0 [RTS] _Queen_Anne_Revenge_ Members 3 posts 1,477 battles Report post #1 Posted October 9, 2017 Why is it when we do good we get craped on? 6 kills ! 1543 exp. 1 kill in pvp is way more. People who afk in pvp mostly get more exp. This needs to be fixed. I got this in a pvp match I would have gotten 30x the reward. it should be more balanced in terms of rewards. not all of use feel like pvp to grind the exp for teir 10''s Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,470 [HINON] renegadestatuz Supertester 7,640 posts 7,907 battles Report post #2 Posted October 9, 2017 The rewards are always less in co-op. It’s like that to try and draw people into playing randoms. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
558 [SOV] Brohk Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 1,682 posts 6,777 battles Report post #3 Posted October 9, 2017 The reward is proportional to the challenge. Whoa, that took me back... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,638 [PLPT] pmgaudio Members 9,915 posts 11,225 battles Report post #4 Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) the real question is what happened to your PRINT SCREEN BUTTON???? do you not have one??? AND also this... you have 11, ELEVEN PVP games.. and 1073 CO-OP with 737 of them in tier 8 ships.... so I would love to know when you feel like you are going to play PVP and if not then get used to low income... how do you even know you get 30x the stuffs if you dont even try playing COOP.... and to grind XP in tier 8 ships you are going to be a WHILE!! Edited October 9, 2017 by pmgaudio Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
92 Speedstang Members 445 posts 2,076 battles Report post #5 Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) I mean, co-op is far easier than random, it doesn't make much sense at all to give the same reward for fighting bots. Would be rather unfair to PvP players as well due to the massive difference in difficulty. As WG has stated before, the mode was originally intended just for trying out and testing ships, not necessarily as a way to play the entire game. Edited October 9, 2017 by Speedstang Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,121 [NDA] kerensky914 Supertester 3,900 posts 1,545 battles Report post #6 Posted October 9, 2017 Does not need to be fixed. This is quite intentional on WG's part. The devs have come right out and said they only intended co-op to be a training mode and were genuinely surprised when they saw how many people play co-op. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,121 [NDA] kerensky914 Supertester 3,900 posts 1,545 battles Report post #7 Posted October 9, 2017 Just now, Speedstang said: I mean, co-op is far easier than random, it doesn't make much sense at all to give the same reward for fighting bots. Would be rather unfair to PvP players as well due to the massive difference in difficulty. As WG has stated before, the mode was only intended just for trying out and testing ships, not necessarily as a way to play the entire game. I will say I think it is harder to play a DD in co-op, because the AI is programmed to focus on DDs. And you can't really sneak up on the bots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
206 Pata1985 Members 1,019 posts 8,415 battles Report post #8 Posted October 9, 2017 co-op Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
92 Speedstang Members 445 posts 2,076 battles Report post #9 Posted October 9, 2017 Just now, kerensky914 said: I will say I think it is harder to play a DD in co-op, because the AI is programmed to focus on DDs. And you can't really sneak up on the bots. In my experience, the moment I get spotted as a DD in random I have every single person with a line of sight to me drop whatever they're doing and fire everything at me. In co-op, the bots don't aim very well at all, so the shots are easy to dodge, not to mention they're terrible at dodging torpedoes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,638 [PLPT] pmgaudio Members 9,915 posts 11,225 battles Report post #10 Posted October 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, kerensky914 said: Does not need to be fixed. This is quite intentional on WG's part. The devs have come right out and said they only intended co-op to be a traiing mode and were genuinely surprised when they saw how many people play co-op. be carefull.... the CO-OP UNITED PEOPLE FRONT!!! will come and troll you!!! lol There are people with well over 5K battles in coop... and to make it even funnier they come into regular threads and give advice based on COOP games that we PVP'rs have in real games... now THATS GOLD!