1,556 [WOLF2] TheDreadnought Beta Testers 3,876 posts 5,259 battles Report post #1 Posted October 16, 2017 I'm a BB main who lately has been switching to cruisers for a change of pace. I noticed I still had Sims in my port from Closed Beta. I thought, "what the hell, I'll try being a destroyer and see what they're [edited] about. Maybe it really IS unfair and their not just being crybabies." So I tried it. I found being a DD harder that I thought, right? WRONG!!!!! Being a destroyer is the easy button!! It was ridiculously easy to have HUGE influence on the outcome of the game as a destroyer. Yes. It's a short, brutal life. But played correctly you can carry your team to victory with ease. You're fast, you're agile, you're stealthy, you've got special powers like smoke and torps. It's ridiculous. Despite having virtually no destroyer experience, my win rate with the Sims is close to 70%. If I were a better DD player I'm sure my survivability and damage numbers would be higher. . . but I focused on winning the game, not surviving, and lo and behold. . . it was easy to do. If you're a DD player, quit your whining this instant. DDs are fine! I think the problem comes from people who want to play destroyers as immobile turrets. People who want to just sit in smoke and spam HE and torps all day. If you play a DD to win, and not as some kind of crappy damage farmer, your team will actually win. . . a lot. If you want to live a long time, or farm damage play something else. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,424 [HINON] tcbaker777 [HINON] Members 5,082 posts 6,825 battles Report post #2 Posted October 16, 2017 (edited) tell that to the IJN DDs at high tier, they have to literally PRAY their torps hit because the spotting range for them is nearly 2km out, DDs arent just smoke layers and spotters you know Edited October 16, 2017 by tcbaker777 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,014 Fog_Repair_Ship_Akashi Alpha Tester 3,666 posts 7,182 battles Report post #3 Posted October 16, 2017 4 minutes ago, TheDreadnought said: Shall i sum this rant up? 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
404 [WOLF5] AJTP89 Members 1,539 posts 2,149 battles Report post #4 Posted October 16, 2017 I was going to comment, but this thread is headed to places I don't want to go. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
22,946 [HINON] Lert Supertester 19,249 posts 12,800 battles Report post #5 Posted October 16, 2017 12 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
275 [VOC] StableGenius Beta Testers 1,128 posts 5,985 battles Report post #6 Posted October 16, 2017 And the mudfight begins... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,424 [HINON] tcbaker777 [HINON] Members 5,082 posts 6,825 battles Report post #7 Posted October 16, 2017 1 minute ago, AJTP89 said: I was going to comment, but this thread is headed to places I don't want to go. its going to the Dark Side, just like Anakin did Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,710 [SYN] Kapitan_Wuff [SYN] Members 6,873 posts 11,596 battles Report post #8 Posted October 16, 2017 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,424 [HINON] tcbaker777 [HINON] Members 5,082 posts 6,825 battles Report post #9 Posted October 16, 2017 Just now, Lert said: i have no clue whats happening in this gif, but i find it amusing, take a +1 Mr. Forum Cat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
787 [DUDE_] Abides Members 2,604 posts 12,503 battles Report post #10 Posted October 16, 2017 6 minutes ago, TheDreadnought said: I think the problem comes from people who want to play destroyers as immobile turrets. People who want to just sit in smoke and spam HE and torps all day. If you play a DD to win, and not as some kind of crappy damage farmer, your team will actually win. . . a lot. If you want to live a long time, or farm damage play something else. So, in a nutshell, dd's should spot, smoke and provide support for other ships so they can easily farm damage get big big numbers and credits...get 11th on the xp board....but still win....Is that about it? 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,419 [HINON] renegadestatuz Supertester 7,524 posts 7,580 battles Report post #11 Posted October 16, 2017 Well this thread is going places.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
24 fjrden Members 98 posts 7,628 battles Report post #12 Posted October 16, 2017 I can identify with the OP & what he has to say. I play DD's & discovered the Bismark in my collection I had won in some contest & took her for a spin. I drove around islands & very seldom has to use my main battery at all! BB's are easy mode... as it should be once reaching the top. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,622 The_GoDDfather Beta Testers 4,982 posts 5,610 battles Report post #13 Posted October 16, 2017 Well I see a large amount wrong here. I read through thinking, "Oh, another guy going through the low-mid tiers of glory for DDs. I was pretty dead on. You're playing DDs that don't typically see the super anti-DD radar, super RN BB and the cancers that are DM and Mino. You're in the paradise tiers. Also, it doesn't help your case that both ships are considered extremely good ships by the upper half of the community. I'd love to list all the reasons why, but I'm a little bit on my phone typing this because a friend sent me the link to reply. Superfluously, A member of the old DD Mafia 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,424 [HINON] tcbaker777 [HINON] Members 5,082 posts 6,825 battles Report post #14 Posted October 16, 2017 1 minute ago, KmsH44 said: Superfluously, A member of the old DD Mafia the GOOD DD Mafia Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,267 Preteen Members 3,725 posts 15,088 battles Report post #15 Posted October 16, 2017 The DD whisperer has played a couple of T7 games. Quick, gather around the campfire and soak up the knowledge that is leaking. Go on, OP, my chakras are open and lubed up. 11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,270 [NERO] TTK_Aegis Members 3,542 posts Report post #16 Posted October 16, 2017 (edited) Depends on the DD and the player really. Personally I like playing IJN ships a lot because I enjoy stealthy torp play. I find gunboat DDs extremely unfriendly to play in a no stealth fire world, but I also fully admit I haven't invested time into learning to play gunboat DDs since they removed stealth fire either. Edited October 16, 2017 by TTK_Aegis Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,338 [CRMSN] Cobraclutch Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 5,410 posts 3,583 battles Report post #17 Posted October 16, 2017 15 minutes ago, TheDreadnought said: I'm a BB main who lately has been switching to cruisers for a change of pace. I noticed I still had Sims in my port from Closed Beta. I thought, "what the hell, I'll try being a destroyer and see what they're [edited] about. Maybe it really IS unfair and their not just being crybabies." So I tried it. I found being a DD harder that I thought, right? WRONG!!!!! Being a destroyer is the easy button!! It was ridiculously easy to have HUGE influence on the outcome of the game as a destroyer. Yes. It's a short, brutal life. But played correctly you can carry your team to victory with ease. You're fast, you're agile, you're stealthy, you've got special powers like smoke and torps. It's ridiculous. Despite having virtually no destroyer experience, my win rate with the Sims is close to 70%. If I were a better DD player I'm sure my survivability and damage numbers would be higher. . . but I focused on winning the game, not surviving, and lo and behold. . . it was easy to do. If you're a DD player, quit your whining this instant. DDs are fine! I think the problem comes from people who want to play destroyers as immobile turrets. People who want to just sit in smoke and spam HE and torps all day. If you play a DD to win, and not as some kind of crappy damage farmer, your team will actually win. . . a lot. If you want to live a long time, or farm damage play something else. What destroyers did you play? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
15 [HYDRA] Herodotus4 Members 136 posts 1,167 battles Report post #18 Posted October 16, 2017 1 minute ago, KmsH44 said: Well I see a large amount wrong here. I read through thinking, "Oh, another guy going through the low-mid tiers of glory for DDs. I was pretty dead on. You're playing DDs that don't typically see the super anti-DD radar, super RN BB and the cancers that are DM and Mino. You're in the paradise tiers. Also, it doesn't help your case that both ships are considered extremely good ships by the upper half of the community. I'd love to list all the reasons why, but I'm a little bit on my phone typing this because a friend sent me the link to reply. Superfluously, A member of the old DD Mafia well, the sims is tier 7 so it will sometimes see the New Orleans and Chappy, and will see the Atlanta and payfast. On the other hand despite the number of CCE medals I have in my New Orleans (when you radar DDs sometimes they rush you and the NO has decent secondaries) I have experienced 56 second Des Moines radar a couple of times and know that the NO is nothing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,322 [-K-] Kombat_W0MBAT Supertester 5,153 posts 8,946 battles Report post #19 Posted October 16, 2017 (edited) Haven't seen any whining lately. This sounds like a post created on outdated impressions by someone with minimal experience on the subject based on an insufficiently small sample size of personal data. Just drama for the sake of drama. Edited October 16, 2017 by Kombat_W0MBAT 11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,637 [PLPT] pmgaudio Members 9,915 posts 10,447 battles Report post #20 Posted October 16, 2017 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
239 Panzer1113 Members 1,459 posts 12,365 battles Report post #21 Posted October 16, 2017 Great, secrets of the universe figured out, BBs at the top of the food chain - all others merely fodder for their consumption - and must be silent in this subservient role.... whining reserved for the top... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,093 [DAKI] SireneRacker WoWS Wiki Editor 7,330 posts 6,609 battles Report post #22 Posted October 16, 2017 17 minutes ago, TheDreadnought said: You're fast, you're agile, you're stealthy, you've got special powers like smoke and torps. It's ridiculous. So because the most agile USN DD in the entire game is stealthy, you conclude that everyone else is like that as well... Maybe play Shiratsuyu for a change. Either have mediocre torps or smoke, crappy guns, be slow af and only have your stealth to rely on, nothing else. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,276 [RKLES] Admiral_Thrawn_1 Members 7,229 posts 9,022 battles Report post #23 Posted October 16, 2017 6 minutes ago, fjrden said: I can identify with the OP & what he has to say. I play DD's & discovered the Bismark in my collection I had won in some contest & took her for a spin. I drove around islands & very seldom has to use my main battery at all! BB's are easy mode... as it should be once reaching the top. Umm what exactly happened in that battle!?!? Because when my Bismarck takes to the battlefield my main guns are firing often as soon as the next shells can get loaded and my Secondaries stay busy as well. You don't usually get to cruise around relying just on your Secondaries and this is coming from a Bismarck player that has their Captain and ship Full Secondary Build and main guns still are vital to winnng. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
144 [SF-E] _Big_Lou_ Members 354 posts 9,834 battles Report post #24 Posted October 16, 2017 4 minutes ago, Kombat_W0MBAT said: Haven't seen any whining lately. This sounds like a post created on outdated impressions by someone with minimal experience on the subject based on an insufficiently small sample size of personal data. LOL, the @Kombat_W0MBAT is having none of this! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
103 khorender_1 Members 519 posts 3,419 battles Report post #25 Posted October 16, 2017 So you played a premium t7 DD and now all of us learning to play DD's should listen to your wisdom in a couple of games ? how about No 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
