Kiev to Tashkent

[legozer]

I like Kiev. It's an okay DD that can be really fun to play.  Have enjoyed the whole line up to this point, and like the look of the Khab. The problem for me, though, is that the Tashkent looks like a slight downgrade from Kiev. Concealment is worse, maneuvering is worse, artillery (stock) is worse. It's fast, but, so is Kiev...

...so what is the point of the Tashkent?

 

ALSO I want to go down the other line, too. Is my only option to burn a tonne of free XP to get the Ognevoi? Is there another way to grind to it?

[jager_geist]

7 minutes ago, legozer said:

ALSO I want to go down the other line, too. Is my only option to burn a tonne of free XP to get the Ognevoi? Is there another way to grind to it?

You could play them. That is another way too grind them.

[abyssofthetriffid]

10 minutes ago, legozer said:

I like Kiev. It's an okay DD that can be really fun to play.  Have enjoyed the whole line up to this point, and like the look of the Khab. The problem for me, though, is that the Tashkent looks like a slight downgrade from Kiev. Concealment is worse, maneuvering is worse, artillery (stock) is worse. It's fast, but, so is Kiev...

...so what is the point of the Tashkent?

 

ALSO I want to go down the other line, too. Is my only option to burn a tonne of free XP to get the Ognevoi? Is there another way to grind to it?

trashcan is good enjoy it

[Doomlock]

Tashkent is a bigger Kiev. She has more HP, a heal, access to the T9+ upgrade slot, and more usable torpedoes. She is a more difficult ship overall than Kiev, but if you can get the hang of her, she'll pay off.

[PelicanHazard]

15 minutes ago, legozer said:

ALSO I want to go down the other line, too. Is my only option to burn a tonne of free XP to get the Ognevoi? Is there another way to grind to it?

Buy the Tier 7 Minsk off the tech tree then grind the XP to get Ognevoi.

15 minutes ago, legozer said:

I like Kiev. It's an okay DD that can be really fun to play.  Have enjoyed the whole line up to this point, and like the look of the Khab. The problem for me, though, is that the Tashkent looks like a slight downgrade from Kiev. Concealment is worse, maneuvering is worse, artillery (stock) is worse. It's fast, but, so is Kiev...

...so what is the point of the Tashkent?

To train you for Khabarovsk. The heal changes how you can play the ship compared to Kiev, as now you can afford to trade some health away to press an advantage instead of disengaging and restealthing. Other than that, you can play it much like Kiev, although you can't press in as close since it's bigger and clumsier so more enemy shots will connect unless you open up the distance. (Which is also good Khab training, as a Khab under ~12km range starts getting hit more...or so I've been told. Still grinding the Tash myself.)

[legozer]

Ok. Trashcan here I come! Thanks guys.

 

As far as the Ognevoi grind, though, I have an elite Minsk already, so I don't get regular XP on it. I suppose that means I have to dump free XP?

[legozer]

Just now, legozer said:

Ok. Trashcan here I come! Thanks guys.

 

As far as the Ognevoi grind, though, I have an elite Minsk already, so I don't get regular XP on it. I suppose that means I have to dump free XP?

 

Nevermind. I figured it out.

[EmperorMaxwell]

Trashcan is horrid, only ship in the line so far that I hate playing. Only reason I keep grinding is I hate leaving a line unfinished.

[Spooooooooooooooooooooon]

I'm liking Tashkent better than Kiev at the moment.

 

[Morpheous]

Tashkent has been hard to play,  cannot contest caps well, and I have trouble learning that.  Its a light CA, treat her like that and you will be fine.  The strength if you can use it, is lots of torps that have decent range and reload quickly.   Otherwise stay out there, follow CAs into battle and try and start lots of fires.  People will eventually get annoyed and destroy  you, but if you were in a Khab you would blithly sail away, barely a scratch.

[Mizzerys_Fate]

3 hours ago, Doomlock said:

Tashkent is a bigger Kiev. She has more HP, a heal, access to the T9+ upgrade slot, and more usable torpedoes. She is a more difficult ship overall than Kiev, but if you can get the hang of her, she'll pay off.

Tashkent torps nerfed to 6km. I believe Kiev is 8 km.

[Mizzerys_Fate]

3 hours ago, legozer said:

I like Kiev. It's an okay DD that can be really fun to play.  Have enjoyed the whole line up to this point, and like the look of the Khab. The problem for me, though, is that the Tashkent looks like a slight downgrade from Kiev. Concealment is worse, maneuvering is worse, artillery (stock) is worse. It's fast, but, so is Kiev...

...so what is the point of the Tashkent?

 

ALSO I want to go down the other line, too. Is my only option to burn a tonne of free XP to get the Ognevoi? Is there another way to grind to it?

Tashent has lolo armour.

 

OGGY has STEALTH torp capability.

[Doomlock]

1 minute ago, dEsTurbed1 said:

Tashkent torps nerfed to 6km. I believe Kiev is 8 km.

Tash has 8km torps, with a 60 knot speed. Kiev has 4km stock, 8km upgraded.

[Mizzerys_Fate]

6 hours ago, Doomlock said:

Tash has 8km torps, with a 60 knot speed. Kiev has 4km stock, 8km upgraded.

T.Y. I posted b.c.

Before coffee. 

[AlcatrazNC]

Tashkent have access to heal. If you want to be more team play focus you can take smoke (but considering most ship will have a huge bloom after firing in smoke it's not that usefull) or you can play the annoying HE spammer with heal. The stock ship is crap though. 

Tashkent (like Khaba) has a great advantage over other DD which is the ability to heal pen damage from BB. 

 

And if you want to grind the other line well you can either play the ship or use free XP. IMO just play the ship using XP flag and camo. It's not like the Grozovoi is really interesting anyway 

[legozer]

Ok. Been Tashkenting it up a bunch lately. WAY better than Kiev in every measurable way.

 

I LOVE this ship. It's a bully. I've had a great deal of success contesting caps early on, pushing enemy dds out with ease. I've successfully knifed a Fiji and a Hindy, punched multiple Gearings in the teeth...man, great fun. I rarely ever stop firing, and charge after just about anyone in my way like a mad dog.

Certainly more of an impact ship that the line from t6 to t8 gives you. I think it will become my best ship in no time.