose their best offensive tactic, smoke shooting. But you're damned right about IJN DDs as great weapons in a late game BB vs DD situation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
12,675 [SALVO] Crucis Members 28,248 posts 43,821 battles Report post #25 Posted December 18, 2017 3 hours ago, Elegant_Winter said: Battleships are fat and slow and easy to hit. It's less frustrating to face them for that reason. Depends on the BB. Also, in late game situations, if you have a BB vs DD situation and the BB has some degree of nimbleness, a good BB player can make himself pretty difficult to hit with torps. A big reason that DDs can get torp hits earlier in battles is because they're able to attack from surprise, because their BB targets are paying attention to your team mates. But when you're the only one left for him to worry about, even if he can't see you, his anti-torpedo "senses" are at maximum and he should be able to make his turns the instant he sees your torps, which makes it a LOT easier to avoid them. I'm not sure if this would be enough in all situations, but it is one difficulty that stealthy torp boats face when in that 1v1 situation vs a lone BB. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites