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This thread was inspired by Adm Nate's thread about his hearing being restored. Maybe this forum is not the best place to ask this but it is the only "social media" where I can talk to others that I have. Got foot pain and it's gotten worse the past year. Am 68 and my feet pretty much ache all the time now when I am on them, Gets REAL bad at times. Seeing a specialist this month. I have weird feet. Were (11 A) by the time I was 12 years old but in the past 10 years they have gone to (12 C). Been on hard floors teaching...on concrete floors with a thin bit of indoor outdoor carpet over it for 28 years. I never sit when teaching...on my feet always. I am not diabetic which can mess up your feet but I don't have diabetics. Could be arthritis. Could be a number of things. I will know more when I see this specialist. I could only play 9 holes of golf as a teenager.  Gave it up. Went on a Scout hike of 25 miles when I was bout 13 and my buddies had to carry me the last 5 miles the pain was so bad.....so this is not exactly a new thing. You got bad feet? Why? What helps you?  Any advice or comments? Maybe this is not the place to ask about this but my regular MD is clueless so I am seeing a big time specialist Dec 14. I am just curious as to whether or not some others have bad foot pain and what they have done for it. Tks. As I said maybe this is not the place to ask for help from others but it's all I got. I did put this in off-topic.:Smile_honoring:  Heck maybe there is a foot expert around here!

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Custom fit orthotics would be my best answer. Otherwise, some amount of medication...?

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I'm not a foot expert, but it could be Tarsal Tunnel Syndrome (similar to Carpal Tunnel but in your feet).   My wife has had about a dozen foot surgeries in the last 3 years to fix various issues - Bunions, Bone Spurs, Tarsal Tunnel, etc.  

 

I don't know where you are located but my wife's Podiatrist is a superstar in his field (long story)... 

 

Best of luck sir!

 

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3 minutes ago, bassmasta76 said:

I'm not a foot expert, but it could be Tarsal Tunnel Syndrome (similar to Carpal Tunnel but in your feet).   My wife has had about a dozen foot surgeries in the last 3 years to fix various issues - Bunions, Bone Spurs, Tarsal Tunnel, etc.  

 

I don't know where you are located but my wife's Podiatrist is a superstar in his field (long story)... 

 

Best of luck sir!

 

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Tks.  The Doc I am seeing is not a Podiatrist he is some kinda high end foot, hip, and knee specialist. Nothing against Podiatrists but my MD wants me to see this guy.  Glad your wife has a good Doc!

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32 minutes ago, dmckay said:

Tks.  The Doc I am seeing is not a Podiatrist he is some kinda high end foot, hip, and knee specialist. Nothing against Podiatrists but my MD wants me to see this guy.  Glad your wife has a good Doc!

Sounds like the right path to take.  Just be sure he considers whether orthotics would be a good solution and doesn't go straight for surgery.

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There are too many variables involved to even speculate here. It sounds like it may be congenital though if you have had it since you were young. For instance, some are predisposed to bone spurs, which can cause sharp pains in the feet. 

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Not a foot expert by any means, but my sister suffers from being on her feet all day as well. As someone else mentioned, Dr. Scholl's foot inserts work well for her.

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You ever try non-walking exercises that would strengthen each foot's muscles? I'm thinking like stationary cycling. Do you know if you have what most of us call "flat feet"? Like when you walk with wet feet does the imprint left behind look like a duck just walked through the room? 

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1 hour ago, Herr_Reitz said:

You ever try non-walking exercises that would strengthen each foot's muscles? I'm thinking like stationary cycling. Do you know if you have what most of us call "flat feet"? Like when you walk with wet feet does the imprint left behind look like a duck just walked through the room? 

Flat feet since I was an adolescent.  Little or no arch in foot. I got weird feet.  Tks

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I was always told the same thing... flat-footed. I road bikes a lot. If they find nothing wrong with you per say, you might want to try cycling. The key is to use the front part/ball/pad of your foot. Cycling increases the strength of the muscles i your foot. I don't want to offend anyone but let me just say, surgery should be the very last option, when there is no other recourse. 

 

Take some of the suggestions/thoughts you get along with you to the doc and ask him/her if any of them might help. You might want to consider a review of your diet too... it can have a huge impact on the body overall. 

 

All the best with this - i Know it must truly be a real pita. 

