16 [AAYC] Tinytim_46 Members 41 posts 16,395 battles Report post #1 Posted September 26, 2017 Hi all, I read the forums but don't post much but CW should be called DD wars, that's the way it sounds like it will go. I have 1 T10 ship myself (HMS Minotaur) and not in a clan yet. Not likely to get a chance to play the mino in cw even when I join a clan. I do think the format is wrong, especially to omit one ship class completely. This is a game after all and CV's are a part of the game and should have the same opportunity to participate in CW as any other ship. Anyway have fun, happy sailing and enjoy blowing your enemy out of the water.? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,799 IronWolfV Alpha Tester, Beta Testers 30,523 posts 6,320 battles Report post #2 Posted September 26, 2017 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,615 [-K-] Edgecase [-K-] Members 6,121 posts 28,586 battles Report post #3 Posted September 26, 2017 1. It's not even called Clan Wars, it's Clan Battles. I'm not even sure CvC is an official name, it might be a community term. 2. It remains to be seen, but I highly doubt mass-DD teams will do well at all. Cruisers have a lot of firepower at T10, and at the end of the day, an all-DD team can't really hope to fight straight up for a cap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
534 [CUTE] Shigure_DD Supertester, In AlfaTesters 2,048 posts 11,680 battles Report post #4 Posted September 26, 2017 A all DD team will not due good in CB to much radar and hydro Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,882 [WTFS] TheKrimzonDemon Members 9,335 posts 13,771 battles Report post #5 Posted September 26, 2017 Once again, the sky is falling well before anyone actually knows anything. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
16 [AAYC] Tinytim_46 Members 41 posts 16,395 battles Report post #6 Posted September 26, 2017 I am no expert and do not profess to be, but reading how many people on the forums are saying that it will most likely be 6 khab dds, which would be no fun. the format will limit who can play. It will not take long for the top clans to work out what is best and everyone will do the same. Great way to alienate many players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
16 [AAYC] Tinytim_46 Members 41 posts 16,395 battles Report post #7 Posted September 26, 2017 hi nuttybiscuit, Thanks for the clan recruit pitch. Do you have toffee popcorn or is it just regular? Need the pop to have some crunch and chew. Send me a pm or invite Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
244 _Dracarys Members 828 posts 6,368 battles Report post #8 Posted September 26, 2017 19 minutes ago, Tinytim_46 said: Hi all, I read the forums but don't post much but CW should be called DD wars, that's the way it sounds like it will go. I have 1 T10 ship myself (HMS Minotaur) and not in a clan yet. Not likely to get a chance to play the mino in cw even when I join a clan. I do think the format is wrong, especially to omit one ship class completely. This is a game after all and CV's are a part of the game and should have the same opportunity to participate in CW as any other ship. Anyway have fun, happy sailing and enjoy blowing your enemy out of the water.? omitting CV completely is pre-WW2. Having only 1 BB is also not ww1: Let's call CW war, poor man's battle of jutland. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3 LordSynan Members 20 posts 4,105 battles Report post #9 Posted September 26, 2017 I agree, in fact I often make the joke that the game should be renamed to World of Destroyers. A well played CV is the only truly useful counter to the strategic supremacy of the DD. These clan battles cater to a specific group of players: DD players. This just furthers my belief that if you don't play a DD, WG doesn't want you playing the game at all. I wont be participating in clan battles, even if that means having to leave my clan. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,615 [-K-] Edgecase [-K-] Members 6,121 posts 28,586 battles Report post #10 Posted September 26, 2017 1 minute ago, Tinytim_46 said: I am no expert and do not profess to be, but reading how many people on the forums are saying that it will most likely be 6 khab dds, which would be no fun. Here's a secret: most players on the forum are also not experts. I wouldn't expect mass Khab to do well against a meta with a large number of Moskvas or Hindenburgs (in addition to the one battleship per team). They also have no real way to push a Gearing or Z-52 off a cap without getting stuck in a small area where they can't maneuver. 2 minutes ago, Tinytim_46 said: the format will limit who can play. It will not take long for the top clans to work out what is best and everyone will do the same. Great way to alienate many players. Everybody will try to copy the top teams, that's no surprise. But 99% of the other teams out there are also missing ships, so it's still a relatively even playing field. If not having the perfect flavor-of-the-week-special-super-meta-dominating comp is a deal-breaker for you, well... grind more ships, I guess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
425 [PSV] shiroko_prpr Members 890 posts 7,334 battles Report post #11 Posted September 26, 2017 A team of DDs is actually not great, as they have very low HP compared to other classes and they don't have as much damage output as other classes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,080 1Sherman Alpha Tester 6,683 posts 3,338 battles Report post #12 Posted September 26, 2017 41 minutes ago, Tinytim_46 said: Hi all, I read the forums but don't post much but CW should be called DD wars, that's the way it sounds like it will go. I have 1 T10 ship myself (HMS Minotaur) and not in a clan yet. Not likely to get a chance to play the mino in cw even when I join a clan. I do think the format is wrong, especially to omit one ship class completely. This is a game after all and CV's are a part of the game and should have the same opportunity to participate in CW as any other ship. Anyway have fun, happy sailing and enjoy blowing your enemy out of the water.? Rename it 7v7 Minotaur battles. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
