7 OldFrog75 Members 163 posts 411 battles Report post #1 Posted October 8, 2017 The Tier I Cruisers have AA but what purpose do they serve? Near as I can tell they are only cosmetic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
199 a_trout_bum_2 Members 412 posts 17,016 battles Report post #2 Posted October 8, 2017 in this game, since tier 1 ships do not see aircraft, i guess they serve the same purpose as tits on a bull Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
102 [BFBTW] DoctorMcDerp Members 500 posts 2,939 battles Report post #3 Posted October 8, 2017 (edited) Um... fail diving and seeing a Katori? Also, training rooms, but those aren't exactly actual battles. Edited October 8, 2017 by DoctorMcDerp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
145 Koschka Members 897 posts 7,381 battles Report post #4 Posted October 8, 2017 Because those ships had AA in real life is the reason. Plus it keeps all the ships the same in that regard, instead of suddenly giving ships AA only when they get high enough tier to face CV's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7 OldFrog75 Members 163 posts 411 battles Report post #5 Posted October 8, 2017 (edited) While on the topic how does one activate/fire AA at aircraft? I'm guessing there is a keystroke in Settings that changes firing modalities like from Main Artillery to Torps so that in theory (higher tiers) you could be switching from Main Artillery to AA to Torps and back again. Once AA is activated you use the cursor to aim and fire at Aircraft or is it like the secondaries on BB that fire automatically in range? Edited October 8, 2017 by OldFrog75 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
145 Koschka Members 897 posts 7,381 battles Report post #6 Posted October 8, 2017 1 minute ago, OldFrog75 said: While on the topic how does one activate/fire AA at aircraft. I'm guessing there is a keystroke in Settings that changes firing modalities like from Main to Torps so that in theory (higher tiers) you could be switching from Main Artillery to AA to Torps and back again. P if memory in the middle of the night serves. Age makes that less than certain. By default AA is on, but P key toggles it on or off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
145 Koschka Members 897 posts 7,381 battles Report post #7 Posted October 8, 2017 I will also point out that if you hold the ctrl key down you can move the mouse pointer around in game and click on a ship to set them as a primary target for secondary guns, or do the same thing to a squadron of planes. If you set them as a primary you get a small dmg buff against them. Just FYI so you know about it, it helps. I always set the torp squadrons as primary as they are more dangerous than the dive bombers so your AA will focus on the torp groups more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7 OldFrog75 Members 163 posts 411 battles Report post #8 Posted October 8, 2017 4 minutes ago, Koschka said: I will also point out that if you hold the ctrl key down you can move the mouse pointer around in game and click on a ship to set them as a primary target for secondary guns, or do the same thing to a squadron of planes. If you set them as a primary you get a small dmg buff against them. Just FYI so you know about it, it helps. I always set the torp squadrons as primary as they are more dangerous than the dive bombers so your AA will focus on the torp groups more. Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
145 Koschka Members 897 posts 7,381 battles Report post #9 Posted October 8, 2017 Just now, OldFrog75 said: Thanks You're Welcome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,386 [SYN] Camo68 Members 3,775 posts 25,446 battles Report post #10 Posted October 8, 2017 56 minutes ago, Koschka said: I will also point out that if you hold the ctrl key down you can move the mouse pointer around in game and click on a ship to set them as a primary target for secondary guns, or do the same thing to a squadron of planes. If you set them as a primary you get a small dmg buff against them. Just FYI so you know about it, it helps. I always set the torp squadrons as primary as they are more dangerous than the dive bombers so your AA will focus on the torp groups more. Good advice, it is a good habit to get into in lower tiers. Ctrl+click to set both priority secondary & AA targets. It makes a difference as you go up the tiers. Higher skilled captains can also take Manual AA control & Manual secondary skills which increase their effectiveness (but you have to select the targets). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