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,997 [HINON] RipNuN2 Members 10,092 posts Report post #11 Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) Rewards are scaled to the difficulty. If you want better rewards against bots, play operations as they are more challenging. This is coming from someone who has played a lot of coop battles but I do enjoy PVP when I'm able to do so. Edited October 9, 2017 by RipNuN2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,121 [NDA] kerensky914 Supertester 3,900 posts 1,545 battles Report post #12 Posted October 9, 2017 5 minutes ago, Speedstang said: In my experience, the moment I get spotted as a DD in random I have every single person with a line of sight to me drop whatever they're doing and fire everything at me. In co-op, the bots don't aim very well at all, so the shots are easy to dodge, not to mention they're terrible at dodging torpedoes. You must get different bots than I do. Yes, randoms will focus a DD on sight - I know I do. But with the bots as soon as you are spotted they *all* head for you. And they're pretty good at dodging torps, the computer knows when you launch them after all. ;) 5 minutes ago, pmgaudio said: be carefull.... the CO-OP UNITED PEOPLE FRONT!!! will come and troll you!!! lol There are people with well over 5K battles in coop... and to make it even funnier they come into regular threads and give advice based on COOP games that we PVP'rs have in real games... now THATS GOLD!!! Yeah, I know, but I'm not the one that said it. The truth hurts sometimes. ;) Trust me, before I came here I was a staunch PvE-only player in every other game I'd played. I understand why those guys feel the way they do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,121 [NDA] kerensky914 Supertester 3,900 posts 1,545 battles Report post #13 Posted October 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, RipNuN2 said: Rewards are scaled to the difficulty. If you want better rewards against bots, play operations as they are more challenging. This is coming from someone who has played a lot of coop battles but I do enjoy PVP when I'm able to do so. I agree, operations are worth doing and the rewards seem better than vanilla PvE (tho still not close to PvP) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,997 [HINON] RipNuN2 Members 10,092 posts Report post #14 Posted October 9, 2017 1 minute ago, kerensky914 said: I agree, operations are worth doing and the rewards seem better than vanilla PvE (tho still not close to PvP) I get many runs that are as good as PVP. I had one run at almost 2k base xp. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,638 [PLPT] pmgaudio Members 9,915 posts 11,225 battles Report post #15 Posted October 9, 2017 Just now, kerensky914 said: You must get different bots than I do. Yes, randoms will focus a DD on sight - I know I do. But with the bots as soon as you are spotted they *all* head for you. And they're pretty good at dodging torps, the computer knows when you launch them after all. ;) Yeah, I know, but I'm not the one that said it. The truth hurts sometimes. ;) Trust me, before I came here I was a staunch PvE-only player in every other game I'd played. I understand why those guys feel the way they do. there is one in particular I have not seen in a long time , I wonder if he is still here... AND the MAROON-MORON is my favorite... the RAGE QUITTING COOP demon! That fof course is not his real name due to the name and shame rule, I left his real name out... but his rage quit posts was one of the best I have ever seen.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
45 [WOLF1] toosonmike Beta Testers 402 posts 4,307 battles Report post #16 Posted October 9, 2017 9 minutes ago, pmgaudio said: be carefull.... the CO-OP UNITED PEOPLE FRONT!!! will come and troll you!!! lol There are people with well over 5K battles in coop... and to make it even funnier they come into regular threads and give advice based on COOP games that we PVP'rs have in real games... now THATS GOLD!!! Why are so intent on crapping on every thread you post in? Who cares if he plays pve, I do too...sometimes the chat in pvp gets to you....it's really none of your business is it? Honestly, there was a way to block posts, you would be on the top of my list. And yes, you came into one of my threads and capped all over it, like you're doing now. