Changes to Giulio Cesare from the Dev Blog.

[Doomlock]

Hi guys! 

 

New news about the balancing of Giulio Cesare is here from the WoWs Dev Blog: https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1938657479793923&id=1909055039420834

 

(Half the time I can't get the right link to embed in the forums)

 

"Maximum dispersion of main battery Giulio Cesare will be increased from 138 m to 226 m. The change is needed to reduce the excessive efficiency of the ship."

 

Whether or not this was good enough, or too much will have to be determined.

 

Thanks to @Kelorn for pointing this out.

 

Fair winds and following seas captains! 

[abyssofthetriffid]

New ship ruined.

[renegadestatuz]

1 minute ago, abyssofthetriffid said:

New ship ruined.

She was not ruined. She’s just not going to be OP now.

[abyssofthetriffid]

1 minute ago, renegadestatuz said:

She was not ruined. She’s just not going to be OP now.

When i fire at a ship and my shells actually all miss and land on mars that ship is indeed ruined.

[TTK_Aegis]

Nerf totally needed. 

 

...which is not to say I didn't want them to let this one slip through, because laser accurate BBs are insanely fun, but still, not at all shocked and it was the right call. 

[Doomlock]

5 minutes ago, abyssofthetriffid said:

New ship ruined.

The ship is still in testing, give it some time and see. None of the CCs have her new configuration yet.

[abyssofthetriffid]

1 minute ago, TTK_Aegis said:

Nerf totally needed. 

 

...which is not to say I didn't want them to let this one slip through, because laser accurate BBs are insanely fun, but still, not at all shocked and it was the right call. 

Like the katori guns lol....................

[renegadestatuz]

3 minutes ago, abyssofthetriffid said:

When i fire at a ship and my shells actually all miss and land on mars that ship is indeed ruined.

First off, She’s still in testing and anything and everything can be changed before she’s released. That’s the entire point of the testing process, to see what will work with her. Second, you don’t know how she plays yet considering you haven’t played her.

[SnowDriftTurtle]

This was coming.

 

But at least it feels like an appropriate nudge to where she needs to be instead of a massive change.

[LancerUlysses]

Of course 226m is still fantastic dispersion, just not effing ridiculous. Good move, WG!

[TTK_Aegis]

28 minutes ago, abyssofthetriffid said:

Like the katori guns lol....................

Yes, they pretty much were just like that. Now imagine that but with deletion power. 

[WeissRaben_2]

3 minutes ago, LancerUlysses said:

Of course 226m is still fantastic dispersion, just not effing ridiculous. Good move, WG!

At 16km? Not really. With 1.5 sigma? Even less not really.

[Ace_04]

35 minutes ago, abyssofthetriffid said:

When i fire at a ship and my shells actually all miss and land on mars that ship is indeed ruined.

You mean the ship you've never even played? 

 

No battleship deserves to have better dispersion than cruisers, period.

[Kitsunelegend]

226m dispersion seems fairly normal for most battleships.

 

Over all, seems like a good change! I may actually buy the ship now. :)

[landcollector]

2 minutes ago, Kitsunelegend said:

226m dispersion seems fairly normal for most battleships.

 

Over all, seems like a good change! I may actually buy the ship now. :)

Still has terrible sigma of 1.5 while her peers have mostly 1.8.  It's not a good change, imo.

[LancerUlysses]

5 minutes ago, WeissRaben_2 said:

At 16km? Not really. With 1.5 sigma? Even less not really.

And the performance historically of Italian warships justifies pinpoint accuracy exactly how? 

[Kitsunelegend]

2 minutes ago, landcollector said:

Still has terrible sigma of 1.5 while her peers have mostly 1.8.  It's not a good change, imo.

Shes tier 5 isn't she? That kind of accuracy is par for the course at that tier.

For example, the Fuso, the Wyoming, the ArkB, and the New Mexico all have a sigma of 1.5. Yet all of those ships are fairly good at what they do. Nerfing the dispersion on this ship to what it is, needed to be done, otherwise you'll have Nikolai 2.0.

This is a good change. Everyone whining and [edited] and moaning about it "ruining" the ship are the same people who have whined and bitched and moaned and caused the current power creep to happen.

 

Y'all honestly need to shut up and accept the fact that WG needs to stop releasing premium ships that are more powerful than the last one. Thats exactly how power creeping happens. and y'all are to blame for it.

[YamatoA150]

I'm fine with this. Make Roma the slightly OP Italian battleship.

[landcollector]

5 minutes ago, Kitsunelegend said:

Shes tier 5 isn't she? That kind of accuracy is par for the course at that tier.

For example, the Fuso, the Wyoming, the ArkB, and the New Mexico all have a sigma of 1.5. Yet all of those ships are fairly good at what they do. Nerfing the dispersion on this ship to what it is, needed to be done, otherwise you'll have Nikolai 2.0.

This is a good change. Everyone whining and [edited] and moaning about it "ruining" the ship are the same people who have whined and bitched and moaned and caused the current power creep to happen.

 

Y'all honestly need to shut up and accept the fact that WG needs to stop releasing premium ships that are more powerful than the last one. Thats exactly how power creeping happens. and y'all are to blame for it.

We'll see whose ideas/opinions are more on target in time then, I suppose.

[Phoenix_jz]

8 minutes ago, Kitsunelegend said:

Shes tier 5 isn't she? That kind of accuracy is par for the course at that tier.

For example, the Fuso, the Wyoming, the ArkB, and the New Mexico all have a sigma of 1.5. Yet all of those ships are fairly good at what they do. Nerfing the dispersion on this ship to what it is, needed to be done, otherwise you'll have Nikolai 2.0.

This is a good change. Everyone whining and [edited] and moaning about it "ruining" the ship are the same people who have whined and bitched and moaned and caused the current power creep to happen.

 

Y'all honestly need to shut up and accept the fact that WG needs to stop releasing premium ships that are more powerful than the last one. Thats exactly how power creeping happens. and y'all are to blame for it.

 

To be fair, quite literally every tier V has 1.8 sigma...

[Mizzerys_Fate]

How OP can a tier 5 ship be in say tier 7 matches she will see most often?

You know that excessive range she had with OP dispersion?

[Mizzerys_Fate]

Might as well buy a Texas,  as it has more range.

[LancerUlysses]

Or grind out a Kongo (lick it, Myogi :) ).

 

I personally will probably buy one. 

[SkaerKrow]

You know what? This ship never should have made it into the hands of the community contributors. This is an enormous nerf and if the ship was that OP then it should have been sorted out before WG let any details get out to the public through official channels. To be fair I blame WG for that, not the testers or community contributors, but come on. "Hey, are you excited about a battleship that actually puts shells in the same post code as your target? Well TOO BAD! It's the New York with a side of barber pole paint now!"

[Panzer1113]

Will be interesting to see where the stats end up, but MM will up tier this ship a lot and we may be asking the question " why would anyone but a collector plop money down for a meh tier 5 BB".