265 nothere01 Members 620 posts 6,152 battles Report post #11 Posted October 8, 2017 there is a zeppelin on a polar map..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,287 [WG-CC] SireneRacker -Members-, Members 9,101 posts 8,050 battles Report post #12 Posted October 8, 2017 4 hours ago, Koschka said: If you set them as a primary you get a small dmg buff against them A bit more than just small, it's 30%. That's like a free BFT that also brings the AA flag free of charge Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,640 [WOLF1] pmgaudio Members 9,915 posts 18,626 battles Report post #13 Posted October 8, 2017 5 hours ago, OldFrog75 said: While on the topic how does one activate/fire AA at aircraft? I'm guessing there is a keystroke in Settings that changes firing modalities like from Main Artillery to Torps so that in theory (higher tiers) you could be switching from Main Artillery to AA to Torps and back again. Once AA is activated you use the cursor to aim and fire at Aircraft or is it like the secondaries on BB that fire automatically in range? oh and just so you know,, AA guns are never fired by you... they are automatic... like secondaries... you never actually aim and shoot... if its in range it gets shot at...and like the others said, you press cntrl and left click the target and it gets priority if it gets in range.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,556 [GWG] AVR_Project Members 8,019 posts 15,964 battles Report post #14 Posted October 8, 2017 (edited) Training Room If you seriously want to learn torpedo beats -- go Hermelin .vs. Hosho. Edited October 8, 2017 by AVR_Project Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
488 [RMOVE] Fog_Heavy_Cruiser_Takao Alpha Tester 1,375 posts 14,387 battles Report post #15 Posted October 8, 2017 Because a long time ago in a game not too unfamiliar, Tier 1s had the ability to see CVs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
59 [POI--] WeissRaben_2 Members 190 posts 2,201 battles Report post #16 Posted October 8, 2017 2 hours ago, pmgaudio said: oh and just so you know,, AA guns are never fired by you... they are automatic... like secondaries... you never actually aim and shoot... if its in range it gets shot at...and like the others said, you press cntrl and left click the target and it gets priority if it gets in range.... And, in truth, it's not even real shooting. AA is an aura: once a plane enters it, it has a chance every second for small AA guns, every some seconds for larger AA guns, to be shot down. Said chance depends on the DPS of the AA influencing that aura, and the HP of the planes. A plane never loses HP: it's either healthy or destroyed, and a high number HP only means it's hard to shoot down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
145 Koschka Members 897 posts 7,381 battles Report post #17 Posted October 8, 2017 6 hours ago, SireneRacker said: A bit more than just small, it's 30%. That's like a free BFT that also brings the AA flag free of charge Well I couldn't remember the number off the top of my head and I figured if I said big buff someone would say no it's only a small buff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,860 [PVE] Kizarvexis Members 20,319 posts 13,642 battles Report post #18 Posted October 8, 2017 Besides everything that everyone has said above, AA doesn't affect dual purpose main or secondary guns. So in DDs and cruisers like Atlanta (with her 127mm main guns) that use dual purpose main guns, you don't have to stop firing the main guns for them to also add to the AA aura. P also toggles the secondary guns off and on as well with the AA guns. Dual purpose secondary guns provide the AA aura while they are firing at ships to. You can't affect AA and secondaries fire with the exception of toggling them off with P and selecting a priority target by Ctrl clicking on a ship or flight of planes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,054 DDJohnston Members 6,670 posts Report post #19 Posted October 8, 2017 12 hours ago, OldFrog75 said: While on the topic how does one activate/fire AA at aircraft? I'm guessing there is a keystroke in Settings that changes firing modalities like from Main Artillery to Torps so that in theory (higher tiers) you could be switching from Main Artillery to AA to Torps and back again. Once AA is activated you use the cursor to aim and fire at Aircraft or is it like the secondaries on BB that fire automatically in range? AA and secondaries are automatic. You can click and prioritize targets for AA, but otherwise they're automatic. Yes, AA for T1 and T2 are for show and completeness, since unless you're in a fail div, you won't see any carriers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
