204 [R-R-R] Exciton8964 Members 1,069 posts 11,452 battles Report post #1 Posted October 30, 2017 (edited) I just finished my Monarch grind this weekend and found it a very enjoyable experience with this ship. On paper, she ship looks mediocre with lowest health pool at T8, no super heal, low range and so-so speed. However, what makes the ship shine is the amazing concealment at 10.9km. After 27 games, I achieved 81% winrate and 107k average damage. My K/D ratio is an astounding 19.33. Other battleships I like mostly only have K/D at around 4. Of course there is some luck involved but it shows how good the ship is at both killing and staying alive. The gameplay of the ship focuses on taking advantage of the 10.9km concealment. You can push very close to surprise enemy cruisers and DDs. You can flank to an unexpected position w/o being spotted. You can also take on any other BB 1v1 other than maybe Conq, Lion. I have been able to make enemy Montana or GK quite frustrated with my popping in and out of concealment style. Both AP and HE on the ship guns are decent. The 380mm AP shell doesn't have very strong penetration but with short fuse time, you can do a lot of damage by aiming at superstructure and upper hull. The HE is not OP like Lion or Conq's. But the alpha and fire chance is still higher than Montana's. So it is nothing to be looked over. The only tricky adversary for this ship are T8-10 German cruisers and T9-10 US cruisers. They have 27mm bow/stern armor that bounces your 380mm shells. So use your concealment to get out of their HE spam. Defensively, the ship armor is very reliable. Unlike NC, you don't have to angle so sharply to avoid large penetration damage. Since HP pool is on the low side, you don't want to play as a tank most of the time. I have seen some negative comments on this ship before so I think many players haven't figured out how to take advantage of her concealment yet. You want to drive creatively. Make sure every engagement is in your favor by moving into superior position with your great concealment. Edited October 30, 2017 by Exciton8964 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,740 [SPTR] Rolkatsuki Members 28,237 posts 21,928 battles Report post #2 Posted October 30, 2017 Im currently grinding my Lion I got its concealment down to around 11ish km and it does really help when you need to break contact to heal or weight till the enemy fired his guns elsewhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,523 Stauffenberg44 Members 4,335 posts 10,762 battles Report post #3 Posted October 30, 2017 Good for you. Monarch for myself was the one British BB I gladly got rid of. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
448 [RCNW3] Panzer1113 Members 2,010 posts 27,630 battles Report post #4 Posted October 30, 2017 great job getting though so quickly, I am doing my Monarch grind, and took awhile to get the ship upgraded with the +50K stock hull grind, and the almost 40K on the range and speed. Had to get 90K of experience just to get the ship upgraded. Is pretty decent now, but have 170K more experience to get to Lion...Like the concealment, very competitive when high, somewhat on middle, but when low tier can be a bit of a struggle... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
204 [R-R-R] Exciton8964 Members 1,069 posts 11,452 battles Report post #5 Posted October 30, 2017 15 minutes ago, Panzer1113 said: great job getting though so quickly, I am doing my Monarch grind, and took awhile to get the ship upgraded with the +50K stock hull grind, and the almost 40K on the range and speed. Had to get 90K of experience just to get the ship upgraded. Is pretty decent now, but have 170K more experience to get to Lion...Like the concealment, very competitive when high, somewhat on middle, but when low tier can be a bit of a struggle... Yeah, BBs always struggle when being lower tier. Luckily, this ship can still play her trick with good concealment + HE. So you simply don't have to commit to unfavorable fight. I do free exp through the stock config on most of my ships. Never used free exp for skipping ships, only for skipping stock which is the most painful part of the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
134 TheOssifrage Members 848 posts 7,257 battles Report post #6 Posted October 30, 2017 Congrats! To be honest, I'm not enjoying my Monarch after the KGV. The Monarch's guns just doesn't seem to penetrate with AP or do anything meaningful with HE. RNG, I guess, but I'm looking forward to the HMS Lion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,043 [SALTY] Ace_04 Members 8,932 posts 18,332 battles Report post #7 Posted October 30, 2017 30 minutes ago, Exciton8964 said: I do free exp through the stock config on most of my ships. Never used free exp for skipping ships, only for skipping stock which is the most painful part of the game. Agreed. Friends don't let friends sail stock ships. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
915 [--V--] SeaborneSumo Members 1,602 posts 14,841 battles Report post #8 Posted October 30, 2017 Loving my Monarch grind. Aside from Tirpitz and Grober Kurfurst, she is my favorite BB so far. Working on getting another 19 pt captain in her during this grind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,153 [ARGSY] centarina Members 10,326 posts 16,228 battles Report post #9 Posted October 30, 2017 monarch is a decent bote, I did a slow stock grind and now have it fully upgraded. avg is slowly going up as well. it doesn't alpha strike, but can do consistent 10k+ dmg hits on other BBs well. gud bote overall. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
24 [HATE] IronSoldier Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 99 posts 7,496 battles Report post #10 Posted November 3, 2017 I don't know how anyone can like the Monarch... it's a BB with high concealment and terrible fire control. Good at surviving but not much else, no superheal... HE chance is not great, not many guns. I would literally take any other tier 8 BB, premium or none than this POS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
204 [R-R-R] Exciton8964 Members 1,069 posts 11,452 battles Report post #11 Posted November 3, 2017 (edited) 7 hours ago, IronSoldier said: I don't know how anyone can like the Monarch... it's a BB with high concealment and terrible fire control. Good at surviving but not much else, no superheal... HE chance is not great, not many guns. I would literally take any other tier 8 BB, premium or none than this POS. Her HE is stronger than T10 Montana and I use HE a lot in Montana. So I think her HE is quite strong, just not OP level like some other RN BBs. Her AP is better then German 380mm and the reload is fast at 25 sec. It is enough to hurt any broadside target. And numbers don't lie. I have 85-90k average damage in my NC and Bismarck but have 107k average damage in this ship. Edited November 3, 2017 by Exciton8964 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
222 [JSRF] commodore_torakula Members 1,652 posts 13,792 battles Report post #12 Posted November 3, 2017 On 10/30/2017 at 10:43 AM, centarina said: monarch is a decent bote, I did a slow stock grind and now have it fully upgraded. avg is slowly going up as well. it doesn't alpha strike, but can do consistent 10k+ dmg hits on other BBs well. gud bote overall. ..... sold....I've been wondering if it's worth all the fxp....but I love new ships, so I'll try... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
448 [RCNW3] Panzer1113 Members 2,010 posts 27,630 battles Report post #13 Posted November 6, 2017 Have about 100k left on the grind, MM has not been kind lately, can't seem to get a win with it ( one day seven straight losses). Lots of up tier games, I am doing about average damage with the ship, but have just been on awful teams. Very difficult ship to carry hard on, dispersion on the AP limits damage here, and some games struggled with lighting fires ( get a first, but can't get a second once target used repair). So far my least favorite RN BB, but I guess every one can not be a winner. Will gladly sell this when the grind is over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
