4 azgoodaz Beta Testers 14 posts 143 battles Report post #1 Posted October 27, 2017 (edited) * More of a petition than a poll. * Quote Q Will I be able to use my Wargaming.net account? A: Unfortunately, not. World of Warships wasn’t initially designed as a cross-platform project. That means that if you've played the game already you would want to keep using the original client. If you log in using Steam, you automatically create a new game account, which binds to your Steam account. Important note: all updates to the game installed using Steam client will also be downloaded and installed through Steam. Same is true for the original client: you can not update a Game Center or launcher installation through Steam and vice versa. Source: https://steamcommunity.com/app/552990/discussions/0/1480982338949306284/ On November, 15th, World of Warships will be available on the Steam. But WG doesn't want to allow Steam integration. Store: http://store.steampowered.com/app/552990 Note: For the people asking, you aren't forced to play on Steam, it's optional (ex, like playing Ubisoft games on Steam). You can still use the WG client as normal how you've been playing before. This feature will improve and grow the existing community. ------- Edit 1) Over 200 people think WG needs this feature to be implemented. - Edited October 27, 2017 by azgoodaz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
409 YeOldeTraveller Members 1,853 posts 13,940 battles Report post #2 Posted October 27, 2017 This will be great for new players. Anyone with any significant assets in game will not appreciate having to start over from scratch. With that said, I would switch immediately if I could play WoWS on Linux through Steam, and that was the only way to do that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
39,481 [HINON] Lert Alpha Tester 27,858 posts 27,302 battles Report post #3 Posted October 27, 2017 It's very likely a matter of them not being able to integrate the two databases rather than them not wanting to. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
86 SailorDeadpool1XPOIXKita Alpha Tester 1,275 posts 5,789 battles Report post #4 Posted October 27, 2017 it be like let use the xbox live system... or playstation system.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,298 [A-D-F] alexf24 Members 7,879 posts 44,788 battles Report post #5 Posted October 27, 2017 (edited) Steam: Methinks a new influx of players. hopefully massive, so someday we can get a -1/+1 MM due to having enough population Bonus: lots of fresh seals Minus: if you thought the chat was toxic, grab a hold of something. Edited October 29, 2017 by alexf24 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4 lShiinl Members 20 posts 1,018 battles Report post #6 Posted October 27, 2017 Definitely Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
420 [S0L0] missile742 Beta Testers 931 posts 9,201 battles Report post #7 Posted October 27, 2017 I think most are overestimating the pop surge. WoWS has been out for over two years with fairly heavy advertising. Maybe there is a large group of gamers / naval warfare enthusiasts who have been waiting for Steam support, but I doubt it. Think we will see an influx of transient play for free types and some of them may stick around. Don’t see any downside to gameplay here especially if u like to play low tiers. My Konig Al, Beta, and Imp are ready. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
409 YeOldeTraveller Members 1,853 posts 13,940 battles Report post #8 Posted October 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Lert said: It's very likely a matter of them not being able to integrate the two databases rather than them not wanting to. I expect you are correct and the effort can be very non-trivial. I don't really see much demand for existing players to use Steam, so this is really a low priority issue. To the point of Not Worth the Effort with everything else going on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
39,481 [HINON] Lert Alpha Tester 27,858 posts 27,302 battles Report post #9 Posted October 27, 2017 1 minute ago, YeOldeTraveller said: To the point of Not Worth the Effort with everything else going on. Effort and / or risk, any time you start fudging with databases like that there's a risk of things going catastrophically wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
17,819 [PVE] AdmiralThunder Members 17,094 posts 41,137 battles Report post #10 Posted October 27, 2017 Interesting poll. Sort of a predetermined "positive" outcome. How about adding No, I do not like or wish to use Steam? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
846 [LOU1] ExploratorOne Members 4,373 posts 15,290 battles Report post #11 Posted October 27, 2017 (edited) Flawed poll: there is no "No" option, the survey seems to have only one answer, "Yes". I am fine with WOWS being on Steam, as long as I do not have to run Steam in order to play WOWS. On all of the machines in our house, running Steam has an impact on PC performance. Edited October 27, 2017 by ExploratorOne Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4 azgoodaz Beta Testers 14 posts 143 battles Report post #12 Posted October 27, 2017 (edited) 42 minutes ago, ExploratorOne said: I am fine with WOWS being on Steam, as long as I do not have to run Steam in order to play WOWS. 43 minutes ago, AdmiralThunder said: I do not like or wish to use Steam? You aren't forced to use Steam. You can still use the WG client as normal how you've been playing before. 42 minutes ago, ExploratorOne said: Flawed poll: there is no "No" option, the survey seems to have only one answer, "Yes". I am fine with WOWS being on Steam, as long as I do not have to run Steam in order to play WOWS. On all of the machines in our house, running Steam has an impact on PC performance. 43 minutes ago, AdmiralThunder said: Interesting poll. Sort of a predetermined "positive" outcome. How about adding No, I do not like or wish to use Steam? I didn't add a "No" because people like you would have voted 'No' because you don't know what I was talking about. You thought it was a survey to only use Steam. Edited October 27, 2017 by azgoodaz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
846 [LOU1] ExploratorOne Members 4,373 posts 15,290 battles Report post #13 Posted October 27, 2017 A flawed survey is one that is written to control the answers received and skew the results, which is what you said you want to do. If a surveyor is concerned about misunderstanding, that shows a need to rephrase the question. That is why people take courses to study polling techniques. Personally, I would suggest you do is add the options: Yes, as long as running Steam is optional. No, even if running Steam is optional Without unbiased options, this is more of a petition than a poll - and a petition would be fine to run. Petitions are designed to gather a list of people who agree with you. Polls are to gather the actual opinions of the survey population, whether they agree or don't agree. I still would have said no because others would have to use it. If you follow the forums, it becomes apparent that many players have problems with the launcher and/or updater affecting their game play. I was part of the beta testing for those and had no issue with them over a few months - but others do experience a performance issue. That is a program designed by WG that they desperately want to work well and it still causes issues for some players. Steam places a load on a PC and I frequently find that quitting Steam resolves a user's performance issues. Would hate for WOWS to get a reputation for being a glitchy game with inaccurate play and frequent crashes. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4 azgoodaz Beta Testers 14 posts 143 battles Report post #14 Posted October 27, 2017 (edited) 22 minutes ago, ExploratorOne said: I still would have said no because others would have to use it. If you follow the forums, it becomes apparent that many players have problems with the launcher and/or updater affecting their game play. 22 minutes ago, ExploratorOne said: Yes, as long as running Steam is optional. No, even if running Steam is optional You're either confused or didn't even read the Steam FAQ of the game at all. 22 minutes ago, ExploratorOne said: Without unbiased options, this is more of a petition than a poll - and a petition would be fine to run. Petitions are designed to gather a list of people who agree with you. Polls are to gather the actual opinions of the survey population, whether they agree or don't agree. Sadly, forums can't create a petition. 22 minutes ago, ExploratorOne said: That is a program designed by WG that they desperately want to work well and it still causes issues for some players. Steam places a load on a PC and I frequently find that quitting Steam resolves a user's performance issues. I never have this issue. Your PC must be out of date, you have a virus or must be playing on a laptop. You're apart of a 0.01% probably. Edited October 27, 2017 by azgoodaz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2 SgtGrayarrow ∞ Members 2 posts 7,825 battles Report post #15 Posted October 28, 2017 I'm not to sure of your percentage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
32 [SYN] Pacific_Cruiser1942 [SYN] Members 236 posts 6,658 battles Report post #16 Posted October 28, 2017 7 hours ago, alexf24 said: Steam: Methinks a new influx of players. hopefully massive, so someday we can get a -1/+1 MM due to having enough population Bonus: lots of fresh seals Minus: if you though the chat was toxic, grab a hold of something. I agree wholeheartedly. +1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,298 [A-D-F] alexf24 Members 7,879 posts 44,788 battles Report post #17 Posted October 28, 2017 5 hours ago, ExploratorOne said: Flawed poll: there is no "No" option, the survey seems to have only one answer, "Yes". I am fine with WOWS being on Steam, as long as I do not have to run Steam in order to play WOWS. On all of the machines in our house, running Steam has an impact on PC performance. I agree on this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,562 [SYN] Kapitan_Wuff Members 8,292 posts 14,496 battles Report post #18 Posted October 28, 2017 8 hours ago, alexf24 said: Minus: if you though the chat was toxic, grab a hold of something. So I imagine I am being very naive in asking... but why do you assume the steam release will increase toxic chat? Just by virtue of more people equals more toxicity or is the steam crowd particularly bad or something? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,298 [A-D-F] alexf24 Members 7,879 posts 44,788 battles Report post #19 Posted October 28, 2017 6 minutes ago, Kapitan_Wuff said: So I imagine I am being very naive in asking... but why do you assume the steam release will increase toxic chat? Just by virtue of more people equals more toxicity or is the steam crowd particularly bad or something? No. Steam crowd is mostly younger people. Kid's behavior unfortunately does not inspire my confidence. We'll see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7,521 [HINON] RipNuN2 Members 14,340 posts Report post #20 Posted October 28, 2017 (edited) 16 hours ago, alexf24 said: No. Steam crowd is mostly younger people. Kid's behavior unfortunately does not inspire my confidence. We'll see. Likely not as young as you think. I cant recall finding steam specific results, but a study from a few years ago showed an average age of 38 for gamers. I wouldnt be surprised if steam's demographic is not much different due to its market penetration. Edited October 28, 2017 by RipNuN2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,017 [CREDO] Spud_butt Members 2,500 posts 9,672 battles Report post #21 Posted October 28, 2017 steam has it's problems, WG has it's problems, and you actually want the two combined? no, god no, please, no. utterly, no. not yes, the alternate yes, no. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
17,819 [PVE] AdmiralThunder Members 17,094 posts 41,137 battles Report post #22 Posted October 28, 2017 (edited) 23 hours ago, azgoodaz said: You're either confused or didn't even read the Steam FAQ of the game at all. Sadly, forums can't create a petition. I never have this issue. Your PC must be out of date, you have a virus or must be playing on a laptop. You're apart of a 0.01% probably. Well, I agree 100% with the other poster you are addressing above and it is why I don't want anything to do with Steam. Not only is the Customer Service the absolute worst I have ever dealt with (I had a lot of problems with 2 games trying to run them through Steam - was a Steam issue not game issue - they were zero help, rude, nasty, and had no clue - I will not use a game now if it requires Steam). My PC is not out of date at all just FYI as you seem to think that is the reason someone would have issues with Steam. Actually it is fairly new and powerful yet I had nothing but trouble with the Steam client. This is actually a big complaint about Steam and shows your lack of knowledge on issues with it. I don't mean that nasty either even though it does sound that way. Just a statement of fact. Do a search for Steam Sucks and sit back and read the long list of complaints about it. On 10/27/2017 at 5:18 PM, azgoodaz said: You aren't forced to use Steam. You can still use the WG client as normal how you've been playing before. I didn't add a "No" because people like you would have voted 'No' because you don't know what I was talking about. You thought it was a survey to only use Steam. No, I understood completely what you were asking and knew I do not have to use them. You misunderstand us I think not the other way around. I still feel No needs to be included or at the least you have to be prepared for people to post as some of us have saying no we do not want Steam account integration with our WOWS accounts. I like how they are doing it. I am serious if they had forced Steam on me I would have quit. I can see people such as yourself who like Steam wanting to integrate it with your WOWS account but that does not mean everyone shares your view. On 10/27/2017 at 2:49 PM, azgoodaz said: Edit 1) Over 200 people think WG needs this feature to be implemented. - I mean no disrespect to you sir but this means nothing because your "poll" only has positive choices. Had you added no we do not want to have Steam integration with our WOWS accounts I can assure you there would be many no's. Probably more yes but still some no. So saying 200 people said yes doesn't mean much especially since only 30 people voted in your poll LOL. How you get over 200 is beyond me. Best of luck to you with your Steam poll or petition or whatever it is. Edited October 28, 2017 by AdmiralThunder Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1 [GRENS] topcatone Members 7 posts 6,808 battles Report post #23 Posted October 29, 2017 (edited) On 10/27/2017 at 3:54 PM, YeOldeTraveller said: I expect you are correct and the effort can be very non-trivial. I don't really see much demand for existing players to use Steam, so this is really a low priority issue. To the point of Not Worth the Effort with everything else going on. i have imported the wargaming.net to my account there are game out there they are not cross plat form games on steam all that has to be dun is the leaving in the login client there using the same servers as the wargaming anyway but there trying to skip the login by being in the steam Edited October 29, 2017 by topcatone Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
200 [-YK-] Malarkey_ Supertest Coordinator, Alpha Tester 360 posts 11,923 battles Report post #24 Posted October 29, 2017 On 10/27/2017 at 1:25 PM, alexf24 said: Steam: Methinks a new influx of players. hopefully massive, so someday we can get a -1/+1 MM due to having enough population Bonus: lots of fresh seals Minus: if you though the chat was toxic, grab a hold of something. So true... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4 Gantradies Beta Testers 43 posts 3,876 battles Report post #25 Posted November 11, 2017 i genuinely dont get this. this is literally No reason to NOT have integration at least as an option. i mean an actual reason, not WG's typical excuses. i mean, if they were at least admitting they didn't want to BOTHER with the extra code, at least they'd be honest... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