28 Hystarr Beta Testers 137 posts 8,064 battles Report post #13 Posted September 26, 2017 39 minutes ago, TheKrimzonDemon said: Once again, the sky is falling well before anyone actually knows anything. Well, before you can sigh a breath of relief, one has to expect the very worst to happen.....and if it does pan out to be as bad as someone predicts it can be then they are the new Nostradamus of the game. Either way that way of thinking is the only way some of these millennials know how to. Where it is all about me and we all need medals and accolades for showing up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,276 anonym_Hf93Jbjm9WjT Members 4,302 posts Report post #14 Posted September 26, 2017 Welcome to POPCORN Tinytim ! 38 minutes ago, Tinytim_46 said: hi nuttybiscuit, Thanks for the clan recruit pitch. Do you have toffee popcorn or is it just regular? Need the pop to have some crunch and chew. Send me a pm or invite Toffee popcorn, why not? Sure to stick when thrown Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
444 [MPIRE] Ju87s Banned 1,662 posts 27,706 battles Report post #15 Posted September 26, 2017 Personally, I wholeheartedly welcome the discouragement of CV play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,882 [WTFS] TheKrimzonDemon Members 9,335 posts 13,771 battles Report post #16 Posted September 26, 2017 25 minutes ago, Hystarr said: Well, before you can sigh a breath of relief, one has to expect the very worst to happen.....and if it does pan out to be as bad as someone predicts it can be then they are the new Nostradamus of the game. Either way that way of thinking is the only way some of these millennials know how to. Where it is all about me and we all need medals and accolades for showing up. Sad, but true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
639 DiddleDum Members 1,655 posts 12,123 battles Report post #17 Posted September 26, 2017 1 hour ago, LordSynan said: I agree, in fact I often make the joke that the game should be renamed to World of Destroyers. A well played CV is the only truly useful counter to the strategic supremacy of the DD. Wha???? Over 60% of the matches I play don't have CVs in them. And destroyers are easily contained. In fact, they usually go out rather quickly. The ones smart enough to not move forward until mid-game are the ones that are dangerous. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,848 [ARRGG] CLUCH_CARGO [ARRGG] Members 5,770 posts Report post #18 Posted September 26, 2017 1 hour ago, TheKrimzonDemon said: Once again, the sky is falling well before anyone actually knows anything. Couldn't have stated it better. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
639 DiddleDum Members 1,655 posts 12,123 battles Report post #19 Posted September 26, 2017 36 minutes ago, Hystarr said: Well, before you can sigh a breath of relief, one has to expect the very worst to happen.....and if it does pan out to be as bad as someone predicts it can be then they are the new Nostradamus of the game. Either way that way of thinking is the only way some of these millennials know how to. Where it is all about me and we all need medals and accolades for showing up. Yep. Gonna play it as they offer it, and then make a decision. Will they adjust for future events? Likely. The preemptive condemnation only tends to sour the perspective. They did that with the new Star Trek series - Klingons are Trumpsters, liberal gay crew jumping out, woman power, etc. Had everyone in an uproar before the show even aired. Were viewers tainted, regardless of political leaning? Absolutely. I'll look at this with a clean slate. Probably won't be what I envision. It may be fun, it may suck. Just gonna wait and see. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
28 Hystarr Beta Testers 137 posts 8,064 battles Report post #20 Posted September 26, 2017 41 minutes ago, DiddleDum said: Yep. Gonna play it as they offer it, and then make a decision. Will they adjust for future events? Likely. The preemptive condemnation only tends to sour the perspective. They did that with the new Star Trek series - Klingons are Trumpsters, liberal gay crew jumping out, woman power, etc. Had everyone in an uproar before the show even aired. Were viewers tainted, regardless of political leaning? Absolutely. I'll look at this with a clean slate. Probably won't be what I envision. It may be fun, it may suck. Just gonna wait and see. Funny regardless of what something is nowadays, someone will spin it oftimes with their own soci-political beliefs. Surprised no one has suggested that the banning of CV's (historically CV's correlate with US global military strength) is a slight by Russian devs protesting Trump's geo-political moves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,498 Grizley Beta Testers 6,868 posts 4,189 battles Report post #21 Posted September 26, 2017 2 hours ago, Tinytim_46 said: I am no expert and do not profess to be, but reading how many people on the forums are saying that it will most likely be 6 khab dds, which would be no fun. the format will limit who can play. It will not take long for the top clans to work out what is best and everyone will do the same. Great way to alienate many players. I literally can't think of a worse team to bring. I'm sure someone will try it, but that doesn't make it good. The people suggesting 6 Khabs are either trolling, or very stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,498 Grizley Beta Testers 6,868 posts 4,189 battles Report post #22 Posted September 26, 2017 2 hours ago, _Dracarys said: omitting CV completely is pre-WW2. Having only 1 BB is also not ww1: Let's call CW war, poor man's battle of jutland. How many 7V7ish engagements from WW2 that do not include a CV on either side would you like before you will admit that's one of the dumbest things that anyone has said about CW so far? I'll give you Bismarck sinking the Hood as a freebie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,882 [WTFS] TheKrimzonDemon Members 9,335 posts 13,771 battles Report post #23 Posted September 28, 2017 On 9/26/2017 at 4:49 PM, Grizley said: How many 7V7ish engagements from WW2 that do not include a CV on either side would you like before you will admit that's one of the dumbest things that anyone has said about CW so far? I'll give you Bismarck sinking the Hood as a freebie. Ikr? That list is like...70% of the engagements. At least. Ah, the lack of historical knowledge is strong these days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,882 [WTFS] TheKrimzonDemon Members 9,335 posts 13,771 battles Report post #24 Posted September 28, 2017 On 9/26/2017 at 4:49 PM, Grizley said: How many 7V7ish engagements from WW2 that do not include a CV on either side would you like before you will admit that's one of the dumbest things that anyone has said about CW so far? I'll give you Bismarck sinking the Hood as a freebie. Ikr? That list is like...70% of the engagements. At least. Ah, the lack of historical knowledge is strong these days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites