35 Carrier_Hosho ∞ Beta Testers 39 posts 8,742 battles Report post #1 Posted December 15, 2017 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pCg0SHLZy8QXT-CtriqN_KWV0eLis_uqvyyfKMgaHrU/edit#gid=1251915034 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,212 [GGWP3] Hyyena Beta Testers 4,968 posts 15,811 battles Report post #2 Posted December 17, 2017 Nice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,544 [PSA] KaptainKaybe Members 5,118 posts 3,754 battles Report post #3 Posted December 19, 2017 Thanks. Was surprised to see how badly French cruisers get wrecked by these. But that's what happens when you thick deck protection according to Wargaming. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
722 StoneRhino Members 3,256 posts 4,322 battles Report post #4 Posted December 20, 2017 Thanks, was planning on testing out the AP bombs on the amagi when I got home. Looks like she might be my goto for ranked than. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,544 [PSA] KaptainKaybe Members 5,118 posts 3,754 battles Report post #5 Posted December 20, 2017 The final GZ form has been announced ... and it looks like it's using those super effective and consistently hard hitting AP bombs that were tested earlier. While I'm happy it's final form is MUCH stronger than the garbage it was on release, I'm also super sad that the USN flavor AP dive bombers are so so much worse in every way. Cause it's very important for Wargaming that USN CVs are never ever competitive (although Midway is quite strong with double torp bombers). USN AP baaaaadly needs a penetration buff. Cause right now, if I am not mistaken, it can only reliably damage ships with deck armors in the 70 to 150mm range or so, whereas GZ ones have a MUCH wider margin. And an absolutely tiny auto drop circle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,212 [GGWP3] Hyyena Beta Testers 4,968 posts 15,811 battles Report post #6 Posted December 20, 2017 Graf is not really "that" competitive, his fighters are weak and low reserve, his formation with a "pseudo-AS" lacks of strike power... and the AP bombs is good but not "that" good. Enterprise is much better, a balanced ship, with a strong fighter reserve and have torps (even with the weird patter) and bombs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
35 Carrier_Hosho ∞ Beta Testers 39 posts 8,742 battles Report post #7 Posted December 21, 2017 Graf Zeppelin bombs are going to be far more effective than the US right now, I will do a full stack report like this one for the zeppelin once they say she is finished. enterprise wins with the far superior fighter load out, though depending how the think of the graf zep that might change. in the end the graf zep bombs opens up a wider selection of ships to bomb, even the North Carolina and Montana will be penned for a good amount. The Graf zep will also be able to pen smaller ships far more effectively. I dev striking DDs in my small pool of games i had with her. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
251 WolfofWarship -Members- 1,542 posts 26 battles Report post #8 Posted January 9, 2018 Wow thanks for your hard work @Carrier_Hosho! That is a lot of detail! O: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
40 sartt Members 407 posts 2,453 battles Report post #9 Posted March 28, 2018 On 12/15/2017 at 10:31 AM, Carrier_Hosho said: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pCg0SHLZy8QXT-CtriqN_KWV0eLis_uqvyyfKMgaHrU/edit#gid=1251915034 amazing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
35 Carrier_Hosho ∞ Beta Testers 39 posts 8,742 battles Report post #10 Posted April 18, 2018 Updated for the French BBs finally. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
