295 [TF39] Tapioka70 Members 171 posts 32,314 battles Report post #1 Posted September 28, 2017 Hello Everyone, Just wondering why is demolition expert not a recommended captain perk on the Wows Wiki page for the Lion or Conqueror? (Lion is 1 star) http://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Conqueror To me it's not a coincidence that the developers put a 48% fire chance. Add two flags and you have 50%, add Demolition expert and you are over 52% Does that not mean that at least half of shells guarantee a lighting a fire or two? Perhaps someone who understands this better can help me. Thanks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9,545 [GWG] BrushWolf [GWG] Alpha Tester 29,406 posts 15,833 battles Report post #2 Posted September 28, 2017 In my opinion no. BB fire chance, let alone the RN BB's, is so high that the points are better spent elsewhere. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,894 [HINON] Doomlock [HINON] Wiki Lead, Beta Testers, Privateers 6,801 posts 5,248 battles Report post #3 Posted September 28, 2017 No. Your fire chance is already high enough to where a measly 2% is not gonna do anything. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7,521 [HINON] RipNuN2 Members 14,340 posts Report post #4 Posted September 28, 2017 Nope the benefit is not worth 3 points. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,013 [BONKS] DOCTOR_CITADEL [BONKS] Beta Testers 1,451 posts 15,401 battles Report post #5 Posted September 28, 2017 53 minutes ago, Tapioka70 said: Hello Everyone, Just wondering why is demolition expert not a recommended captain perk on the Wows Wiki page for the Lion or Conqueror? (Lion is 1 star) http://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Conqueror To me it's not a coincidence that the developers put a 48% fire chance. Add two flags and you have 50%, add Demolition expert and you are over 52% Does that not mean that at least half of shells guarantee a lighting a fire or two? Perhaps someone who understands this better can help me. Thanks! - The base fire chance is 48%. - Demolition Expert adds 2%. - You wind up with 50% fire chance. - 2% / 50% = a 4% increase in fire chance. 4% is a very, very minuscule boost in fire chance for 3 captain points spent. For contrast, let's look at a US DD with a 5% fire chance, then add DE. 2% / 5% = a 40% increase in fire chance. A MASSIVE increase. Well worth 3 captain points, if you are setting up a gunboat build. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
963 [HINON] Warped_1 [HINON] Members 2,497 posts 30,344 battles Report post #6 Posted September 28, 2017 47 minutes ago, BrushWolf said: In my opinion no. BB fire chance, let alone the RN BB's, is so high that the points are better spent elsewhere. This, the boost is useful for cruisers and DDs, but for RN and IJN especially, no need for BBs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
295 [TF39] Tapioka70 Members 171 posts 32,314 battles Report post #7 Posted September 29, 2017 Hi Everyone, Thanks for the info much appreciated. I understand of the value of 3pts, I was just wondering being a computer program that crossing the %50 threshold mathematically guarantees more fires. Assuming all shells hit the target (which they often do not) Conqueror 3x4 = 12/50% (6 shells have a chance of starting a fire) Lion 3x3 = 9/50% (4.5 shells start a fire) For Zao - 12/20% = 2.4 shells start a fire Does it work that way? Thanks again for clarifying! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
208 Braize Members 687 posts 9,588 battles Report post #8 Posted September 29, 2017 The main factor in getting Demo, is reload speed. Nothing else. It doesn't matter how many shells you are throwing out per volley when you have reload times of 25-35 seconds. A lot of people here are feeding you misinformation. BBs have slow reload, so a percentage based boost is not worth it. Whereas cruisers and DDs have reloads anywhere from 3 seconds to 10 seconds. Therefore, percent increase is a boost in power on fast reload because you are throwing out more shells, ergo, you are rolling the dice more with your 2% Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
295 [TF39] Tapioka70 Members 171 posts 32,314 battles Report post #9 Posted September 30, 2017 Thanks appreciate the info! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
23 [TF_16] Drazyx Members 84 posts 13,074 battles Report post #10 Posted September 30, 2017 not at all Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3 [BBMOD] 3li7e_NGineer42O Members 20 posts 7,600 battles Report post #11 Posted March 7, 2018 Thought about this before then saw this topic. For some British BBs yes, but for Lion/Conqueror no, get Adrenaline and BFT instead for the reload Share this post Link to post Share on other sites