4,173 Pope_Shizzle Members 3,229 posts 7,820 battles Report post #1 Posted December 14, 2017 (edited) You know who you are. Shame on you. Every single last one of you. Clan hopping between the main and a sub clan because you're afraid of losing points in the main group and essentially playing with house money by causing larger point losses for your opponents is cowardly and beneath you. You have the ability to finish first on your own without the manipulation and shenanigans. Trying to be dodgy with the rules is just such a childish and pathetic move. For however much it's worth (if at all), respect has been lost. You guys have played into every single stereotype people had of you since the group was formed. Afraid of winning or losing on your own merits. Please stop. Have a little dignity and self-respect. You know who you are. No names need be said. That is all. Edited December 14, 2017 by Pope_Shizzle 35 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
572 [O7] Kevik70 [O7] Beta Testers 1,654 posts 10,699 battles Report post #2 Posted December 14, 2017 Amen. The whole mess might have been ok had they not seemingly tried to sync drop against other top teams in order to mess up their points. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,521 [WOLF7] awiggin Members 12,620 posts Report post #3 Posted December 14, 2017 This should surprise no one...... WG has made it easy to exploit the system, allowing top players to bounce freely between their sub clans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
572 [O7] Kevik70 [O7] Beta Testers 1,654 posts 10,699 battles Report post #4 Posted December 14, 2017 8 minutes ago, awiggin said: This should surprise no one...... WG has made it easy to exploit the system, allowing top players to bounce freely between their sub clans. Would have been ok if they where trying to help out the sub clans, but they tried to club top level teams intentionally so their main clan didn't have to lose points. Now I still don't know if anyone used their sub clans to manipulate points on purpose but as far as I can tell none of the top level clans have done that. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,894 [HINON] Doomlock [HINON] Wiki Lead, Beta Testers, Privateers 6,801 posts 5,248 battles Report post #5 Posted December 14, 2017 While I am not sure what exactly is being referred to, you had to really mess up to get Pope mad. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9,390 [BONKZ] Weegees_Useless_API Privateers 8,037 posts 21,606 battles Report post #6 Posted December 14, 2017 Basically, from what I am interpreting and what I have seen talked about in some discord's, here is how it works: A clan racks up some points with their main clan, enough to be right in the mix for first place. Then they take all their best players and shift them to a subclan and then chatbox sync drop with one of the other top clans they are fighting for first place with. In this manner, they will not lose points with their top clan and have a good chance of defeating the other top clans and making them lose points. Take a look at the top clans and start looking at their transfer activity between all their subclans. 2 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
183 [AA-DS] Simzee Members 979 posts Report post #7 Posted December 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Pope_Shizzle said: You know who you are. Shame on you. Every single last one of you. Clan hopping between the main and a sub clan because you're afraid of losing points in the main group and essentially playing with house money by causing larger point losses for your opponents is cowardly and beneath you. You have the ability to finish first on your own without the manipulation and shenanigans. Trying to be dodgy with the rules is just such a childish and pathetic move. For however much it's worth (if at all), respect has been lost. You guys have played into every single stereotype people had of you since the group was formed. Afraid of winning or losing on your own merits. Please stop. Have a little dignity and self-respect. You know who you are. No names need be said. That is all. Are you new to this clan battle stuff Pope? WoT clan battles bought things like this and dozens of other shenanigans to get ahead, expect it to become more common. If there’s a away for something to be exploited it will be found Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,276 anonym_Hf93Jbjm9WjT Members 4,302 posts Report post #8 Posted December 14, 2017 This kind of very unfairplay behaviour has one advantage, when finally caught out, the repressed, steaming rage, of the cheats, is extremely hot and savoury/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,557 [KSF] BiggieD61 Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 1,732 posts 21,674 battles Report post #9 Posted December 14, 2017 1 hour ago, murryhawk said: Are you new to this clan battle stuff Pope? WoT clan battles bought things like this and dozens of other shenanigans to get ahead, expect it to become more common. If there’s a away for something to be exploited it will be found Yeah, he is new to CW like the Sphinx is new to Egyptian history .... 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
656 anonymised Members 1,684 posts 20,078 battles Report post #10 Posted December 14, 2017 No hate, but this is how it feels when normal players encounter your filthy fishing or unicums divisions in a random battle. Gaming the mechanics, being gamed by the system. It's not petty like this clan crap but the end result is that it is not fun for the rest of us 3 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,940 [ASHIP] Grevester Members 5,454 posts 12,933 battles Report post #11 Posted December 14, 2017 15 minutes ago, NotoriousRNG said: No hate, but this is how it feels when normal players encounter your filthy fishing or unicums divisions in a random battle. Gaming the mechanics, being gamed by the system. It's not petty like this clan crap but the end result is that it is not fun for the rest of us Cool, nice to know we can't play with our friends. 4 1 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
