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been playing the  Russian cruisers, up to tire VIII. its a very bad line. very very weak armor. the guns light fires but that's about it. other allied boats well take the  kills.  you can try to go for the destroyers if there not being covered but if you have to push to get the  DDs your  going to lose. most of the time. in random battles if there are Russians boats those are the  one  to focus on very easy kills. just look at them and  you'll sink them. any tier equal or higher, one or two salvo well take the russian boats out. you can hang back and support carriers but don't expect to accomplish missions in campaigns . I suggest not to play this line. you mite get frustrated.    thank . post scrip. no reply  please.

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7 minutes ago, alanbay said:

no reply  please.

I'm very curious to what you will do if we reply anyways.

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I enjoy them. 

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Got to Moskva last year... kept the Budy and the Chappy.. Fun line.

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Replying! Bogatyr and Svetlana are tops in their tiers.  Tiers 3-4.  You did say Russian cruisers are bad all the way to tier 7.  No...just no.  Most all cruisers are poorly armored.  That is why they are cruisers. 

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18 minutes ago, Lert said:

I'm very curious to what you will do if we reply anyways.

Maybe he'll stop posting for another 4 months.  What ever shall we do?

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4 minutes ago, Slntreaper said:

>not St Louis.

St Louis is tier 3 and is not top tech tree ship in that tier.  Great ship if you play her right however.  Not sure where she ranks as of now.  Pretty high.  Warships Today data seems to be down.

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31 minutes ago, alanbay said:

been playing the  Russian cruisers, up to tire VIII. its a very bad line. very very weak armor. the guns light fires but that's about it. other allied boats well take the  kills.  you can try to go for the destroyers if there not being covered but if you have to push to get the  DDs your  going to lose. most of the time. in random battles if there are Russians boats those are the  one  to focus on very easy kills. just look at them and  you'll sink them. any tier equal or higher, one or two salvo well take the russian boats out. you can hang back and support carriers but don't expect to accomplish missions in campaigns . I suggest not to play this line. you mite get frustrated.    thank . post scrip. no reply  please.

I enjoy all my Russian cruisers from tier (1)  to (10)  you do not know what you're talking about  

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31 minutes ago, alanbay said:

been playing the  Russian cruisers, up to tire VIII. its a very bad line

& what Russian line are you referring to OP, a nerfed one that WG will never release? We all know how disadvantaged Russian ships are in WoWS. (Ditto for WoT)

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Is OP playing the same cruiser line I am? I'll admit Shchors is a bit of a let down, but it's not the worst ship ever...

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It needs a bit of time to learn How to play them well. Cruisers are to be played from distance, DD also. On DD use AFT instead of concealment, on cruisers use IFHE and DE, and rain fire on BBs and other cruisers. MyKiev has 14,7km range and spend the whole game shooting and burning enemy ships. Once a while i cap, and Im having Fun with it.

 

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Kiev has massive guns for its tier.

Buddy is the best tier 6 cruiser bar none.

Schorres is a fickle cat with very fast firing guns.

Tier 8 is a struggle because you are tier 10.

Tier 9 better armour and great guns.

Tier 10 is actually a battleship. :)

 

The key is to play at range kiting and never giving broadsides. 

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6 minutes ago, _WaveRider_ said:

 

and now this thread. Why do you play?

There seems to be a common theme here... I think it's:

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Oh, alanbay.  I do wonder what motivates you to post on the forum as you do.

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OP I replied as did others.  Why u say no reply pls. THIS is a forum.  People will reply.  Tough.....deal with it. :Smile_glasses:

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21 hours ago, alanbay said:

been playing the  Russian cruisers, up to tire VIII. its a very bad line. very very weak armor. the guns light fires but that's about it. other allied boats well take the  kills.  you can try to go for the destroyers if there not being covered but if you have to push to get the  DDs your  going to lose. most of the time. in random battles if there are Russians boats those are the  one  to focus on very easy kills. just look at them and  you'll sink them. any tier equal or higher, one or two salvo well take the russian boats out. you can hang back and support carriers but don't expect to accomplish missions in campaigns . I suggest not to play this line. you mite get frustrated.    thank . post scrip. no reply  please.

Each ship line has something different about it and each ship has a distinct flavor to that particular line. Russian cruisers are the main ones that I play and I can give some info in a nut shell......here we go from Tier III to Tier X of the ones I have (all standard and the Kutuzov)

 

Keep in mind that RU cruisers as a whole are like all cruisers in being a supportive ship. Except these ships are about raining down the pain and inflicting good damage. From Tier III to 10 you will see that you will get amazing damage if they are used right and are meant as a skirmisher that can really punish multiple enemies if they are ignored. The only true brawlers in this line are the Moskva (if used right) and the Bogatyr

 

Tier III - Bogatyr

Pros:

Many barrels that can be extended in range with commander skill

Low profile

Is good at punishing when ignored

Decent brawler against other cruisers

Has respectable speed for a tier III cruiser

When pacing enemies it can be a good skirmisher

 

Cons:

No torps

No AA

 

Personal Grade: A-

 

Tier IV - Svietlana

Pros:

Many barrels that can be extended in range with commander skill

Is good at punishing when ignored

Respectable speed for a tier IV

When pacing enemies it can be a good skirmisher

Second best torp range of RU cruisers (5km)

 

Cons: 

Rather tall compared to the tier III

Weak armor

Easy to citidal 

terrible AA

 

Personal Grade: B+

 

Tier V - Kirov

Pros:

Powerful larger main guns with superior range

Respectable speed when in a straight line

Good bow armor

 

Cons:

Short range torps (4km)

Bleeds a lot of speed in turns

Harder ship to turn than other Tier V cruisers

Weak AA

Main guns are slow to reload

 

Personal Grade: C-

 

Tier VI - Budyonny

Pros:

Main guns pack a decent punch, especially with HE

Good reload of main guns

Superior range of main guns

Good speed of ship for a tier VI

Good maneuvering of ship for its tier range in combat

 

Cons:

Short range torps (4km)

Weak to decent AA

Soft on the side and bow when hit by larger guns

 

Personal Grade: B+

 

Tier VII - Shchors

Pros:

Main guns pack a decent punch, especially with HE (good for peppering the enemy)

Good reload of main guns

Good range of main guns

Good speed of ship for a tier VII

Decent maneuvering of ship for Tier VII

Respectable AA

 

Cons:

Short range torps (4km)

Very weak armor on the side of ship 

 

Personal Grade: A-

 

Tier VIII - Chapayev

Pros: 

Main guns pack a decent punch, especially with HE (good for peppering the enemy)

Good reload of main guns

B Hull provides radar with good range (more limited duration)

Decent maneuvering of ship for Tier VIII

Respectable AA

 

Cons:

Weak armor

Short range torps (4km)

 

Personal Grade: B

 

 

Tier VIII - Mikhail Kutuzov

(my #2 favorite ship in the game, the smoke nerf didn't hurt me as I use the range more than the smoke)

Pros:

Main guns pack a decent punch, especially with HE (good for peppering the enemy)

Superior range of main guns (19.1km)

Great reload of main guns

Good torp range (8km)

Decent speed

Smoke (7.7km detect when firing)

One of the best firebugs in the game

At long range has superior dodging of shells

Best non-carrier AA for Tier VIII

 

Cons:

At long range shells tend to float a little

Thin armor

Can sometimes be painful to get full speed from a dead stop

No radar

 

Personal Grade: A+

 

Tier IX - Dmitri Donskoi

Pros:

Main guns pack a decent punch, especially with HE (good for peppering the enemy)

Good range with guns

Good reload of main guns

Good torp range (8km)

Ability to heal

Has radar with good range (more limited duration)

 

Cons:

Weak armor

Main shells float a long range

Slow torps

Terrible rudder

 

Personal Grade: C-

 

Tier X - Moskva

(My #1 in the game)

Pros:

Bow on can go toe to to with any BB in the game

Guns are amazing for damage and can citidal any cruiser and almost all BB's that are broadside to it (capable range 22km, ideal range closer than 15km)

Great at tanking damage

Ability to heal

Amazing range on guns if they are properly set up (over 22km!)

Fast reload (base of 10 seconds per volley)

Fast round speed (more linear projectory of shells)

Capable of one volley vaping other cruisers with AP on citidal hits (I have done this to Minotaurs and Des Moines)

Has radar with good range (more limited duration)

Fair AA

Great HE and AP 

Has good chance of starting fires

 

Cons:

No torps

Flat broadside (can be citidaled by both battleships and cruisers when not angled)

 

Personal Grade: A+

 

 

There you have it, a simple breakdown of each ship. Keep in mind that the ships can be customized a bit to help exploit their strengths and to limit their weaknesses. It is true that they are not the best at killing (although I have been able to get Krakens in Tiers III through VIII on a semi regular basis), what they are meant for is to skirmish. Use the range of the guns and pace the enemy. If they ignore you, then you punish them. In most matches with my Tiers VI through VIII I will usually get around 80 to 100k damage and 1 to 3 kills. 

 

Like all ships, these have a distinct approach that can really have an impact in a match.

 

 

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