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On 28/11/2017 at 1:07 AM, Herr_Reitz said:

I was always told the same thing... flat-footed. I road bikes a lot. If they find nothing wrong with you per say, you might want to try cycling. The key is to use the front part/ball/pad of your foot. Cycling increases the strength of the muscles i your foot. I don't want to offend anyone but let me just say, surgery should be the very last option, when there is no other recourse. 

 

Take some of the suggestions/thoughts you get along with you to the doc and ask him/her if any of them might help. You might want to consider a review of your diet too... it can have a huge impact on the body overall. 

 

All the best with this - i Know it must truly be a real pita. 

Tks.  I just wanted some input. DIET is often cited as an issue. I eat like [edited] too much. 

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Depends on what the pain feels like. A burning kind of pain usually indicates nerve problems. Achy pain usually a indication of arthritic changes or improper footwear. Sharp pain usually an indicator of physical problems like bunions or the like. Your doctor should be able to get a diagnosis for you. One of the problems with feet in older folks like us is we lose fat pads on our feet and that lack of cushioning can be a real problem. Orthotics really can help, the problem is finding the right one as they are all a bit different. I found that by not tying my shoes too tight and using an over the counter orthotic really helped my feet. I probably bought 20 different ones before I found the one that really gave me relief. Had I been smart, I would have gone to one of those shoe stores that specializes in orthotic footwear and had someone give me a hand. It may cost more upfront, but would have been worth it IMHO. 

If you have flat feet then I would start with arch supports. They may feel weird at first but getting everything in place is always a good way to start off. 

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35 minutes ago, dmckay said:

Tks.  I just wanted some input. DIET is often cited as an issue. I eat like sh#t too much. 

A diet too rich in certain proteins can cause too much uric acid in the blood, which is then precipitated around the joints, causing pain, swelling and inflammation. This condition is commonly known as gout and can occur in older people when their liver no longer has the ability to detoxify their systems as it did in their younger years. However, it also can occur in younger people due to their genetics. Your specialist will certainly test for this and may recommend a protein-restricted diet. Another culprit in the diet that can lead to gout is high-fructose corn syrup, which is metabolized in the body differently from glucose and can increase uric acid levels. If you drink a lot of soda you might consider cutting down.

 

If you are interested in the biochemistry of how metabolism of a sugar can increase uric acid levels:

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Fructose is metabolized to fructose-1-phosphate primarily by fructokinase. Fructokinase has no negative feedback system, and ATP is used for the phosphorylation process. As a result, continued fructose metabolism results in intracellular phosphate depletion, activation of AMP deaminase, and uric acid generation which is harmful at the cellular level. Zeid Khitan and Dong Hyun Kim. 2013. Fructose: A Key Factor in the Development of Metabolic Syndrome and Hypertension. Journal of Nutrition and Metabolism. Volume 2013, Article ID 682673, 12 pages.

  


 
 
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4 minutes ago, Snargfargle said:

A diet too rich in certain proteins can cause too much uric acid in the blood, which is then precipitated around the joints, causing pain, swelling and inflammation. This condition is commonly known as gout and can occur in older people when their liver no longer has the ability to detoxify their systems as it did in their younger years. However, it also can occur in younger people due to their genetics. Your specialist will certainly test for this and may recommend a protein-restricted diet. Another culprit in the diet that can lead to gout is high-fructose corn syrup, which is metabolized in the body differently from glucose and can increase uric acid levels. If you drink a lot of soda you might consider cutting down.

 

If you are interested in the biochemistry of how metabolism of a sugar can increase uric acid levels:

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Fructose is metabolized to fructose-1-phosphate primarily by fructokinase. Fructokinase has no negative feedback system, and ATP is used for the phosphorylation process. As a result, continued fructose metabolism results in intracellular phosphate depletion, activation of AMP deaminase, and uric acid generation which is harmful at the cellular level. Zeid Khitan and Dong Hyun Kim. 2013. Fructose: A Key Factor in the Development of Metabolic Syndrome and Hypertension. Journal of Nutrition and Metabolism. Volume 2013, Article ID 682673, 12 pages.

  



 
 

Good info but fructose is in damn near everything in this country. Gotta be very hip to avoid it. I have bouts of toe and joint pain (ankles) in my feet along with pain and ache much of the time these days.  Tks.  We shall see.  Seeing Doc in 2 weeks. My be a combination of things. 

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50 minutes ago, dmckay said:

Good info but fructose is in damn near everything in this country. 