45 [WOLF1] toosonmike Beta Testers 402 posts 5,742 battles Report post #12 Posted December 14, 2017 8 minutes ago, NotoriousRNG said: No hate, but this is how it feels when normal players encounter your filthy fishing or unicums divisions in a random battle. Gaming the mechanics, being gamed by the system. It's not petty like this clan crap but the end result is that it is not fun for the rest of us I agree 100%, get dropped into a game with a div of them(no names needed), we lose(they lose too), and everybody but them is a "shitter". the bad news is, they know how to work the system...liars and cheaters, are what they are. 1 1 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,658 [WOLF1] HyperFish Members 3,161 posts 9,548 battles Report post #13 Posted December 14, 2017 Or you could just ignore them. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
12,714 [PSP] Snargfargle [PSP] Members 19,325 posts Report post #14 Posted December 14, 2017 (edited) This reminds me of college basketball. There is a university team in my state, in fact it's that of an old alma mater of mine, that is usually one of the best in the nation. There is another state university that also is usually pretty good but that the first will never play because, though win would only gain the "lesser" school a few brownie points, a loss would make the "greater" school look very bad indeed. Edited December 14, 2017 by Snargfargle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
21 anonym_CSdztHGM3fXS Members 657 posts Report post #15 Posted December 14, 2017 simple solution, each change of clan association has double the time penalty as the previous capping out to once per thirty days. you could even start to penalize the clan they leave if you really want to stop it, as in points earned decay if a player leaves. not all at once but they start to decay. as to the swap clan rule, restart the timer each time they do a clan battle. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
656 anonymised Members 1,684 posts 20,078 battles Report post #16 Posted December 14, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Pulicat said: Cool, nice to know we can't play with our friends. There's playing with friends and then there is telling people to "get the F off my screen" when you sink them. Hardly wholesome fun attitude and not really the sentiment one expects from someone who likes to just "play with their friends". Edited December 14, 2017 by NotoriousRNG 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,126 [VNGRD] Shadowrigger1 Members 4,533 posts 18,866 battles Report post #17 Posted December 14, 2017 People manipulating a gaming mode ? Say it ain't so Pope! say it ain't so ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,562 [SYN] Kapitan_Wuff Members 8,292 posts 14,496 battles Report post #18 Posted December 14, 2017 I have lost all respect for that clan, they have gone to the bottom of the pile now. So pathetic and low. We had a few run in with the there cheater squad, I will remember who was on it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
206 Pata1985 Members 1,019 posts 8,525 battles Report post #19 Posted December 14, 2017 and here I am playing vanilla since day #1, maybe that;s why I'm a potato. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7,039 Skpstr Members 34,409 posts 10,768 battles Report post #20 Posted December 14, 2017 And this, kids, is why "the game lets me do it, and it's fair because anyone can do it" is a slippery slope..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1 [PSV] xRektified_Schwidere Members 4 posts Report post #21 Posted December 14, 2017 Problem is not WG not patching that, problem is TOP of the chart clans abusing that system. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
12,714 [PSP] Snargfargle [PSP] Members 19,325 posts Report post #22 Posted December 14, 2017 49 minutes ago, Skpstr said: And this, kids, is why "the game lets me do it, and it's fair because anyone can do it" is a slippery slope..... In another game I used to play, someone discovered a glitch that allowed a powerful unit to respawn indefinitely. All of the "experts" exploited this glitch, while mid-level players, who mostly played for fun and adhered to the true spirit of the game, did not. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,978 [-K--] Spyde Beta Testers 4,843 posts 14,895 battles Report post #23 Posted December 14, 2017 47 minutes ago, Rektifier said: Problem is not WG not patching that, problem is TOP of the chart clans abusing that system. Clans = Clan. There are many Clans in Typhoon leagues, and only 1 has been seen doing this. The rest have not as far as i have seen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,622 [-KIA-] Czevak Senior Volunteer Moderator, Beta Testers, Supertester, Privateers, Senior Volunteer Moderator 6,550 posts 8,491 battles Report post #24 Posted December 14, 2017 Already lost all my respect long ago, these actions show "lower than trash" syndrome. There is no cure. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
41 [WOLF3] JER1971 Members 144 posts 18,474 battles Report post #25 Posted December 14, 2017 On 14.12.2017 at 10:53 AM, ROY4LP4IN said: I had to read this a few times...thought my eyes were playing some sort of trick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
