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I did the research, so these should fit in well with their assigned tiers:

III Danton

IV Bretagne

V Courbet

VI Richelieu

VII, VIII, IX, and X are up to you

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The Richelieu has been set as tier 8 and I think as a premium.

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23 minutes ago, GermanGamer7 said:

III Danton or Bouvet, your pick

Nothing in common. Bouvet was a pre-dreadnought and Danton was a "semi-dreadnought" one I really hope they include:

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This unique semi-dreadnought would make an interesting Tier III battleship. While her main guns would put her at a disadvantage against other battleships and dreadnoughts, her unusual array of rapid-firing secondary guns, 6 x 9 inch per side, would make her very effective against enemy cruisers and destroyers.

Danton was laid down in Brest in February 1906, launched on 4 July 1909, and commissioned into the French Navy on 1 June 1911 and displaced 19,736 metric tons with a crew of 681 officers and enlisted men. She was powered by four steam turbines with 26 boilers, the first French warship to use turbines, providing a top speed of around 19 knots (35 km/h; 22 mph).

Danton's main battery consisted of four 12 inch guns mounted in two twin gun turrets, one forward and one aft. The secondary battery consisted of twelve 9 inch guns in twin turrets, three on either side of the ship. A number of smaller guns were carried for defense against torpedo boats. The ship was also armed with two 17.7 inch torpedo tubes. The ship's main belt armour was 10.6 inches thick and the main battery was protected by up to 11.8 inches of armour. The conning tower also had 11.8 inch thick sides.

In July 1909, a week after she was completed, she was sent to the United Kingdom in honour of the coronation of King George V in 1911. Upon her return to France, Danton was assigned to the 1st Battle Squadron, along with her sister ships and the two powerful dreadnoughts Courbet and Jean Bart. In 1913, while  in the Mediterranean, Danton suffered an explosion in one of her gun turrets, which killed three men and injured several others.

Danton served in World War I in the French Mediterranean Fleet. At the outbreak of the war in early August 1914, she was assigned to guard convoys bringing French soldiers from North Africa, to protect from attack by the German battlecruiser Goeben and light cruiser Breslau, which were operating in the area. At the time, she remained in the 1st Battle Squadron alongside her sister ships, and by 16 August, moved with the bulk of the French fleet from Malta to the entrance of the Adriatic to keep the Austro-Hungarian Navy bottled up.

Danton was torpedoed by U-64 on 19 March 1917, 22 miles south-west of Sardinia. The battleship was returning to duty from a refit in Toulon and was bound for the Greek island of Corfu to join the Allied blockade of the Strait of Otranto. Danton was carrying more men than normal, as many were crew members of other ships at Corfu, and had been zig-zagging to foil enemy submarines. The ship sank in 45 minutes; 806 men were rescued by the destroyer Massue and nearby patrol boats, but 296, including Captain Delage, went down with the ship. Massue attacked U-64 with depth charges, but the U-boat successfully evaded her attacker.

The location of the wreck remained a mystery until an underwater survey team inadvertently discovered the battleship in December 2007. In February 2009, the wreck was confirmed to be Danton. The ship is in remarkably good shape for her age. Danton rests upright on the ocean floor, and most of the original equipment is reported to be intact.

Check out my pre-dreadnought thread (and a few choice dreadnoughts and battlecruisers) and cast a vote:

 

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25 minutes ago, GermanGamer7 said:

I did the research, so these should fit in well with their assigned tiers:

III Danton or Bouvet, your pick

IV Bretagne

V Courbet

VI Richelieu

VII, VIII, IX, and X are up to you

 

How about:

 

tier III: Dreadnought version of Danton (Fiction)

tier IV: Courbet (France's first dreadnought)

tier V: Bretagne (France's super dreadnought)

tier VI: Normandie (3x4 340mm Planned class to follow Bretagne)

tier VII: Lyon (4x4 340mm planned class to follow Normandie)

tier VIII: Richelieu (Contemporary of Bismarck, North Carolina, etc.)

tier IX: Alsace (Planned class to follow Richelieu. Had 3x3 and 3x4 380mm and 3x3 406mm variants)

tier X: "Super Alsace" (Fiction)

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12 minutes ago, ROY4LP4IN said:

The Richelieu has been set as tier 8 and I think as a premium.

Probably not a prem, I have a feeling Jean Bart will be the prem with a focus on secondary weapon trading out from the Richelieu's fairly robust AA suite

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3 minutes ago, GermanGamer7 said:

NO WAY THAT'D WORK

Tier VII doesn't sport 300-400 mm

rest are lame

 

Uh, you realise what Panzer said is literally what WG is going to do...?

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11 minutes ago, GermanGamer7 said:

NO WAY THAT'D WORK

Tier VII doesn't sport 300-400 mm

rest are lame

 

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You realize tier VII currently has just about all battleships at tier VII aside from KGV and Scharnhorst having 380, 406, or 410mm guns right?

 

And honestly, what I listed is what we're likely gonna get unless you want them making fake ships or going into proposals that weren't going to be built.

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this would also be the reason as to why I tiered them the way I did

 

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Seeing as those ships take the spots of tier V-VIII, tier IV would be courbet since it was the direct predecessor of Bretagne, and a dreadnought version of Danton would best fit at tier III since WG won't do multicaliber main batteries. Alsace makes sense at tier IX being the successor to Richelieu, and since nothing works at tier X since Alsace was the last BB design France made, a "super Alsace" of some sort is likely going to be at tier X.

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1 hour ago, GermanGamer7 said:

NO WAY THAT'D WORK

Tier VII doesn't sport 300-400 mm

rest are lame

 

Not sure if trolling or just not very observant. Wondering if "did my research" included paying attention to the actual game...

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I used the average Tier British BB for the gun calibers. ‘‘Twas the only thing I really really needed to do. So, off to the devs it goes.

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Just give me the gun calibers, on Saturday I’ll present everyone with a good tech tree. 

:fish_book::fish_glass:???

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7 minutes ago, GermanGamer7 said:

Just give me the gun calibers, on Saturday I’ll present everyone with a good tech tree. 

:fish_book::fish_glass:???

We don't need to. You can find them by googling. The tree is decided on, so, it's not gonna get you anywhere.

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What Panzer said, but his “Super Alsace” will be REPLACED. I will present MY proposal, which is Panzer’s WITH A TWEAK!!!! 

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What Panzer said, but his “Super Alsace” will be REPLACED. I will present MY proposal, which is Panzer’s WITH A TWEAK!!!! 

 

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I would have had Jean Bart, but it’s got 380 mm guns.

So, I shall look deep, deep into Wikipedia. Maybe they’ll find a Super Cruiser and I can use it as a tier X BB.

 

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That means a tier X French BB line is unlikely.

My main goal on the forum is providing suggestions for new tech trees or tech tree expansions.

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3 minutes ago, GermanGamer7 said:

Status update: The largest gun ever fielded by the French Navy is 380 mm.

 

Yes, it was, but France developed even bigger guns that weren't put into service, but tested. i.e. they had a 450mm (17.7 inch) gun they tested in the 20's

 

Even if they never did make a gun above 15 inch, you could still do a tier X with 4x4 15 inch guns, make up for smaller guns that are more numerous.

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Add something! 

I’ll make my own up!

X Louis XII

4 450 mm main gun batteries, 3 guns on each turret, 2 turrets in a stack on the aft and fore side.

410 mm Armour in the conning Tower and turrets

200 mm for superstructure 

350 mm for Torpedo bulges 

215 mm for deck 

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