You have that right, it's even in ketchup.

 

tomatoes, distilled vinegar, high-fructose corn syrup, corn syrup, salt, spice,onion powder, natural flavoring

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I know someone who had bouts of gout (as he'd call it). There was for him, only one solution. A very specific brand of "wild cherry" natural juice. He'd drink it over a period of a day, maybe a couple and the gout would go away. I don't remember the name... but the solution was popular with others he knew, as they asked for the brand, tried it and reported it worked well for them. 

 

 

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On 11/27/2017 at 10:42 PM, Herr_Reitz said:

I know someone who had bouts of gout (as he'd call it). There was for him, only one solution. A very specific brand of "wild cherry" natural juice. He'd drink it over a period of a day, maybe a couple and the gout would go away. I don't remember the name... but the solution was popular with others he knew, as they asked for the brand, tried it and reported it worked well for them. 

 

 

I have heard of this but this not gout. Gout is super duper bad and your toe (usually the big toe) swells up and you cannot to a dang thing.  Bad.  My neighbor has this.  I got foot pain but nothing like what gout does. TKS

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When I was a kid in the 1960's I had pain in my right foot but our family doctor could never find anything wrong. In 1975 I almost lost my job because the boss found me standing still, because of the foot pain, instead of doing the work I  was supposed to be doing.  I went to a podiatrist who found the bone right behind the toe next to the big toe was bent downwards so a couple of days later a simple surgery corrected that problem. However, all those years of  putting all the weight on the outside of my foot, and my foot angled to the side which it still is, screwed my knee up and that's a problem today. 

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On 27/11/2017 at 8:43 PM, dmckay said:

This thread was inspired by Adm Nate's thread about his hearing being restored. Maybe this forum is not the best place to ask this but it is the only "social media" where I can talk to others that I have. Got foot pain and it's gotten worse the past year. Am 68 and my feet pretty much ache all the time now when I am on them, Gets REAL bad at times. Seeing a specialist this month. I have weird feet. Were (11 A) by the time I was 12 years old but in the past 10 years they have gone to (12 C). Been on hard floors teaching...on concrete floors with a thin bit of indoor outdoor carpet over it for 28 years. I never sit when teaching...on my feet always. I am not diabetic which can mess up your feet but I don't have diabetics. Could be arthritis. Could be a number of things. I will know more when I see this specialist. I could only play 9 holes of golf as a teenager.  Gave it up. Went on a Scout hike of 25 miles when I was bout 13 and my buddies had to carry me the last 5 miles the pain was so bad.....so this is not exactly a new thing. You got bad feet? Why? What helps you?  Any advice or comments? Maybe this is not the place to ask about this but my regular MD is clueless so I am seeing a big time specialist Dec 14. I am just curious as to whether or not some others have bad foot pain and what they have done for it. Tks. As I said maybe this is not the place to ask for help from others but it's all I got. I did put this in off-topic.:Smile_honoring:  Heck maybe there is a foot expert around here!

As a runner, myself and my friends have experienced many problems with our feet. There's just so much that can happen with them. Hip problems, problems with the backside and with the knees can all show as foot pain. Even arches that are too high or too low. Rotating to one side when you walk. Getting it checked out is best, but make sure to look in all areas. Trapped nerves in the hips can even result in foot pain. It's a strangely complicated part of the body. I hope you get some answers (and some relief) soon!

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On 12/7/2017 at 3:27 PM, WolfofWarship said:

As a runner, myself and my friends have experienced many problems with our feet. There's just so much that can happen with them. Hip problems, problems with the backside and with the knees can all show as foot pain. Even arches that are too high or too low. Rotating to one side when you walk. Getting it checked out is best, but make sure to look in all areas. Trapped nerves in the hips can even result in foot pain. It's a strangely complicated part of the body. I hope you get some answers (and some relief) soon!

Tks. My regular MD did note that the pads on my feet are very very thin which he says can happen as one gets older.  I am 68. Like I have said I got weird feet....long and very narrow, delicate. I think it's all catching up with me now. Just gotten worse here lately.  See top end specialist Wed. Look at a pic of a foot.  Millions of little bones and joints.  Lotta stuff that can get messed up. Actually at my age I don't know anyone of my friends who does not have some kinda foot, knee, hip complaint. Couple have had knee or hip replacements but they don't replace feet.  Not yet anyway. Carry on. 

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