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STOP THE EFFIN DEFEAT ATTITUDE

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Yeah, I'm yelling.  I'm getting really tired of folks chiming in at the beginning of a match about how they are going to lose for whatever reason.  I'm talking the first chat of the game.  Look, I know some folks out there are defeatist...go ahead be that way.  But DO NOT ANNOUNCE IT TO THE WORLD!!!  Defeatism is contagious..it poisons the mind.  And it becomes self fulfilling.  So if all you got to say is that you are going to be destroyed or lose...then STFU.  I don't want to hear it...and the team doesn't want to hear it.

 

Now, strategic or tactical talk about a mismatch...that's OK.  Strategy to overcome a deficit...OK.  Or even simply pointing out a mismatch...that's OK.   But not..."OMG...[mismatch]...I'm going to die".  We don't want to hear that.

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I must say that I get a kick out of proving those people wrong and winning the game...

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I have certain scenarios where I just think to myself “Yep we’re not winning this” when my team decides to lemming to A on Okinowa or C on The Atlantic. Or A on Islands of Ice. Despite this, I usually keep it to myself or at most the guys on Discord

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It's hard when you see right away that yes we're all going to die and there's nothing I can do about it and even talking about it will just make it worse

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I like to prove them wrong by carrying.

Doesn't happen as often as I'd like.

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11 minutes ago, Soshi_Sone said:

I'm getting really tired of folks chiming in at the beginning of a match about how they are going to lose for whatever reason.  I'm talking the first chat of the game.

Turn your chat OFF, sweetheart.
Problem solved.

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 I've never seen someone say such things at the very beginning of the match, usually it happens after the majority of the team prove themselves as being bad at the game by making dumb decisions. @FireAndHEspam gave some good examples. Soshi, I think you are exaggerating a lot.

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5 minutes ago, JervisBay said:

Turn your chat OFF, sweetheart.
Problem solved.

Turning chat off is a bad idea since it shuts down channels of communication and any chances that something helpful appears

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Personally, I like to see which side gets the first three kills before I start thinking the battle's swinging one way or the other. People that decide the match is over before it starts just because we have a typically weaker CV or the enemy has a strong premium are really annoying. 

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Huh, this happens? I can maybe remember a handful of games where someone writes in chat that it's hopeless right from the start of the game. In my experience, the defeatistattitude starts when: (1) there are AFKs/slow loading players; or (2) DDs get wiped off the map in the first few minutes.

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57 minutes ago, Soshi_Sone said:

Yeah, I'm yelling.  I'm getting really tired of folks chiming in at the beginning of a match about how they are going to lose for whatever reason.  I'm talking the first chat of the game.  Look, I know some folks out there are defeatist...go ahead be that way.  But DO NOT ANNOUNCE IT TO THE WORLD!!!  Defeatism is contagious..it poisons the mind.  And it becomes self fulfilling.  So if all you got to say is that you are going to be destroyed or lose...then STFU.  I don't want to hear it...and the team doesn't want to hear it.

 

Now, strategic or tactical talk about a mismatch...that's OK.  Strategy to overcome a deficit...OK.  Or even simply pointing out a mismatch...that's OK.   But not..."OMG...[mismatch]...I'm going to die".  We don't want to hear that.

Disable chat and play salt-free

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Sometimes I recognize a famous forum lurker and decide to troll them with defeated attitude to throw them off their game....

 

I like to be top dog on losing team.

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50 minutes ago, Lert said:

I like to prove them wrong by carrying.

Doesn't happen as often as I'd like.

That club has a lot of members,

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16 minutes ago, dEsTurbed1 said:

Sometimes I recognize a famous forum lurker and decide to troll them with defeated attitude to throw them off their game....

 

I like to be top dog on losing team.

 

You are disturbed.

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35 minutes ago, dEsTurbed1 said:

Sometimes I recognize a famous forum lurker and decide to troll them with defeated attitude to throw them off their game....

 

I like to be top dog on losing team.

 

A good man knows his limitations.

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XVM rears it's ugly head all too often.  I wish it would be removed.

On a funny side note, when I was doing the Corgi Fleet thing, sometime after my 70th battle.. someone (with XVM) was putting in chat...  "Our Corgi is Better than your Corgi!!"  :Smile_Default:

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When the team lollygags towards caps, and then don't cap.....I will call the team out by posting: "If we don't cap, we are going to lose".  Usually we lose, but sometimes the other team just melts away.  Weird how some battles turn out.

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1 hour ago, JervisBay said:

Turn your chat OFF, sweetheart.
Problem solved.

 

Don't you play Co-op? Pretty sure that doesn't happen there....sugarplum?

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I've only seen this a couple of times in game, oddly enough it usually involves carriers. "Oh great, we have a <insert bad carrier> and they have a <insert good carrier>, it's a loss" or something along those lines. I do see the subtle defeatism more often, such as complaining about how one side got one more battleship or destroyer, or more ships with radar.

 

Haven't seen anything on the level of WoT and XVM win chance yet (is that even a thing anymore?). 

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Today monday morning greeted me with a 5 straight losses, 4 of them I was #1 looser (top, not bottom lol).

 

 Oh well... best way to start the WoWs week I Guess.

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Being handed a turd sandwich by WG and smiling while you take a bite just isn't my style.   I will continue to congratulate the reds on their fortunate MM undeserved arbitrary advantage.

 

someone said in a game once when the reds had an extra BB and An extra DD...

 

"You know you've lost before the game starts when you have more cruisers."

 

Hilarious and mostly true.

 

Hmmmm because according to mm Pensacola = Scharnhorst?  Oh stop being a defeatist.  LOL!

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3 hours ago, Soshi_Sone said:

Yeah, I'm yelling.  I'm getting really tired of folks chiming in at the beginning of a match about how they are going to lose for whatever reason.  I'm talking the first chat of the game.  Look, I know some folks out there are defeatist...go ahead be that way.  But DO NOT ANNOUNCE IT TO THE WORLD!!!  Defeatism is contagious..it poisons the mind.  And it becomes self fulfilling.  So if all you got to say is that you are going to be destroyed or lose...then STFU.  I don't want to hear it...and the team doesn't want to hear it.

 

Now, strategic or tactical talk about a mismatch...that's OK.  Strategy to overcome a deficit...OK.  Or even simply pointing out a mismatch...that's OK.   But not..."OMG...[mismatch]...I'm going to die".  We don't want to hear that.

Agreed - Just yesterday as soon as chat opened some guy starts with the other teams unicum stats - and for the 1st time in chat that's exactly what i used "STFU" - and dont do it again nobody wants to hear that S_ _T !! well we lost the game - so yeah

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3 hours ago, Soshi_Sone said:

Yeah, I'm yelling.  I'm getting really tired of folks chiming in at the beginning of a match about how they are going to lose for whatever reason.  I'm talking the first chat of the game.  Look, I know some folks out there are defeatist...go ahead be that way.  But DO NOT ANNOUNCE IT TO THE WORLD!!!  Defeatism is contagious..it poisons the mind.  And it becomes self fulfilling.  So if all you got to say is that you are going to be destroyed or lose...then STFU.  I don't want to hear it...and the team doesn't want to hear it.

 

Now, strategic or tactical talk about a mismatch...that's OK.  Strategy to overcome a deficit...OK.  Or even simply pointing out a mismatch...that's OK.   But not..."OMG...[mismatch]...I'm going to die".  We don't want to hear that.

When your CV's USN and enemy CV's IJN, AND on top of that, your CV's 30% win rate while the enemy is 60%. Yeah... that game's over before it even started.

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