1,680 Snoopys_Odyssey Members 1,603 posts 18,714 battles Report post #1 Posted October 9, 2017 Tier 8-10 matches turns more into a game of "Call of Duty" than a naval game when there aren't any aircraft carriers. Without aircraft carriers the game of "World Of Warships" turns into a game of a first person shooter game where everyone is hiding behind islands, very little team work, and everyone is afraid to push. With aircraft carriers in the match, you can't play hide and seek when aircraft will delete your static [edited]. We need more aircraft carriers at the higher tiers to stop the rampant camping behind islands with a play style that is equivalent of an infantryman. Give a bonus, or some other incentive to play aircraft carriers. Otherwise with all the static play, "World of Warships" turns to crap. Yeah, yeah....here comes the dumb [edited] comments from the peanut gallery like "get gud" and "play aircraft carriers". For one if "getting gud" means to play high level matches like it was "Halo", or "Rainbow Six", then I am out. That is just not fun, and gets old very quickly. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9,860 [NMKJT] VTAdmiral Beta Testers 24,800 posts 3,947 battles Report post #2 Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) Funny, the ability to punish stationary battleships bow-camping or island-camping is the exact reason battleship mains whined carriers out of the game to begin with. Edited October 9, 2017 by AraAragami 11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,693 [FOXEH] BladedPheonix Alpha Tester 6,885 posts 21,747 battles Report post #3 Posted October 9, 2017 6 minutes ago, AraAragami said: Funny, the ability to punish stationary battleships bow-camping or island-camping is the exact reason battleship mains whined carriers out of the game to begin with. yup...... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
903 anonym_OlK73e329bMY Members 3,284 posts Report post #4 Posted October 9, 2017 Interesting viewpoint. I mostly agree. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
93 [WOLF2] khan1670 Members 471 posts 12,605 battles Report post #5 Posted October 9, 2017 Make Ocean great again!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,776 [SIM] SkaerKrow Members 6,307 posts 10,286 battles Report post #6 Posted October 9, 2017 Currently, aircraft carriers can delete ships whether they're mobile or static; the only real counter is your ship's AA rating. Ergo, the addition of more carriers doesn't make the game more interesting, it just punishes lines with bad AA. If static play is a problem, then there are far better solutions than ramping up the participation of the game's most dysfunctional class. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
17,264 [WOLF5] HazeGrayUnderway [WOLF5] Members 38,112 posts 30,874 battles Report post #7 Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) There have been 3 traditional threats that BB worry about. Torpedoes & DDs. Carrier Air Power. Interestingly, these same 3 things have received plenty of heavy handed nerfs since Launch. Coincidentally, BBs are the most played ships in the game. There's nothing wrong with Cruisers. They get deleted just fine by Battleships. Edited October 9, 2017 by HazeGrayUnderway 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,201 [HC] SgtBeltfed [HC] Beta Testers 3,972 posts 13,731 battles Report post #8 Posted October 9, 2017 I don't think it would help. The huge clump of ship's hiding behind (pick island of your choice) is pretty much impossible to attack with aircraft. A combined AA rating of 400 or so, not including a cruiser with a cooldown hiding somewhere in that makes it impossible. All it does is tell the Shimakaze where to put the torps when it's lucky enough to be on the team that actually does something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
206 Pata1985 Members 1,019 posts 8,525 battles Report post #9 Posted October 9, 2017 Imagine T10 matches with 2 CV's per side ... lulz. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,186 BlazerSparta Members 11,026 posts 30,665 battles Report post #10 Posted October 9, 2017 58 minutes ago, db4100 said: With aircraft carriers in the match, you can't play hide and seek when aircraft will delete your static [edited] My [edited] will stay as static as I damn well please as long as I am/am with a DM/Minotaur. If CVs can't attack through AA cruisers, they are ineffective in forcing ships to move. If CVs can attack through AA cruisers, they're blatantly overpowered. CVs can not solve this problem. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,186 BlazerSparta Members 11,026 posts 30,665 battles Report post #11 Posted October 9, 2017 51 minutes ago, AraAragami said: Funny, the ability to punish stationary battleships bow-camping or island-camping is the exact reason battleship mains whined carriers out of the game to begin with. Ignoring the fact that DDs are the ships hardest impacted by CVs.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9,860 [NMKJT] VTAdmiral Beta Testers 24,800 posts 3,947 battles Report post #12 Posted October 9, 2017 Just now, issm said: Ignoring the fact that DDs are the ships hardest impacted by CVs.... This is true but it doesn't change the fact that battleships did most of the complaining. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,186 BlazerSparta Members 11,026 posts 30,665 battles Report post #13 Posted October 9, 2017 4 minutes ago, AraAragami said: This is true but it doesn't change the fact that battleships did most of the complaining. And on that note, who's doing the complaining is completely irreelvant if the complaints are valid. How about you give up the irrelevant nonsense and address the complaints themselves, and if they're valid? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
17,264 [WOLF5] HazeGrayUnderway [WOLF5] Members 38,112 posts 30,874 battles Report post #14 Posted October 9, 2017 Battleship life is so difficult! It's a shame if something were to scratch that paint. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,680 Snoopys_Odyssey Members 1,603 posts 18,714 battles Report post #15 Posted October 9, 2017 Yeah, destroyers are affected by aircraft too, but that feeling you get when you are in destroyer and you find a lone, undefended aircraft carrier......such a feeling. That is what aircraft carrier drivers fear, right? A rogue DD coming in at you undetected and uncontested. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,431 [NO2BB] m373x Members 3,885 posts 24,515 battles Report post #16 Posted October 9, 2017 1 hour ago, db4100 said: you can't play hide and seek when aircraft will delete your static [edited] Good luck deleting my 18km average distance traveled per game Des Moines Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9,860 [NMKJT] VTAdmiral Beta Testers 24,800 posts 3,947 battles Report post #17 Posted October 9, 2017 11 minutes ago, issm said: How about you give up the irrelevant nonsense and address the complaints themselves, and if they're valid? Because when I do that, you still call it irrelevant nonsense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,186 BlazerSparta Members 11,026 posts 30,665 battles Report post #18 Posted October 9, 2017 Just now, AraAragami said: Because when I do that, you still call it irrelevant nonsense. What else am I supposed to call it when you whine about how easy CVs are to kill once spotted when they're hardly ever spotted? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
205 [SHOOP] knice_destroyer Members 623 posts 13,233 battles Report post #19 Posted October 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, HazeGrayUnderway said: Battleship life is so difficult! It's a shame if something were to scratch that paint. AP bombs causing multiple citadel hits, Tier 9 and 10 Japanese CV triple torp drops literally 1 kilometer from the ship ignoring 100 AA speccd battleships getting dev strikes, I hardly call that just scratching the paint. I'm not saying some planes should make it through...however an experienced cv captain can straight wreck a bb moving or not. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9,860 [NMKJT] VTAdmiral Beta Testers 24,800 posts 3,947 battles Report post #20 Posted October 9, 2017 Just now, issm said: What else am I supposed to call it when you whine about how easy CVs are to kill once spotted when they're hardly ever spotted? Because that's the only thing I've ever said about carriers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,186 BlazerSparta Members 11,026 posts 30,665 battles Report post #21 Posted October 9, 2017 Just now, AraAragami said: Because that's the only thing I've ever said about carriers. Remind me. I don't bother memorising bad arguments; it's not that hard to just debunk them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9,860 [NMKJT] VTAdmiral Beta Testers 24,800 posts 3,947 battles Report post #22 Posted October 9, 2017 7 minutes ago, issm said: Remind me. I don't bother memorising bad arguments; it's not that hard to just debunk them. Not gonna bother since you clearly don't care and won't be swayed. It'd just be a waste of time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,186 BlazerSparta Members 11,026 posts 30,665 battles Report post #23 Posted October 9, 2017 1 minute ago, AraAragami said: Not gonna bother since you clearly don't care and won't be swayed. It'd just be a waste of time. Yes, I care so little that I'd be willing to go through and debunk your arguments point by point, and explain exactly why, with proof, how your arguments are irrelevant nonsense. Could it possibly be that you're afraid of having your ideas challenged? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,578 ReddNekk Members 4,479 posts 19,839 battles Report post #24 Posted October 9, 2017 25 minutes ago, AraAragami said: This is true but it doesn't change the fact that battleships did most of the complaining. Thanks for the laugh DDriver! Talk about willful ignorance. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9,860 [NMKJT] VTAdmiral Beta Testers 24,800 posts 3,947 battles Report post #25 Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, issm said: Could it possibly be that you're afraid of having your ideas challenged? Nope. I just don't think you're worth the time. It'd just be a waste of time and effort. Not because you'd debunk everything, but because you literally cannot be convinced of anything that was not already your idea. I've been interacting with you for 2 years. I know how stubborn you are. And I know you're just trying to manipulate me into giving you something to bite down on so you can feel good about how you "beat" me. I'll just be over here, deconstructing your psyche like the good ol' days. 5 minutes ago, ReddNekk said: Thanks for the laugh DDriver! Talk about willful ignorance. I love people who assume I don't play battleships or that I wasn't around since CBT to see all of this unfold firsthand. Edited October 9, 2017 by AraAragami Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
