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So it's come to my attention that mods added to Aslain's somewhat recently contain such things as marking a X on the minimap where you are currently aiming, making it pretty trivial to hit targets that have recently smoked or don't move while in it. Can someone tell me how this is not literally cheating? Not to mention long-standing mods like running lights and the angle mod which spoonfeed you information.

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I agree, it is cheating. It's basically aim assist all over again, removing human error.

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Yea I've got a pretty big bone to pick with the x on the minimap, seeing as it was silently added as one of the options on the most used minimap mod in aslains and it makes shooting at targets who dont move in smoke or hell, shooting at targets 15-20km away in a cyclone, pretty damn easy.

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1 minute ago, Kashi06 said:

Yea I've got a pretty big bone to pick with the x on the minimap, seeing as it was silently added as one of the options on the most used minimap mod in aslains and it makes shooting at targets who dont move in smoke or hell, shooting at targets 15-20km away in a cyclone, pretty damn easy.

That sounds like a huge pain in the [edited], taking fire in cyclone w/o radar detection from an unseen source?  That'd be infuriating.

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Sounds cheesy, but if you sit still even in smoke you deserve to be shot. So two sides to the coin

My bet is its short lived

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Just now, Panzerlin said:

That sounds like a huge pain in the [edited], taking fire in cyclone w/o radar detection from an unseen source?  That'd be infuriating.

I did it in my first game in NC. Abusing the mod, I slammed a cruiser who was on our cap fighting our DD with a citadel, influencing a fight 15km away that I was not a part of at all seeing as it was a cyclone. The cruiser player actually asked in all chat "Who just hit me?" and I did confess to him and told him i was just using the mod proivided in aslain's most popular minimap option

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You can report it to Aslains. If you do, he will take it out, no questions.

Just now, AbrudolfLincler said:

Weeb mods should be banned imho

Freedom of anything, amirite?

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Definitely feel the same way. The old aim assist from back in the CBT days was deemed to be a banned mod and rightfully so, this kind of thing doesn't seem much different. Being able to hit ships that aren't rendered should be skill based, not through use of a mod.  

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Wow, didn't know this was in the game. I used to use aslains but got tired of installing it each patch so I have been vanilla wows for a long while now and don't miss the mods at all. Well, I do miss not having the ship name next to the players name in chat, but not enough to start up mods again. That X marking last known position is, to me anyway, a borderline cheat. No wonder recently I was thinking some players have great accuracy shooting into smoke. Now I know why...:cap_wander:

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2 minutes ago, AbrudolfLincler said:

Weeb mods should be banned imho

Does that mean Kii camo will be enabled by default?

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my game is a little heavy on the visual mods but you can clearly see the X on the minimap that follows my cursor in this screenshot

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5 minutes ago, AbrudolfLincler said:

Weeb mods should be banned imho

 

Error 404: Tolerance not found

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WG should just include all the minimap mods they deem legal and prevent modders from messing with the minimap.

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21 minutes ago, Gaishu_Isshoku said:

So it's come to my attention that mods added to Aslain's somewhat recently contain such things as marking a X on the minimap where you are currently aiming, making it pretty trivial to hit targets that have recently smoked or don't move while in it. Can someone tell me how this is not literally cheating? Not to mention long-standing mods like running lights and the angle mod which spoonfeed you information.

 

8 minutes ago, Kashi06 said:

my game is a little heavy on the visual mods but you can clearly see the X on the minimap that follows my cursor in this screenshot

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I haven't used mods in over a year, but how is an X placed on the minimap helping you aim?

 

How is that any different from current, official ingame options to leave a ship marker and ship name in their last spotting report on the minimap, even after they smoke or break contact?

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Aiming by the mini map doesn't sound like it would be accurate at all. I use some mods from aslains but have never seen that one. I don't think you will run into many people using it. On the "Worry About It Scale" I would rate this a 1 or none.

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9 minutes ago, HazeGrayUnderway said:

 

 

I haven't used mods in over a year, but how is an X placed on the minimap helping you aim?

 

How is that any different from current, official ingame options to leave a ship marker and ship name in their last spotting report on the minimap, even after they smoke or break contact?

 

Because it's very hard to actually aim at that minimap marker when you have little reference between what you're aiming at with your guns and what's on the minimap...

 

It's also basically giving you a permanent spotter plane level of advantage 

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2 minutes ago, Cruiser_Noshiro said:

 

Because it's very hard to actually aim at that minimap marker when you have little reference between what you're aiming at with your guns and what's on the minimap...

Building on that, a really good player that's used this mod for a while can target ships (with some success) that have gone silent.

 

This is definitely a grey mod.

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I 100% think mods like running lights, nag mod, and the X mini-map marker are cheating. They provide major advantages to the player and are not fair to those not using the mods. 

 

I hope WG bans these mods one day...

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2 minutes ago, Zakuul said:

Building on that, a really good player that's used this mod for a while can target ships (with some success) that have gone silent.

 

This is definitely a grey mod.

You can't aim off of the Mini map, I will never believe it, that is, until I see some proof, I am off to a better post, this one has zero merit.

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30 minutes ago, Gaishu_Isshoku said:

So it's come to my attention that mods added to Aslain's somewhat recently contain such things as marking a X on the minimap where you are currently aiming, making it pretty trivial to hit targets that have recently smoked or don't move while in it. Can someone tell me how this is not literally cheating? Not to mention long-standing mods like running lights and the angle mod which spoonfeed you information.

 

29 minutes ago, Dont_aim_me_please said:

Wholeheartedly agree. With the rise of mods providing more and more information, they might as well make a mod that substitutes as a player or aims for said player.

 

29 minutes ago, Snoozing_Mako said:

I agree, it is cheating. It's basically aim assist all over again, removing human error.

there is no target lock you will be blind firing - that X means/does nothing - its not aim assist at all - NO TARGET LOCKED - 

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Just now, Sovereigndawg said:

You can't aim off of the Mini map, I will never believe it, that is, until I see some proof, I am off to a better post, this one has zero merit.

agreed

 

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9 minutes ago, HazeGrayUnderway said:

 

 

I haven't used mods in over a year, but how is an X placed on the minimap helping you aim?

 

How is that any different from current, official ingame options to leave a ship marker and ship name in their last spotting report on the minimap, even after they smoke or break contact?

You can combine it with Last Known Position and fire at targets stationary in smoke extremely easily

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28 minutes ago, Kashi06 said:

I did it in my first game in NC. Abusing the mod, I slammed a cruiser who was on our cap fighting our DD with a citadel, influencing a fight 15km away that I was not a part of at all seeing as it was a cyclone. The cruiser player actually asked in all chat "Who just hit me?" and I did confess to him and told him i was just using the mod proivided in aslain's most popular minimap option

lucky shot into smoke - no target locked

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