Mikhail Or Atago Or Scharnhorst

[alexc123]

Forgot to add the Atago. 

 

Hi. I no one is a battle ship and one is a crus, but if you could only get one for pure fun factor wich one and why? I know there totally diff play styles and what not. Any help would be great thanks

[Nimitz_1701]

What ship class do you main?

[Nimitz_1701]

The Scharnhorst is great for brawling, so if you like that you should go for her. 

Mikhail Kutuzov is a mid range to long range fire support ship. She uses islands and her smoke to stay hidden while she fires her HE.

In all it depends on the play style you have.

[DingBat]

9 minutes ago, alexc123 said:

Hi. I no one is a battle ship and one is a crus, but if you could only get one for pure fun factor wich one and why? I know there totally diff play styles and what not. Any help would be great thanks

 

Kutuzov if you love to rain fire on ships from extreme long range. 

 

Scharn if you like a fairly tanky brawler that bullies cruisers and battleships. 

[Hochtaloughie]

I love playing both.

 

However, if I had to choose, I'd default to the Scharnhorst because I tend to play aggressively and any BB is likely to last longer than a cruiser when on a last ditch yolo run.

 

I especially love it when two non-torp bearing BB's set themselves up where I can run a gauntlet with Scharnhorst. Set secondaries on one, focus main guns on the other and torp both. A successful gauntlet run leads to overwhelming Bwahahahaha moments. :)

[LemonadeWarrior]

I believe you can try the Scharnhorst now for three days as a rental. Perhaps that should help :)

[alexc123]

18 minutes ago, Nimitz_1701 said:

What ship class do you main?

Well, i play both about the same amount, but my style is a little more agressive , so i assume that sould hurt me in the Mikhail?.

[CrazyHorse_Denver]

I have both and consider the Scharn has the higher fun factor. That's because it's easier to play. To have a good game in the MK takes a higher level of concentration and that usually cuts in on the fun.

[Sovereigndawg]

Apples and Oranges, have one of each.

[ReddNekk]

20 minutes ago, CrazyHorse_Denver said:

I have both and consider the Scharn has the higher fun factor. That's because it's easier to play. To have a good game in the MK takes a higher level of concentration and that usually cuts in on the fun.

Another thing that cuts into the fun of driving MK is that everyone hates your firestarting and focus' on you. Use her smoke... A lot!

Scharnhorst is beast of a brawler. She's great at fighting anything you're likely to encounter. Plus she can survive a helluva beating and still fight.

I have both too. MK is a damn good ship. Scharnie is a excellent ship, my favorite of all the ships in my port. I have a lot of fun playing both.

As Sovereigndawg pointed out, why not have both?

[alexc123]

8 minutes ago, ReddNekk said:

Another thing that cuts into the fun of driving MK is that everyone hates your firestarting and focus' on you. Use her smoke... A lot!

Scharnhorst is beast of a brawler. She's great at fighting anything you're likely to encounter. Plus she can survive a helluva beating and still fight.

I have both too. MK is a damn good ship. Scharnie is a excellent ship, my favorite of all the ships in my port. I have a lot of fun playing both.

As Sovereigndawg pointed out, why not have both?

Thanks for info, both, i only have $$ for one

[Panzer1113]

Have all three - with so many missions now in the 8 to 10 tier range, would suggest tier 8 ship ( sorry Shinny).  Atago tiers up well, MK performance can be impacted more by radar ships at the higher tiers and not sure what the new smoke changes will do to light cruisers.  Atago would be my suggestion.

[Kapitan_Wuff]

Very subjective and kinda up to personal style. Scharn and Kutz are both ships you can't go wrong with though. 

[RipNuN2]

 

Buy all the things!

[Delicious_Flat_Chest]

Atago, unlike the Kut can really do so many things, and can take hits as long as you dont show citadel and most of all, it has a dang heal.

I like all 3 of them, so buy all three of them. They all bring different flavors and are good ships.

[ReddNekk]

You didn't mention Atago, which I also have, earlier. If I could keep only Atago or Kutuzov, I'd choose Atago. Atago is, to me, a more versatile CA. Plus, with CE on your captain and Concealment System Mod 1, you can reduce detectability to 9.1 klicks, (less than my Fiji) which is shorter that Atago's torpedo range, giving you a small window for sneak torp attacks. Having a heal is a big plus as well.

Let us know which ship you decide on please, I'm curious.

[Nimitz_1701]

19 hours ago, alexc123 said:

Well, i play both about the same amount, but my style is a little more agressive , so i assume that sould hurt me in the Mikhail?.

If your play style is aggressive then get the Scharnhorst. She tanks damage like nothing else and is almost completely idiot proof. I have both ships and while I do like the Kutuzov, she just can't compare with the fun I get from playing the Scharnhorst.

[crzyhawk]

I have both, prefer Kutuzov

[Simuo]

I recommend buying Scharnhorst, assuming your goal is finding a competitive ship that has clear advantages over the other ships in the same tier. 

 

Unlike WG doing to World of Tanks, WG _does_ change premium ships. WG changed the invisible-fire technique and impacted pretty much all premium DD and some CA/CL. Amongst those are Gremyaschy, Blyskawica, Sims, Lo Yang, Kutuzov(!!), Anshan. These ships are very good at stealth fire and this change is a nurf to them.

WG is planning another nurf of increasing visibility while firing in smoke. This will affect Kutuzov(again !), and Belfast

 

Neither change are specific to these premium ships, but these premium ships DO get nurf'd. The take away is you want to avoid a ship that has special/unique feature comparing to the same ship type. Kutuzov has smoke, and smoke is unique in Russia ships and is not common (except in English CL). Belfast has smoke+radar, we know smoke+fire will be nurfed soon, and smoke+radar has been a critical topic since introduced. Who knows when WG will change radar?

 

Scharnhorst is a different beast. It has no special trick. It's similar to Gneisenau with the exception of guns. Yes, it's just the guns, but hey BB is all about guns! German BB all have unreliable guns - from T3 Konig Albert to T10 GK, and Gneisenau is not an exception. Scharnhorst has 280mm guns, it's smaller but it loads faster, and it is very accurate. It even has 2.0 sigma. 2.0 sigma is on par with the most accurate ships in the game except Yamato with 2.1 sigma. This makes Scharnhorst useful in mid-long range and it makes a _huge_ difference. While all other German BB must engage close to be effective, Scharnhorst has the entire map as her arena, and it opens up all kinds of play. It may stay invisible, fire, push in then kite out. Scharnhorst has armor to play brawler, has agility to play battlecruiser, has strong AA to flank alone, has secondary to keep DD away, has accurate gun to play peek-and-shoot, has 20sec reload to counter cruiser, and has torpedo to go toe-to-toe with any other BB with bigger gun. It doesn't have any special consumable - just heal and spotting/fighter plane. It's just a BB that is tuned very, very well. It's a jack-of-all-trade, and unlike other versatile ships that are master-of-none, Scharnhost does very well in all roles. 

 

[sasquatch_research]

Hey

I have the Scharn, kutu and the Takao version of Atago.  Scharnhorst without a doubt is my day in, day out favorite.  Atago is fun and would make my second choice, even though power creep has hurt it some but it's still very versatile.  Kutuzov is quite fun but takes some skill to get consistent damage numbers, she is fragile outside of smoke but it can be good killing DD's.  Scharnhorst offers the most bang for the buck for me and I have killed many BB's with it's "Small" guns.

 

Pete