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A rant against many BB players from another BB player

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Too many BB players seem to be too afraid to jump into action. They are often selfish too allowing allies to take hits while they stay back.This kind of behavior is hurting the team.

I don't get it why the majority if timid people play battleships.  If you want it safe play with dolls. How dangerous can this game be? It's just a pixel naval battle....

 

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Sure in a more realistic setting playing with prudence pays off for BB players but in this game we neither have the time due to the time limit nor the realism to play the way BBs are supposed to be played....

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Works both ways....I dont have an issue driving to a cap as long as I have support. Too many times the DD and CL want to abandon the BB driver and if that ship is slow...well...we know what happens then

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Do you know how often that I see cruisers and destroyers screwing around in the middle of nowhere, contributing nothing to the team? Literally every other match. Do you know how many outraged topics that I've made about it? Zero. Get better yourself, or go play in a division. We don't need anymore of this class [edited] on these forums.  

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Oh tell us about it.

You are pushing a cap in your BB--it's a tough job but someone has to do it right? You are taking focus fire but tanking it well. Then...

You look behind to see various friendly BBs and CA kiting away from the cap worried about maybe getting hit. Not supporting any sort of push.

"Hey guys/gals heard of caps? Capturing them helps you win!"

Over and over and over. Once I see the match is a goner with these querulous schlubs I yolo in to score hits.... and to get the feck off that team asap.

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15 minutes ago, Daechi said:

Works both ways....I dont have an issue driving to a cap as long as I have support. Too many times the DD and CL want to abandon the BB driver and if that ship is slow...well...we know what happens then

Happens all the time. Use to piss me off when driving my GK. I get up there to get my secondaries to support and they bail. I end up dead and they live on, so now I go up and wait until the cap is taken but sometime they still bail I take lots of damage to get out of a battle I am over matched

 

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I've found a scary trend as of late, where Cruisers and DD's are the ones skirting the edges of the maps trying to snipe when the BB's are moving in on the caps. (granted this is mixed in with the usual lemming trains...but thats pretty much a given most times)

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It's really situational, like I move to support a cap and then as the minimap lights up I realize in my BB that we are outnumbered more than 2 to 1 as the enemy pushes the cap, so I kite away from the cap as it's a lost cause without reinforcements, meanwhile the 1 DD and cruiser there overextended or yoloed right into the mass of enemies and die. 

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53 minutes ago, Daechi said:

Works both ways....I dont have an issue driving to a cap as long as I have support. Too many times the DD and CL want to abandon the BB driver and if that ship is slow...well...we know what happens then

 

If a BB pushes a cap support me when I’m in my DD and then starts taking focus fire, I’ll try make a smoke cloud big enough so he can turn. Then I’ll move up, launch some torps to try and halt the enemy chase (if they are chasing) and take a few shots at the enemy. It’s surprising (not) how many will quickly train their guns on me then. I’ll then make a dash for the smoke and disappear. Hopefully the BB will have turned and is on his way outta there. With the smoke changes it makes it a little harder but I’ve saved my fair share of BB’s this way! Team game after all!

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1 minute ago, Bravo4zero said:

 

If a BB pushes a cap support me when I’m in my DD and then starts taking focus fire, I’ll try make a smoke cloud big enough so he can turn. Then I’ll move up, launch some torps to try and halt the enemy chase (if they are chasing) and take a few shots at the enemy. It’s surprising (not) how many will quickly train their guns on me then. I’ll then make a dash for the smoke and disappear. Hopefully the BB will have turned and is on his way outta there. With the smoke changes it makes it a little harder but I’ve saved my fair share of BB’s this way! Team game after all!

Excellent! Wish I could be on your team. Guessing  I should have said "some" DD's and CL's. I didnt mean to imply all that play those classes.

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6 minutes ago, Daechi said:

Then I’ll move up, launch some torps to try and halt the enemy chase

Yes nothing like a few torps to make those BBs act like a cat in a room full of rocking chairs.

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I can go right in with any BB - I will also get removed from the game in less than 5 minutes and going very little damage.  Not every BB can just go in and start.  If no one supports the BB then the BB will generally be toast very quickly.

Same thing goes for cruisers - many want cruisers to hunt DDs by being up front ahead of the BBs.  I am playing the French cruisers from BB main and playing up front WILL and DID get me deleted in most of the games I tried before I could even do 5K damage.  The French line is not meant to be played that way.  Just like any ship - they have to be played to their strength.

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Crappy players in all classes of ships.  I should known.  I can be pretty crappy playing cruisers. The only BB players that drive nuts are the back line types that will NOT move until the game is lost....see this a lot. The long range sniper types.  Fearful. Hit nothing.  BUT....I don't play BBs.  Too slow.  Too long reload. Boring for me. Too long everything for my tastes but if you like em play em. I should not even comment cause I don't play em. Forget all I said!  I am waaay outta line here. Heh. :Smile_sad:

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1 hour ago, Daechi said:

Works both ways....I dont have an issue driving to a cap as long as I have support. Too many times the DD and CL want to abandon the BB driver and if that ship is slow...well...we know what happens then

The moment a DD captain hangs back as your escort and doesn't face tank at a capture point within the first two minutes of the game, get ready for some screaming... Its not that we mind escorting you, it's popular expectation.

