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Should this be concerning? My Days Average Damage for T9 DD is almost Equal to my T4 DD (Also Now #1 Clemson Player again)

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So I am wondering if anyone else would find this as concerning as I do. I played  a few games in my  Tier 9 Pan-Asia DD the Chung Mu today and only barely squeaked out a slightly higher average damage then I did in my T4 American DD the Clemson. Now I don't think I am a bad player but I am pretty sure you're suppose to do more damage at Tier 9 than you are at Tier 4 right?

 

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On a completely unrelated note I may once again rule supreme of Warships.Today player rating for the Clubson. Take that Priso something or another.

 

Edit: I was totally going to make a separate thread for this but I decided that it'd be better to take on to the end of this one.

 

 

TOP Clemson STATS once again!!!!!!!!

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Well after these few battles yesterday and some monster quality battles in my Clemson before I am now the best Clemson player on the sever once again. (Rated by WTR for players with over 100 battles in the Clemson)

 

These screenshots below show some of my most epic Clemson games or at least the ones I bothered to screenshot.

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The T4 Clemson is a monster of a DD at her tier and a fan favorite of seal clubbers. The type of boats she faces are fairly helpless against her, and CVs are not only rare, but also cannot manual drop.

T9 DDs, on the other hand, have to deal with triple torp cross drop CVs, Radar, Hydro, more experienced players, and German BBs with full secondary specs. It's an entirely different ballgame.

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That's some serious clubbing in the Clemson. So much for protected MM keeping the baby seals safe. :cap_book:

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1 minute ago, TornadoADV said:

That's some serious clubbing in the Clemson. So much for protected MM keeping the baby seals safe. :cap_book:

 

:Smile_child: whistles innocently.... 

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Damage for destroyers does not "scale" very well.

I recall average damage for T3 BB (~18k) and T3 DD (~18K) is about even....

...but by T10 it's something like BB 90k, DD 45k....

Perhaps DD have learnt their proper role - to be a "support class" for their BB overlords - by that stage....

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..By the way, another +1 for your brag thread. Not a subtle this time, though. I may have to give it a "bored" icon but any attention is good attention, amirite?

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I do more damage in my t4 Pheonix than in my t10 Minotaur, which should be concerning, but won't surprise anyone who knows me :Smile_child:

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Whaddaya know, I'm seeing the same problem.

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plz fix it WG!

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Orion is grossly OP, lol. It's a pretty well known fact by now.

Honestly, I sometimes think Wargaming actually wants some T3 and T4 ships to be this gross. So many of the most OP premiums in the game are T3 and T4.

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Why do you only have 5 battles in the Chung Mu, 3 battles in the Clemson and 1 in the Montana? It this for the  test server?

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Oh, to improve the OP, you could have put some sort of comment such as "radar is the problem" or perhaps "BB AP needs nerf" - it would have made the thread more lively...

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7 hours ago, pikohan said:

Whaddaya know, I'm seeing the same problem.

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plz fix it WG!

Nice, pretty good for  T4 BB.

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6 hours ago, Miproyq said:

Why do you only have 5 battles in the Chung Mu, 3 battles in the Clemson and 1 in the Montana? It this for the  test server?

It is my stats just for yesterday, overall I have a few hundred battles in my Montana and Clemson.

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Was in a match with you, in your PADD, last night.  You topped the chart, although I really didn't get a chance to see what you and your division were actually doing.  You were basically camped in B, but that was the busiest cap in terms of hulls.

I was the Khab, took out a red DD early.

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11 hours ago, Kevik70 said:

So I am wondering if anyone else would find this as concerning as I do. I played  a few games in my  Tier 9 Pan-Asia DD the Chung Mu today and only barely squeaked out a slightly higher average damage then I did in my T4 American DD the Clemson. Now I don't think I am a bad player but I am pretty sure you're suppose to do more damage at Tier 9 than you are at Tier 4 right?

 

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No its normal.

 

It highlights how ineffective higher tier DD's are at doing damage.

 

Marblehead and Texas do more average damage then Fletcher. 

 

Heck wyoming does 4k less avg damage then Fletcher says a lot about higher tier DD damage. 

 

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Cobraclutch said:

No its normal.

 

It highlights how ineffective higher tier DD's are at doing damage.

 

Marblehead and Texas do more average damage then Fletcher. 

 

Heck wyoming does 4k less avg damage then Fletcher says a lot about higher tier DD damage. 

 

 

 

 

Yeah some high tier DDs have really low average damage, like 30-40k averages. I mean for comparision my Clemson has a 54k average damage which is higher than the servers average for almost any tier DD.

 

Thats either A: I do really well in the Clemson or B: People just suck at playing DDs. Both are almost certainly true.

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Just now, Kevik70 said:

Yeah some high tier DDs have really low average damage, like 30-40k averages. I mean for comparision my Clemson has a 54k average damage which is higher than the servers average for almost any tier DD.

If you account for the old minekaze / fujin / , they legit blow most higher tier DD's out of the water for AVG Dmg. 

 

34/35/35k damage for Kamikaze / R / Fujin with about 20k solo games played between the 3 over the last 2 weeks.

 

Basically puts it on par damage wise with most tier 9 DD's . I guess that's why they removed them lol. 

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42 minutes ago, Cobraclutch said:

No its normal.

 

It highlights how ineffective higher tier DD's are at doing damage.

 

Marblehead and Texas do more average damage then Fletcher. 

 

Heck wyoming does 4k less avg damage then Fletcher says a lot about higher tier DD damage. 

 

 

 

 

 

Yup, between a little clubbing down low and the feast or famine and more well more famine (IJN) of high tier DD's its not too surprising.

 

 

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I thought this wasn't going to be about the Clemson. Silly me. :p

 

On a side note I'm not particularly proud of my Benson damage numbers. They're bellow average. Not sure if I'm just not great at DDs, or what. My win rate is good though. 

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You can easily club newer players in a low tier ship to inflate the damage numbers.  Most higher tier players don't get clubbed quite so easily, so the numbers don't scale up with tier.  Plus, there are other members of your team beating up those same ships at the higher tiers, so your percentage of team damage won't be quite so big.

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You should be very concerned. First you start slipping a bit, then next, your waxing nostalgic for the "good old days", you'll notice your mouse hand getting shaky, and then it's only a matter of time before your younger clanmates have you carted off to a home....

Once there, you'll game out your days playing N64 Goldeneye split-screen multiplayer...

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7 minutes ago, Skpstr said:

You should be very concerned. First you start slipping a bit, then next, your waxing nostalgic for the "good old days", you'll notice your mouse hand getting shaky, and then it's only a matter of time before your younger clanmates have you carted off to a home....

Once there, you'll game out your days playing N64 Goldeneye split-screen multiplayer...

No, they would do that to me, I'm still young and hip. I can still roll with the youngsters and yolo dab with a fidget spinner or whatever the kids do these days.

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I've noticed the damage issue as well in my own DD play. But it is pretty simple. A low tier DD has 5-6 tiny guns, just like a high tier, and probably get nearly the same amount of damage per game with torps, since you get fewer hits in the high tiers because ship drivers are smarter and much faster. In Clemmie you can yolo Wyomings all day long, but you're not yoloing a Missouri in a Fletcher. It's really not surprising that there isn't much growth in overall damage. The health of high tier DDs isn't all that much greater either, and it is more than compensated for by the much greater hitting power of the BBs and cruisers that shoot at them. 

The only exception to this are the Russky gunboats, which have high damage potential.

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