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,638 [PLPT] pmgaudio Members 9,915 posts 11,225 battles Report post #17 Posted October 9, 2017 14 minutes ago, toosonmike said: Why are so intent on crapping on every thread you post in? Who cares if he plays pve, I do too...sometimes the chat in pvp gets to you....it's really none of your business is it? Honestly, there was a way to block posts, you would be on the top of my list. And yes, you came into one of my threads and capped all over it, like you're doing now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,638 [PLPT] pmgaudio Members 9,915 posts 11,225 battles Report post #18 Posted October 9, 2017 6 hours ago, knice_destroyer said: Moderated by Mezurashi. but I never ONCE called anyone a prick... Well done kid Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,240 ReddNekk Members 4,094 posts 15,015 battles Report post #19 Posted October 9, 2017 33 minutes ago, kerensky914 said: I will say I think it is harder to play a DD in co-op, because the AI is programmed to focus on DDs. And you can't really sneak up on the bots. That and the bots always know where you are, no matter what you're driving and are very accurate shooters. However, Random is a lot riskier and a greater challenge so if one wants the greater rewards, take on the greater challenge. My 2 cents. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,638 [PLPT] pmgaudio Members 9,915 posts 11,225 battles Report post #20 Posted October 9, 2017 16 minutes ago, toosonmike said: Why are so intent on crapping on every thread you post in? Who cares if he plays pve, I do too...sometimes the chat in pvp gets to you....it's really none of your business is it? Honestly, there was a way to block posts, you would be on the top of my list. And yes, you came into one of my threads and capped all over it, like you're doing now. Insults me for having fun and I NEVER ONCE INSULTED ANYONE!!! you and that other guy are also PURE GOLD.... wake up kid.... its FUNNY STUFF Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,680 [O_O] desmo_2 Members 4,837 posts 10,605 battles Report post #21 Posted October 10, 2017 I get why people play Co-op and I don't think any less of them for it. However, Co-op is a much different animal than PvP, and IMO shouldn't have the same level of reward. Playing against players takes a lot more caution, thought, planning, coordination, etc. Of course there are frequent s4!7-show games, but the rule still stands. I have had dozens and dozens of Random games that have left my heart pounding, palms sweaty, and whooping out loud. Not even once in a Co-op game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,283 Skpstr Members 20,791 posts 5,614 battles Report post #22 Posted October 10, 2017 1 hour ago, desmo_2 said: Playing against players takes a lot more caution, thought, planning, coordination, etc. I disagree to an extent. IMO, it's not that PvP takes more of those things you mention, (except maybe the thought) it's that it's unpredictable. In PvE, you know your enemy's ROE, and that he won't deviate, and your team has no ROE. PvP, neither team knows what the other will do. You can figure out what players will usually do, and play accordingly. But it might not work. Or maybe you'll luck out and you weren't where the enemy expected, and it works brilliantly. That's why I play this game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
54 [PT8TO] Gizuke Members 284 posts 11,788 battles Report post #23 Posted October 10, 2017 8 hours ago, toosonmike said: Why are so intent on crapping on every thread you post in? Who cares if he plays pve, I do too...sometimes the chat in pvp gets to you....it's really none of your business is it? Honestly, there was a way to block posts, you would be on the top of my list. And yes, you came into one of my threads and capped all over it, like you're doing now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
45 [WOLF1] toosonmike Beta Testers 402 posts 4,307 battles Report post #24 Posted October 10, 2017 1 minute ago, Gizuke said: Whatever Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,958 [PVE] Taylor3006 [PVE] Members 6,532 posts 19,383 battles Report post #25 Posted October 10, 2017 9 hours ago, kerensky914 said: Does not need to be fixed. This is quite intentional on WG's part. The devs have come right out and said they only intended co-op to be a training mode and were genuinely surprised when they saw how many people play co-op. The fact that Wargaming was surprised that people like PvE shows an immaturity of gaming that is beyond the pale. PvE has always been a popular gaming mode in any game where it is available and the idea that they weren't aware of this is either out of stupidity or deception. With that said, I agree with you that rewards in Coop are just fine the way they are. If the OP wants more xp/credits, go into OPs or PvP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