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2 minutes ago, CylonRed said:

I can go right in with any BB - I will also get removed from the game in less than 5 minutes and going very little damage.  Not every BB can just go in and start.  IF no one supports the BB then the BB will generally be toast very quickly.

Interesting.  I support BBs as much as I can in cruisers. What happens a lot is I get focused fired and deleted cause I, in a cruiser, am the easier kill.  Then they kill the BB I was trying to team with. Yup. Happens a lot. 

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1 minute ago, dmckay said:

Interesting.  I support BBs as much as I can in cruisers. What happens a lot is I get focused fired and deleted cause I, in a cruiser, am the easier kill.  Then they kill the BB I was trying to team with. Yup. Happens a lot. 

As a French captain I have to help further back but try and damage the ships in front and to the side of the ships I support.  If we gain an upper hand then I can move in closer.  I have to do a lot of kiting if I over extend but try and wiggle as much as possible and still deal damage via guns and torps.

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31 minutes ago, Bravo4zero said:

 

 

You are the sort of DD player I love to see on my team as you are playing to help the team win. I give away many of my compliments in game when I see DDs doing what you describe using smoke to save people, and torps to keep the pursuers at bay. This can really help win games especially when you and your teammates need to do a tactical withdrawal in the face of superior forces. 

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Simple answer.. a good share of the people playing this game have no clue what they are doing. They have no idea how to play the map they are on, how to play the ships they are in, have no clue about tactics they should be using or how the mechanics of the game work. So many of those players are either afraid to engage or do the opposite and go blazing in creating a death by suicide. Players who do know what they are doing sometimes will camp, but they know when to camp and when to push. 

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5 minutes ago, CylonRed said:

As a French captain I have to help further back but try and damage the ships in front and to the side of the ships I support.  If we gain an upper hand then I can move in closer.  I have to do a lot of kiting if I over extend but try and wiggle as much as possible and still deal damage via guns and torps.

Ok tks.  LOTTA players will ignore the BB you are running with and shoot and you in a cruiser. They want that easier kill. Poor BB then is all alone.

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1 minute ago, SeaBreeze_ said:

Simple answer.. a good share of the people playing this game have no clue what they are doing. They have no idea how to play the map they are on, how to play the ships they are in, have no clue about tactics they should be using or how the mechanics of the game work. So many of those players are either afraid to engage or do the opposite and go blazing in creating a death by suicide. Players who do know what they are doing sometimes will camp, but they know when to camp and when to push. 

Well for these people the mini map really is a distraction. Show some understanding.

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1 minute ago, SeaBreeze_ said:

Simple answer.. a good share of the people playing this game have no clue what they are doing. They have no idea how to play the map they are on, how to play the ships they are in, have no clue about tactics they should be using or how the mechanics of the game work. So many of those players are either afraid to engage or do the opposite and go blazing in creating a death by suicide. Players who do know what they are doing sometimes will camp, but they know when to camp and when to push. 

Gee whiz wow. Never heard this before!  No idea. You kidding? Do YOU know what you are doing? :Smile_sceptic:

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1 hour ago, LifePilgrim said:

Too many BB players seem to be too afraid to jump into action. They are often selfish too allowing allies to take hits while they stay back.This kind of behavior is hurting the team.

I don't get it why the majority if timid people play battleships.  If you want it safe play with dolls. How dangerous can this game be? It's just a pixel naval battle....

 

Of course, nothing is more annoying than pushing forward in a BB, only to have your team abandon you in the push.  Then you have three options, and none are good.  You can try a hard turn around and pray you are not blasted out of the water while turning and exposing your broadside.  You can try to slowly reverse away, but then again, you're hoping the opposing team finds another target to focus on.  Or you can continue forward, the banzai move to a certain sinking.

So yeah, I don't jump up into the action right away.  I'm not going to take the hits for a CA or DD which runs and hides behind the islands so they can sling HE blindly at enemy ships.  I'm not going to take the hits for a team which abandons me at the first sign of the enemy leaving me all alone.

After several thousand games, I've been burned too often by my teammates.  I have no problem pushing forward, but I won't push forward for a coward team.

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1 hour ago, Daechi said:

Excellent! Wish I could be on your team. Guessing  I should have said "some" DD's and CL's. I didnt mean to imply all that play those classes.

 

No problem mate, I’ve seen it happen both ways but it’s a team game and we’re only gonna win the game playing as a team.

 

30 minutes ago, RipNuN2 said:

 

You are the sort of DD player I love to see on my team as you are playing to help the team win. I give away many of my compliments in game when I see DDs doing what you describe using smoke to save people, and torps to keep the pursuers at bay. This can really help win games especially when you and your teammates need to do a tactical withdrawal in the face of superior forces. 

 

Exactly mate! I learnt this playing CW and platooning in WoT. Sometimes you take a hit for your team mate to keep his gun in the game! The more guns on your team, the more guns firing at the enemy team!

 

i always appreciate when others give support on caps and appreciate that the BB’s may have more HP but are slower to be able to withdraw if nescessary so keeping them alive to fight the battle we can win works best for all!

 

Good luck and fair seas! o7

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