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It's not going to be an enemy torpedo that kills me here. See that Gearing right behind me? There are two more spreads of "friendly" torpedoes right behind me too. Where is the enemy DD you might ask? Well, it was killed some time ago.

 

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Gearing Torpedo is 16.5 km (sorry DD in B, didn't see the one in C).   Go ahead blame the Gearing for you getting hit by the enemy Torpedoes.  It happens.  Guessing the DD was capping before it was killed.  

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Idiots abound.

You would think that a T10 DD driver would know better.

 

BTW, I have torped a friendly way back by mistake, at T5.

I have never torped a friendly at T10 or even at T7+

Learned my lesson.

 

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3 minutes ago, alexf24 said:

Idiots abound.

You would think that a T10 DD driver would know better...

You weren't in the match so you don't know what was happening.  Oh, is he aiming at the BB behind the island? Or he launched as the DD was killed. Keep your head on a swivel.  

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5 minutes ago, alexf24 said:

Idiots abound.

You would think that a T10 DD driver would know better.

 

BTW, I have torped a friendly way back by mistake, at T5.

I have never torped a friendly at T10 or even at T7+

Learned my lesson.

 

craphappens man. People make mistakes including myself. I had torped a friendly GK a while back because I thought he was gonna die to a BB. So I took the risk and wanted to try and save him.

 

He lasted a lot longer then I thought and the target in question sunk from sustained fire. Our friendly GK lived to fight another day until my torpedo spread unfortunately sunk him. I apologized and got pink for my mistake. 

 

Sometimes you gotta make a risky play. You balance the pro's and cons and you make a decision. 

 

Often you save someone , you take out a ship that had you just auto decided not to put any risk behind your decision well that friendly would not be alive. 

 

Sometimes you make mistakes, and you end up torping a friendly. Apologize and move on. It happens in real life, it happens in game, clearly in this case it was a mistake. But most likely not one that cost them the game (They are up 4 ships). 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Nachoo31 said:

Gearing Torpedo is 16.5 km (sorry DD in B, didn't see the one in C).   Go ahead blame the Gearing for you getting hit by the enemy Torpedoes.  It happens.  Guessing the DD was capping before it was killed.  

 

I dodged every torpedo you see here. It was the torpedoes fired by the "friendly" right behind me that got me. That enemy torpedo spread in front of me was fired at the DD immediately behind me, who has just returned fire. Unfortunately for me, I'm the only thing for those "friendly" torpedoes to hit.

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It's the fault of the one launching torps behind a friendly. Saying that your team mates need to keep their head on a swivel because of reckless team mates is wrong. They have to react to and engage the enemy in front of them and watch reckless team mates behind them. LOL

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Poo-poo occurs. People get target-fixated and zoomed in, and then mistakes are made.

My father had to abandon his US ship in WW2 when it took a "friendly" torp from a USN SS. so it is not like this kind of thing is impossible.

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1 minute ago, jager_geist said:

It's the fault of the one launching torps behind a friendly. Saying that your team mates need to keep their head on a swivel because of reckless team mates is wrong. They have to react to and engage the enemy in front of them and watch reckless team mates behind them. LOL

I can't remember the last time I torped a friendly in a DD. I always check my surroundings, and hold fire even if there is a slight chance of nailing a friendly.

It is on the DD driver to make sure that a volley doesn't get a friendly . . . period.

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26 minutes ago, SmirkingGerbil said:

I can't remember the last time I torped a friendly in a DD. I always check my surroundings, and hold fire even if there is a slight chance of nailing a friendly.

It is on the DD driver to make sure that a volley doesn't get a friendly . . . period.

Yeah, that's what I said. Whether DD or a CA, anything with torps. Launching them behind a team mate can be reckless.  It's been a long time since I hit team mate with a torp.

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I'm not ashamed to admit that I have fired more than my fair share of torpedoes that have hit friendlies. Not ashamed, but aware that I need to improve. 

 

In all cases, not a single torpedo was ever launched in what I would have called a "risky" move. That is, I have never intentionally put a friendly at risk. In all cases, the bad shot was a result of lack of information (meaning I did not fully see and comprehend all the information available to me). It's a failure of situational awareness. 

 

It does happen, even to the best of us.

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1 hour ago, alexf24 said:

Idiots abound.

You would think that a T10 DD driver would know better.

 

BTW, I have torped a friendly way back by mistake, at T5.

I have never torped a friendly at T10 or even at T7+

Learned my lesson.

 

I have accidentally torped a friendly at high tiers, in an IJN DD with 20 km torps (pre nerf).  I think that it was in the Kagero when it was tier 9.  I sent torps down range at some enemy.  There was no one between us, and no one on screen even close.  BUT ... It turned out that there was this team mate in a Shimmy who was like 15 km away from me to my left who was heading on what turned out to be an intercept course with my torps.

I saw him within seconds of launching my torps, and started yelling in chat for him to watch out for my torpedoes.  Team mates were doing the same thing.  The idiot never once turned or changed speed.  And it must have taken a good minute for my torps to finaly intercept his course and hit/kill him.  SO what does he do?  He starts ranting at me.  Well, turned out that my entire team turned on him and told him that he was an idiot because we'd been warning him for almost a minute before he was hit.

 

The lesson is that usually it's your fault, but sometimes it really is the fault of the team mate for doing something incredibly stupid. 

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5 minutes ago, DingBat said:

I'm not ashamed to admit that I have fired more than my fair share of torpedoes that have hit friendlies. Not ashamed, but aware that I need to improve. 

 

In all cases, not a single torpedo was ever launched in what I would have called a "risky" move. That is, I have never intentionally put a friendly at risk. In all cases, the bad shot was a result of lack of information (meaning I did not fully see and comprehend all the information available to me). It's a failure of situational awareness. 

 

It does happen, even to the best of us.

I will admit that I have intentionally targeted a friendly with my torps, but not for a couple of years.  

I very accidentally TK'd a team mate in my Sims (the team mate was in a Scharnhorst) with torps a week ago or so.  I fired my torps a good ship length behind the Scharnhorst, thinking that I'd made a perfectly safe and sound decision.  And then a little while later, I hear the sound effect you get when you've TK'd someone.  And I'm going, what the heck just happened?  I apologized to the team mate (who was very gracious about it) and told him that I'd fired well behind him and had no idea what happened.  (I wasn't watching the torps after they were launched.  I was watching an enemy DD that I was engaging, who had been the intended target of the torps.)

After the battle, I sent a PM to the team mate and learned what had happened.  He had made a 180* turn, not realizing that my torps had been fired behind him, and turned right into them.  We both apologized, and that was that.

Personally, I think that his mistake wasn't exactly that he did the 180* turn, but that he didn't just keep on moving forward and let me and my Sims deal with the enemy DD, a Blys, that was on his tail (which I did do, BTW).  Arguably, that was his failure of Sit Awareness, not realizing that I was there to help him and to let me do it while he kept going and gave me room to take out the enemy DD.

Regardless, craphappens.  And IMO, people need to be a little more understanding of that fact.

 

 

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TK's happen, currently pink for firing off last HE rounds before switching to AP against close in Leander, our Phoenix ran right along side of me going for same target and caught shells and burned up.  We both apologized.

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