2,894 [HINON] Doomlock [HINON] Wiki Lead, Beta Testers, Privateers 6,801 posts 5,248 battles Report post #1 Posted November 7, 2017 Hi guys! So, the stats for the T5 French battleship Bretagne have been put up: She now takes the cake for slowest battleship, though I imagine that since this is stock, there may be an engine upgrade. Still she looks decent, that HE shell velocity though, wow. Credit goes to @renegadestatuz Fair winds and following seas captains! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
173 [COB45] skull_122_steel Members 1,011 posts 3,472 battles Report post #2 Posted November 7, 2017 didn't you post this yesterday Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
256 AyanoMidori Members 480 posts 4,737 battles Report post #3 Posted November 7, 2017 Still better than New York. Anything is Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
903 anonym_OlK73e329bMY Members 3,284 posts Report post #4 Posted November 7, 2017 Slowest? Synergizes with my style of sailing directly at the enemy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,478 [HINON] renegadestatuz Members 7,656 posts 9,539 battles Report post #5 Posted November 7, 2017 1 minute ago, skull_122_steel said: didn't you post this yesterday Yesterday was posting the confirmation of her at 5. These are the stats for her, which were just released. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
173 [COB45] skull_122_steel Members 1,011 posts 3,472 battles Report post #6 Posted November 7, 2017 Just now, renegadestatuz said: Yesterday was posting the confirmation of her at 5. These are the stats for her, which were just released. ok Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,094 [LRM] AphelionMarauder [LRM] Members 3,004 posts 13,225 battles Report post #7 Posted November 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, AyanoMidori said: Still better than New York. Anything is You are not doing it right. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,347 Chaos_EN2 ∞ Members 4,203 posts Report post #8 Posted November 7, 2017 7 minutes ago, Doomlock said: She now takes the cake for slowest battleship, though I imagine that since this is stock, there may be an engine upgrade. Maximum speed - 19.9 kt, that is almost "break out the oars, Boys!" speed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,791 [HINON] dseehafer Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 8,856 posts 3,680 battles Report post #9 Posted November 7, 2017 9 minutes ago, Doomlock said: She now takes the cake for slowest battleship Mikasa is slower at 18kn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
173 [COB45] skull_122_steel Members 1,011 posts 3,472 battles Report post #10 Posted November 7, 2017 3 minutes ago, AyanoMidori said: Still better than New York. Anything is you must not be doing it right ether that or you watch to much Flamu she has the heaviest broadside at her tier and the second best range Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,889 [HINON] Phoenix_jz Members 7,797 posts 2,144 battles Report post #11 Posted November 7, 2017 10% TDS... she's got weaker TDS than Algérie and Abruzzi XD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,791 [HINON] dseehafer Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 8,856 posts 3,680 battles Report post #12 Posted November 7, 2017 4 minutes ago, Battleship_MaineMk1 said: You are not doing it right. Dude, NY is dead last in WR among all t5 BBs and is also dead last among all t5 BBs in average damage per battle too. When the entire player base isn't "doing it right" maybe it's not the players, maybe its the ship. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,094 [LRM] AphelionMarauder [LRM] Members 3,004 posts 13,225 battles Report post #13 Posted November 7, 2017 Just now, dseehafer said: Dude, NY is dead last in WR among all t5 BBs and is also dead last among all t5 BBs in average damage per battle too. When the entire player base isn't "doing it right" maybe it's not the players, maybe its the ship. I got my first kraken in her. It is more like people don't give a crap to learn it. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,791 [HINON] dseehafer Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 8,856 posts 3,680 battles Report post #14 Posted November 7, 2017 4 minutes ago, skull_122_steel said: you must not be doing it right ether that or you watch to much Flamu she has the heaviest broadside at her tier and the second best range She's also slow, has terrible armor, and is tied with Wyoming for the worst secondary broadside among battleships in-game... to balance out her firepower and range. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,094 [LRM] AphelionMarauder [LRM] Members 3,004 posts 13,225 battles Report post #15 Posted November 7, 2017 1 minute ago, dseehafer said: She's also slow, has terrible armor, and is tied with Wyoming for the worst secondary broadside among battleships in-game... to balance out her firepower and range. I am going to let you have your "opinion". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,791 [HINON] dseehafer Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 8,856 posts 3,680 battles Report post #16 Posted November 7, 2017 1 minute ago, Battleship_MaineMk1 said: I got my first kraken in her. It is more like people don't give a crap to learn it. See that's just it, you shouldn't have to "learn" a ship to do well in it. A good ship (or even one that doesn't suck) doesn't require learning. As long as you have in-game experience, you should be able to pick it up and do reasonably well in it. There's no sense in trying to "learn" a tier 5 battleship if you're just going to sell it once you get to tier 6 anyways (like most people do). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
