1,478 [HINON] renegadestatuz Members 7,656 posts 9,539 battles Report post #1 Posted October 10, 2017 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,776 [SIM] SkaerKrow Members 6,307 posts 10,286 battles Report post #2 Posted October 10, 2017 Looks good to me. If we have to have radar DDs, then they should have to give up their own stealth consumable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,370 Terrible_Turtle Members 5,202 posts Report post #3 Posted October 10, 2017 Good. Smoke + Radar would be too much I think. Smoke + Hydro on KM DDs is already extremely potent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,052 DDJohnston Members 6,667 posts Report post #4 Posted October 10, 2017 5 minutes ago, SkaerKrow said: Looks good to me. If we have to have radar DDs, then they should have to give up their own stealth consumable. Makes sense. They can have smoke, or radar, but not both, and since they can't have both, they made the radar a bit better. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9,860 [NMKJT] VTAdmiral Beta Testers 24,800 posts 3,947 battles Report post #5 Posted October 10, 2017 (edited) Giving up Smoke won't matter. PA destroyers will use their USN-like rate of fire + magically harder-hitting RU shells to gain the upper hand in the initial dogfight. Other destroyer pops smoke to disengage. PA destroyer pops radar, kills other destroyer. PA destroyer occupies other destroyer's smoke. Edited October 10, 2017 by AraAragami 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,855 RedSeaBear Members 5,450 posts 21,046 battles Report post #6 Posted October 10, 2017 You know these DDs will do wonders when div'd up with another DD who packs smoke. I can just see the salt the Pan Asian T9 and T10 will produce when div'd up with their USN sisters lol. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,080 [NGA-A] JediMasterDraco Members 2,654 posts 17,764 battles Report post #7 Posted October 10, 2017 Looks like I won't be using Radar on my Pan-A DDs. Smoke is just way to valuable to US style DDs. Unless wargaming wants to pull their heads out of their asses and do something about their shell velocity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,431 [NO2BB] m373x Members 3,885 posts 24,515 battles Report post #8 Posted October 10, 2017 (edited) So this is going to be 28 seconds of radar time at T10, stealth radar time. As the bear from the red sea pointed out this will be a wombo-combo when paired with a Gearing. Kinda want. Edited October 10, 2017 by m373x Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
924 [TSF_1] pewpewpew42 Members 3,301 posts 7,816 battles Report post #9 Posted October 10, 2017 I like it. It's not a long duration, but just enough to be worthwhile. Also like the idea of not having mini-Belfasts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
327 abyssofthetriffid Members 1,560 posts 4,033 battles Report post #10 Posted October 10, 2017 (edited) 29 minutes ago, renegadestatuz said: No no no and no and never. Radar needs deleting from the game as is. Edited October 10, 2017 by abyssofthetriffid 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
327 abyssofthetriffid Members 1,560 posts 4,033 battles Report post #11 Posted October 10, 2017 (edited) Just simply no. I hate this crap already. Edited October 10, 2017 by abyssofthetriffid 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,168 [SYN] mofton [SYN] Members 9,312 posts 18,905 battles Report post #12 Posted October 10, 2017 Time to sell Minotaur... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,370 Terrible_Turtle Members 5,202 posts Report post #13 Posted October 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, abyssofthetriffid said: No no no and no and never. Radar needs deleting from the game as is. I suggest you find a different game then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
327 abyssofthetriffid Members 1,560 posts 4,033 battles Report post #14 Posted October 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, Kombat_W0MBAT said: I suggest you find a different game then. No more radar. Remove all radar. No and no and no. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,431 [NO2BB] m373x Members 3,885 posts 24,515 battles Report post #15 Posted October 10, 2017 1 minute ago, abyssofthetriffid said: No more radar. Remove all radar. No and no and no. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,478 [HINON] renegadestatuz Members 7,656 posts 9,539 battles Report post #16 Posted October 10, 2017 1 minute ago, abyssofthetriffid said: No more radar. Remove all radar. No and no and no. They’ve already said it’s not going anywhere. You just need to deal with it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
327 abyssofthetriffid Members 1,560 posts 4,033 battles Report post #17 Posted October 10, 2017 Just now, renegadestatuz said: They’ve already said it’s not going anywhere. You just need to deal with it. What like the brit fire and invisible bbs at 5km yes ok lets just say yes please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,478 [HINON] renegadestatuz Members 7,656 posts 9,539 battles Report post #18 Posted October 10, 2017 1 minute ago, abyssofthetriffid said: What like the brit fire and invisible bbs at 5km yes ok lets just say yes please. Lol no BB is undetected at that range unless they’re behind an island or in smoke. Also, Brits aren’t losing their fire chance do you kind of have to deal with that as well lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
313 Psicopro Members 1,243 posts 5,495 battles Report post #19 Posted October 10, 2017 Wonder if the Gearing is going to get the same options since you know -- that is an American ship at the top of the Pan Asia line. Going to bet no. Need to understand what the point of the Gearing is going to be once this change goes through if the new line gets the same guns and harder to detect torps. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,593 [CRMSN] Cobraclutch Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 6,021 posts 4,739 battles Report post #20 Posted October 10, 2017 Good change. This makes Radar on a DD much more palatable Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,478 [HINON] renegadestatuz Members 7,656 posts 9,539 battles Report post #21 Posted October 10, 2017 1 minute ago, Psicopro said: Wonder if the Gearing is going to get the same options since you know -- that is an American ship at the top of the Pan Asia line. Going to bet no. Need to understand what the point of the Gearing is going to be once this change goes through if the new line gets the same guns and harder to detect torps. Gearing has more health, is more maneuverable and also has torps that can hit other DDs. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
327 abyssofthetriffid Members 1,560 posts 4,033 battles Report post #22 Posted October 10, 2017 (edited) Delete the pan tree now and the new british bb line delete them also. Line of sight is broken. Lag is real. Radar in tier 5 is a joke. Remove radar and balance. I actually was brawling at under a km last night and launched my torps proper devastation to the enemy ship but voila no launch i died. This game is so broken like a 7 year old relationship. utterly broken. Edited October 10, 2017 by abyssofthetriffid Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,478 [HINON] renegadestatuz Members 7,656 posts 9,539 battles Report post #23 Posted October 10, 2017 1 minute ago, abyssofthetriffid said: Delete the pan tree now and the new british bb line delete them also. Line of sight is broken. Lag is real. Radar in tier 5 is a joke. Remove radar and balance. I actually was brawling at under a km last night and launched my torps proper devastation to the enemy ship but voila no launch i died. This game is so broken like a 7 year old relationship. utterly broken. Lol they’re not gonna delete the trees, so asking for that to happen is pointless. Also, if you feel the game is that broken, then why deal with it and and why not just go play another game? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
313 Psicopro Members 1,243 posts 5,495 battles Report post #24 Posted October 10, 2017 Just now, renegadestatuz said: Gearing has more health, is more maneuverable and also has torps that can hit other DDs. The first two won't matter if caught in Radar in a cap. The third is more luck than a practical ability. Too bad, I like contesting caps. Guess that got harder again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,593 [CRMSN] Cobraclutch Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 6,021 posts 4,739 battles Report post #25 Posted October 10, 2017 5 minutes ago, renegadestatuz said: Gearing has more health, is more maneuverable and also has torps that can hit other DDs. Gearing has 900 more health. In exchange for being Slower Less Maneuverable (640 vs 620) Less Rudder Shift (3.3 vs 3.1) Much less concealment (.6 km difference) Outside of the Torpedoes not hitting other DD's. The Hsiang Yang is much better then the Gearing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
