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Seem like Possible T8 premium French Battleship is on the table.
Sadly, Not Jean Bart I hoped for.

Anyone who never heard of her, She is 4th of Richelieu class that never get a chance to laid down because Nazi Germany invaded in 1940.
Her design is dramatically changed from her sister by her turret layout go from AB to AX (or AY). So expect her to broadside a lot due to poor angle she may have in design.

 

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I do like the look, and those secondaries. It would be interesting to see the range on them and whether or not a secondary build for her is viable. 

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I wonder how she would play with engine boost. She might be the second fastest BB in game alongside Gneisenau with a blistering 32knots. It is really a good BB

 

The only downside I see yet is If you destroy her forward turret she will have to kite away or reverse in to do damage.

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Interesting layout sort like a bigger Graf Spee with secondaries lotta broadside to show for a full salvo....

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2 hours ago, New_Horizontal said:

Seem like Possible T8 premium French Battleship is on the table.
Sadly, Not Jean Bart I hoped for.

Anyone who never heard of her, She is 4th of Richelieu class that never get a chance to laid down because Nazi Germany invaded in 1940.
Her design is dramatically changed from her sister by her turret layout go from AB to AX (or AY). So expect her to broadside a lot due to poor angle she may have in design.

 

 

People need to get it through their heads the only way, and i mean the only way we're gonna see a JB without a complete AAA mechanics overhaul is as a straight Richelieu clone, and a clone just isn't likely. So JB isn;t going to show up until and unless we get a AAA mechanics overhaul.

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I sure hope 309m dispersion over 8 guns is a typo, even at 24.8km that's insanely bad with 1.8 sigma

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13 minutes ago, Psycodiver said:

I sure hope 309m dispersion over 8 guns is a typo, even at 24.8km that's insanely bad with 1.8 sigma

 

Someone on FB claimed NC has 350 at that range. 

 

@LittleWhiteMouse You're the one with all the dispersion charts, how does that compare?

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That... is a very pretty ship.

*looks at Free XP reserves*

Welp. Better get a grindin'.

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47 minutes ago, Carl said:

 

Someone on FB claimed NC has 350 at that range. 

 

@LittleWhiteMouse You're the one with all the dispersion charts, how does that compare?

Gimme a tick to whip something up.  I was waiting to see all of the French Battleships to plot them (just in case there are oddities like Queen Elizabeth), but I can jump the gun.

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38 minutes ago, Carl said:

 

Someone on FB claimed NC has 350 at that range. 

 

@LittleWhiteMouse You're the one with all the dispersion charts, how does that compare?

 

I got your back;

 

yggO14F.png

 

Sadly, the chart doesn't got that high. However, dispersion seems to match German.

 

How it compares to other tier VIII 15-16.1" guns (0/5/10/15/20 km), roughly in order of penetration:

 

  British 381mm/45: 746/617/509/424/359

German 380mm/52: 747/638/538/456/393

  French 380mm/45: 777/641/552/480/414

      USN 406mm/45: 818/690/583/496/431

    Italian 381mm/50: 825/711/610/520

        IJN 410mm/45: 894/729/594/488/410

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10 minutes ago, Phoenix_jz said:

I got your back;

yggO14F.png

 

Thanks.  This matches what I found. 

  • American, Russian and British battleships share dispersion patterns.
  • French, Italian and German battleships share dispersion patterns.
  • Japanese battleships have their own dispersion pattern.
  • Warspite & Hood have their own dispersion pattern.
  • Queen Elizabeth looks like she almost shares Warspite & Hood's dispersion pattern, but she's slightly off.
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2 minutes ago, LittleWhiteMouse said:

Thanks.  This matches what I found. 

  • American, Russian and British battleships share dispersion patterns.
  • French, Italian and German battleships share dispersion patterns.
  • Japanese battleships have their own dispersion pattern.
  • Warspite & Hood have their own dispersion pattern.
  • Queen Elizabeth looks like she almost shares Warspite & Hood's dispersion pattern, but she's slightly off.

 

I would hope so, it's one of your charts XD

Although it's not marked on the chart, I believe Roma's dispersion also falls on the German dispersion line.

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Sweet. More Frenchies to fry- I mean, buy. :Smile_hiding:

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23 minutes ago, Phoenix_jz said:

British 381mm/45: 746/617/509/424/359

German 380mm/52: 747/638/538/456/393

  French 380mm/45: 777/641/552/480/414

      USN 406mm/45: 818/690/583/496/431

    Italian 381mm/50: 825/711/610/520

        IJN 410mm/45: 894/729/594/488/410

 

This is more than a little off for the british guns, it's only just one side, (no one seems sure of which), of 400mm at 15km. The rest look in the right general range.

 

Otherwise thanks for digging the info up. Shame we don't know what the vertical dispersion curves look like.

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5 minutes ago, Carl said:

 

This is more than a little off for the british guns, it's only just one side, (no one seems sure of which), of 400mm at 15km. The rest look in the right general range.

 

Otherwise thanks for digging the info up. Shame we don't know what the vertical dispersion curves look like.

 

No problem, happy to be of service!

 

In regards to the British AP, @Trainspite mentioned that the penetration for the 14" guns on KGV seemed off by a wide margin at range, so perhaps the issue is related?

 

I'm not exactly sure what you mean by the "it's only just one side, (no one seems sure of which), of 400mm at 15km", would you mind clarifying? Sorry.

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Man, I always hated Gascognes design, and this only reinforces that hatred. I don’t like those stats at all either.

 

I was hoping WG was planning to do an as-designed Jean Bart to bundle up with Massachusetts, to kind of have that Tirpitz/Bismarck dichotomy with Richelieu. This is just looking to be another lol gimmick premium.

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33 minutes ago, LittleWhiteMouse said:

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With the new data points.  Even the Gascogne fall onto the German track.

Did you want the dispersion from the T3, 5-8 as well?

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Just now, Doomlock said:

Did you want the dispersion from the T3, 5-8 as well?

Someone else is free to plot it.  They should all conform to the German dispersion model.  It's only if one falls off it that there's anything worth noting.

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