2,172 [CNO] Soshi_Sone [CNO] Members 4,217 posts 13,824 battles Report post #1 Posted October 12, 2017 ...and i liked it. But despite doing 60K damage...he survived "Die Hard"....and a few moments latter was back up to half health..or nearly so. It was a good trade 60K for 6K (burning and getting focus fire...seconds away for dying otherwise)...and i was able to cit DS a NO just before the ram. Sigh...ya'll should have seen the salt in chat when my ram failed to take him out. A successful ram (i.e., defined as taking out the enemy) might have been enough to swing a win. All that said, between the ram and the cit on the NO, I think 70% of the damage I inflicted during the entire match was delivered in 5 seconds of play. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
270 Kevs02Accord Members 1,626 posts 8,563 battles Report post #2 Posted October 12, 2017 You dont run the ramming flag? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
403 [HINON] Jnobsire Members 1,546 posts 15,588 battles Report post #3 Posted October 12, 2017 Ramming is fun! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
108 [NZS] Panzerlin Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 387 posts 9,558 battles Report post #4 Posted October 12, 2017 I'm always much more inclined to ram in my Hood. Once carried a win with it that way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
108 BlueWaterWolf Beta Testers 271 posts 10,664 battles Report post #5 Posted October 12, 2017 Speed flag, a ramming flag, and a ready repair and heal are my requirements. The ship rudder upgrade is also high on the list for a proper ramming-capable ship. IJN CAs and BBs have decent speed, agility and HP for this. The OP made the right choice for the tactical circumstance presented. Better to earn as much as possible before certain death. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,787 [HINON] Doomlock Modder, In AlfaTesters, Beta Testers, WoWS Wiki Editor 6,706 posts 4,256 battles Report post #6 Posted October 12, 2017 The Monarch attempted to Conquer, she was defeated. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,520 [SYN] mofton [SYN] Members 7,237 posts 11,044 battles Report post #7 Posted October 12, 2017 Just a shame when WG copy/pasted KGV into T8 Monarch that they didn't bother to change many of the stats, including HP - which is the lowest for a T8 BB and peculiarly matches KGV's exactly... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,735 [WOLF2] TheDreadnought Beta Testers 4,227 posts Report post #8 Posted October 12, 2017 I hate rammers. I would run ramming flags to fend them off, but it happens so rarely that it seems a waste. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
881 [HINON] Carrier_Lexington [HINON] Members 3,887 posts 4,227 battles Report post #9 Posted October 12, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, BlueWaterWolf said: Speed flag, a ramming flag, and a ready repair and heal are my requirements. The ship rudder upgrade is also high on the list for a proper ramming-capable ship. IJN CAs and BBs have decent speed, agility and HP for this. Ramming damage is not much dependent on Speed. I know because a French Cruiser using Speed Boost in a Ram does the same amount of damage that a French Cruiser at full speed does in a ram. Edited October 12, 2017 by Carrier_Lexington Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
589 Gen_Saris Members 1,553 posts 7,833 battles Report post #10 Posted October 12, 2017 1 hour ago, mofton said: Just a shame when WG copy/pasted KGV into T8 Monarch that they didn't bother to change many of the stats, including HP - which is the lowest for a T8 BB and peculiarly matches KGV's exactly... Agreed. KGV at 7 is decent, but virtually the same ship pushed one tier higher just feels lackluster. I'm not at all impressed with Monarch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,610 [TASH] ValkyrWarframe Members 5,027 posts 8,563 battles Report post #11 Posted October 12, 2017 5 minutes ago, Carrier_Lexington said: Ramming damage is not much dependent on Speed. I know because a French Cruiser using Speed Boost in a Ram does the same amount of damage that a French Cruiser at full speed does in a ram. Beyond a certain point, ramming damage is capped. It's only at low speed that it matters, and even then I think it has more to do with the briefer contact before the ships push each other away than speed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
108 BlueWaterWolf Beta Testers 271 posts 10,664 battles Report post #12 Posted October 12, 2017 (edited) Oh, I am aware that speed beyond a certain velocity matters not. :) It is the ability to position oneself and quickly accelerate after rudder changes that makes the difference. Also why I put the rudder upgrade on my ram-possible ships. My five Kongos can twist away from torp spreads then spear the Omaha that launched them. Edited October 12, 2017 by BlueWaterWolf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,172 [CNO] Soshi_Sone [CNO] Members 4,217 posts 13,824 battles Report post #13 Posted October 12, 2017 (edited) It's my understanding that a ram does the damage of the smallest ship's full health pool HP to both ships. In my case, the Monarch (at 60K) was the smallest full health pool. Based on end of game screen, it showed the Conqueror taking about 60K of damage. I took 6K (but that's all I had left). There is also flooding, but the Conq activated DCP. Edited October 12, 2017 by Soshi_Sone Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
86 [JSRF] commodore_torakula Members 1,266 posts 9,593 battles Report post #14 Posted October 29, 2017 On 10/12/2017 at 0:18 PM, Gen_Saris said: Agreed. KGV at 7 is decent, but virtually the same ship pushed one tier higher just feels lackluster. I'm not at all impressed with Monarch. ... thx for the heads up, clanmate.....I'm looking at getting the Monarch, but now I'm having 2d thoughts.....that's an awful lot of fxp to waste on something without reading the reviews Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
663 [DAKI] Hanger_18 Beta Testers 2,904 posts 4,248 battles Report post #15 Posted October 30, 2017 i always type it in chat before i go for a ram Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
371 [RKN] SavageTactical Beta Testers 1,096 posts 9,864 battles Report post #16 Posted October 30, 2017 I heard ram damage depends upon ship displacement; since the Monarch weights less than the Conqueror you died and he lived. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
589 Gen_Saris Members 1,553 posts 7,833 battles Report post #17 Posted November 2, 2017 On 10/29/2017 at 7:53 PM, commodore_torakula said: ... thx for the heads up, clanmate.....I'm looking at getting the Monarch, but now I'm having 2d thoughts.....that's an awful lot of fxp to waste on something without reading the reviews Lion is excellent, but a worthless T8 is a LOT to grind through. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
100 [NSEW] LowSpeed_US Members 716 posts 9,057 battles Report post #18 Posted November 3, 2017 On 30/10/2017 at 2:30 AM, SavageTactical said: I heard ram damage depends upon ship displacement; since the Monarch weights less than the Conqueror you died and he lived. Nope, refer the OP's post above. I confess, I'm a proponent of the UK BB lines. It was just something new to play with. However, the T10 Repair rate, and it's percentage is kinda sorta on the silly side. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
86 [JSRF] commodore_torakula Members 1,266 posts 9,593 battles Report post #19 Posted November 3, 2017 On 11/2/2017 at 3:53 PM, Gen_Saris said: Lion is excellent, but a worthless T8 is a LOT to grind through. ...... hey I made Warrant Officer. ....if only I was that high-ranking in RL... ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
488 [JASH] MrKilmister Members 3,603 posts 9,203 battles Report post #20 Posted November 4, 2017 On 11/2/2017 at 3:53 PM, Gen_Saris said: Lion is excellent, but a worthless T8 is a LOT to grind through. Monarch was comparatively lackluster but I got through it fine. It's not too bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
12 [SG] Tsarn Beta Testers 61 posts 9,067 battles Report post #21 Posted November 4, 2017 Had a Shima actually ram my Z52 in clan wars. Didn't go so well for him.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
152 [HWIN] Big_Tidday_Goth_GF Alpha Tester 937 posts 6,810 battles Report post #22 Posted November 4, 2017 I think my most epic ram was killing a Kamikaze R in either the V-22 or maybe the tier VI German. In any case it was right as he had positioned himself to torp and it was in tight space. Sad to say like your team op, he had to spoil things by being a baby about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