173 [COB45] skull_122_steel Members 1,011 posts 3,472 battles Report post #17 Posted November 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, dseehafer said: She's also slow, has terrible armor, and is tied with Wyoming for the worst secondary broadside among battleships in-game... to balance out her firepower and range. so she has weaknesses to make her not OP so she is under powered? you get up close and use her firepower sure she can use some help but she is not a bad ship Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,791 [HINON] dseehafer Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 8,856 posts 3,680 battles Report post #18 Posted November 7, 2017 1 minute ago, Battleship_MaineMk1 said: I am going to let you have your "opinion". Which of those statements was opinion? She's slow? Nope, that's a fact. She has terrible armor? Nope, that's also a fact (under 300mm of belt armor and no turtleback, above-water citadel). She has the worst battleship secondary broadside (with Wyoming) in-game? Nope, that's also a fact. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
173 [COB45] skull_122_steel Members 1,011 posts 3,472 battles Report post #19 Posted November 7, 2017 1 minute ago, dseehafer said: See that's just it, you shouldn't have to "learn" a ship to do well in it. A good ship (or even one that doesn't suck) doesn't require learning. As long as you have in-game experience, you should be able to pick it up and do reasonably well in it. There's no sense in trying to "learn" a tier 5 battleship if you're just going to sell it once you get to tier 6 anyways (like most people do). that make no sense what so ever you should have to learn how to play a ship to do well in it not everything needs to be a Nikoli or a Sipan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,791 [HINON] dseehafer Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 8,856 posts 3,680 battles Report post #20 Posted November 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, skull_122_steel said: so she has weaknesses to make her not OP so she is under powered? you get up close and use her firepower sure she can use some help but she is not a bad ship Her performance across all serves suggests otherwise. I never said that you cant do well in her, just that it's harder to do well in her than literally any other tier 5 battleship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,094 [LRM] AphelionMarauder [LRM] Members 3,004 posts 13,225 battles Report post #21 Posted November 7, 2017 Just now, dseehafer said: Which of those statements was opinion? She's slow? Nope, that's a fact. She has terrible armor? Nope, that's also a fact (under 300mm of belt armor and no turtleback, above-water citadel). She has the worst battleship secondary broadside (with Wyoming) in-game? Nope, that's also a fact. The conclusion is what comes down to being opinion. The game should have skill.Coupled with the normal "pick up and play". Back to the main point here, this new bb will be on par with the New York, but there is no reason for it to be a bad thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,791 [HINON] dseehafer Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 8,856 posts 3,680 battles Report post #22 Posted November 7, 2017 3 minutes ago, skull_122_steel said: that make no sense what so ever you should have to learn how to play a ship to do well in it not everything needs to be a Nikoli or a Sipan It makes plenty of sense. You should be able to pick up a tier 5 BB and do at least average damage. Yes, you have to learn a ship to get really good in it, but you should not have to learn a ship to win games and do average-tier damage. In either event, any adjustments/learning should happen quickly. Obviously, people aren't adjusting to/learning NY quick enough. You should learn any quirks and playstyles a ship might have in the first couple of games, it should not take you until you are ready to research NM to finally get the hang of NY. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,894 [HINON] Doomlock [HINON] Wiki Lead, Beta Testers, Privateers 6,801 posts 5,248 battles Report post #23 Posted November 7, 2017 30 minutes ago, dseehafer said: Mikasa is slower at 18kn. Shh....I meant to say at tier... Also, stock SC is the slowest at 15.8 knots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,023 [HINON] Fog_Repair_Ship_Akashi Alpha Tester 3,666 posts 8,087 battles Report post #24 Posted November 7, 2017 1 minute ago, Doomlock said: Shh....I meant to say at tier... Also, stock SC is the slowest at 15.8 knots. Uh no @Doomlock the slowest ship in the game is the USS Langley at 15 knots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,791 [HINON] dseehafer Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 8,856 posts 3,680 battles Report post #25 Posted November 7, 2017 1 minute ago, Fog_Repair_Ship_Akashi said: Uh no @Doomlock the slowest ship in the game is the USS Langley at 15 knots. He specifically said "battleship" And it's not "USS Langley" its just "Langley". For all we know Langley in-game may not even be modeled after the actual USS Langley. Just like how our Wyoming is actually modeled after Arkansas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites