2,005 [FML] UltimateNewbie Members 4,323 posts 16,699 battles Report post #1 Posted December 14, 2017 (edited) So, I've been working on the Hipper for quite a while now, and at no point have I actually enjoyed it. Until today. Yep, that's right: Three battles, three detonations in a row in my Hipper. A detonation hat-trick in a cruiser. My ~38% win rate and ~50% more than server average damage suggests I dont know how to actually win in the Hipper. Currently, the detonations are just making my massive losing streak all the more better at the moment (won one battle from the last 14 or so - none of which were close, exept perhaps the second detonation battle where we were only about 200 points behind late battle...) All I can say is: FML ftw Edited December 14, 2017 by UltimateNewbie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,544 [PSA] KaptainKaybe Members 5,118 posts 3,754 battles Report post #2 Posted December 14, 2017 Wow. Wow. That does indeed sound mega frustrating. I'd be raging at getting three dets in a row like that. Hipper is not a horrible ship, but it is currently a bit sub par because of it's low rate of fire and dpm. A rate of fire increase of 1 or 2 seconds should be sufficient. Otherwise, it has a lot going for it like great shell arcs, health pool, tankiness, german hydro, and really good AA for it's tier. It's just that it's DPM really holds it back from being truly competitive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,605 [O_O] desmo_2 Members 7,944 posts 22,464 battles Report post #3 Posted December 14, 2017 I am just curious...do you remember how low your health was during each of those detonations? I have noticed a good number of my detonations (usually in destroyers) occur when I am low health. So, the detonation killed me with one hit when 3 or 4 would also have done it. Sure, I was detonated, but it was impossible for me to rage about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,114 [FOXEH] Umikami Banned 14,364 posts 23,358 battles Report post #4 Posted December 14, 2017 This would NOT be a day to invest in Lottery tickets. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
215 VonSmallHausenn Members 817 posts 9,071 battles Report post #5 Posted December 14, 2017 (edited) Would be a lot cleaner,transparent game,without these RNG factors . Just too many things out of control of the player's hand. I just detonated a full HP U.S CL yesterday(tier 7),with my cranky Yorck,shelling HE blindly at him at very edge of my range,,nothing to do with my aiming...... Edited December 14, 2017 by VonSmallHausenn Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,153 [ARGSY] centarina Members 10,326 posts 16,228 battles Report post #6 Posted December 14, 2017 there is a reason why i run -70 det mod on all my ship (unless i run JC full time) I've been detted from full health in Hipper (by a bomb) that is when I changed to mod. havn' had issue with det since ( i only remember 2 or 3 in over a year ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
16 [NOBUL] Zigfreid501 Members 68 posts 11,550 battles Report post #7 Posted December 14, 2017 I enjoyed my time in the Hipper. It is a good step from the Yorck and has it's own playstyle. It has nice firepower and shell arcs and decent maneuverabilty when modded for it. It does have soft sides and in T9-10 matches LOOK OUT . I found the sneaky module payed off better than the rudder shift for staying alive. Staying at mid-distance and using some fire discipline will help you be effective longer in the match. Your gun accuracy will still be good at those ranges and less wiggle will be required. Then when necessary, go dark and slip away. All this unless you are farming those Det flags for T9-10 boats like I do when I'm low Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,085 [WOLF2] TheDreadnought Beta Testers 4,720 posts Report post #8 Posted December 14, 2017 What Hipper (and Prinz Eugen) really needs is a repair party. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,593 [CRMSN] Cobraclutch Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 6,021 posts 4,739 battles Report post #9 Posted December 14, 2017 5 minutes ago, TheDreadnought said: What Hipper (and Prinz Eugen) really needs is a repair party. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
864 WhatIsTheOdds Beta Testers 2,855 posts 9,046 battles Report post #10 Posted December 14, 2017 2 hours ago, centarina said: there is a reason why i run -70 det mod on all my ship (unless i run JC full time) I've been detted from full health in Hipper (by a bomb) that is when I changed to mod. havn' had issue with det since ( i only remember 2 or 3 in over a year ) This mod actually does nothing. I have it on my Gremyaschy and I've been detonated twice with it. Both times from full HP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,085 [WOLF2] TheDreadnought Beta Testers 4,720 posts Report post #11 Posted December 14, 2017 43 minutes ago, NeoRussia said: This mod actually does nothing. I have it on my Gremyaschy and I've been detonated twice with it. Both times from full HP. You realize that -70% still leaves a 30% chance of it happening. They still teach percentages in school right? Or the fact that statistics only apply over a large number of trials.... so you could get detonated 10x in a row and still be at -70% Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
17,544 [WOLF5] HazeGrayUnderway [WOLF5] Members 38,557 posts 31,200 battles Report post #12 Posted December 14, 2017 I guess you weren't using those detonation signal flags that you got from the first one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,005 [FML] UltimateNewbie Members 4,323 posts 16,699 battles Report post #13 Posted December 14, 2017 8 hours ago, desmo_2 said: I am just curious...do you remember how low your health was during each of those detonations? I have noticed a good number of my detonations (usually in destroyers) occur when I am low health. So, the detonation killed me with one hit when 3 or 4 would also have done it. Sure, I was detonated, but it was impossible for me to rage about it. Not exactly. I think the first battle, I was on about a quarter HP, died to BB HE. The second I was about 40 per cent, and died to a torp in the bow from a Martel that I epically nailed on a cap. The third I was 90 per cent, essentially full health, and 'sploded. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,005 [FML] UltimateNewbie Members 4,323 posts 16,699 battles Report post #14 Posted December 14, 2017 (edited) 40 minutes ago, HazeGrayUnderway said: I guess you weren't using those detonation signal flags that you got from the first one Haha, no I wasn't. I store them up for ranked battles. Edit: actually got detonated yesterday too, so a decent haul of flags recently :-p . Pity you don't get more flags for repeats... Funniest thing was, at the start of the third battle I announced in global chat that I had been detonated twice in two matches, so was on a hat trick. So many people commented when I detonated again... #solidarity Edited December 14, 2017 by UltimateNewbie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
280 [CAPGO] VVoony Members 775 posts 12,369 battles Report post #15 Posted December 14, 2017 tell your cook to stop frying potatoes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
13 [PN] 6a6a6a Members 28 posts 22,789 battles Report post #16 Posted December 14, 2017 55 minutes ago, UltimateNewbie said: I store them up for ranked battles. idk why u do this its not like u can make it to rank 1 without expending them all since u took so long last time :P Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,005 [FML] UltimateNewbie Members 4,323 posts 16,699 battles Report post #17 Posted December 14, 2017 1 hour ago, 6a6a6a said: idk why u do this its not like u can make it to rank 1 without expending them all since u took so long last time :P :-( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
