0 anonym_MbpaxbbAUblh Members 589 posts Report post #1 Posted September 26, 2017 Poll: No CVs in Clan War - Good or Bad? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
303 [UDEAD] smf117 Members 708 posts 8,923 battles Report post #2 Posted September 26, 2017 Without them the torp spam will be OP, AA cruisers will respec for radar and with that the BBs will be somewhat unplayable due to torp spam and DD play will be unplayable due to radar spam. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
182 [F7_] SnowDriftTurtle Members 840 posts 10,865 battles Report post #3 Posted September 26, 2017 While I am all for having the current format help make Cruisers shine...I feel that entirely locking out a class is a bad thing and simply highlights the fact that CVs need work now. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
110 [NEIN] Iridium81 Beta Testers 583 posts 7,327 battles Report post #4 Posted September 26, 2017 It merely highlights WG's lack of game design and forethought. In terms of balance, CV game play, DD/CL/BB interaction etc; WG just doesn't seem to understand their own game well. Either that or greed is taking priority, and is resulting in a desire to keep the current state of the game for monetary reasons. I just don't understand why they continue to insist on gimmicks being the defining factor for nations... it seems hyperbolic, and damaging to game play overall. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,343 [BKSHD] MidnightShamalan Members 2,274 posts 7,317 battles Report post #5 Posted September 26, 2017 if the teams were larger, i'd agree with all the bandwagon whiners. but a 7v7 with T10 CVs? lol. no thanks. it's called clan wars, not clan CV target practice. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,848 Wulfgarn Members 5,597 posts 7,121 battles Report post #6 Posted September 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, MidnightShamalan said: if the teams were larger, i'd agree with all the bandwagon whiners. but a 7v7 with T10 CVs? lol. no thanks. it's called clan wars, not clan CV target practice. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10,399 [B2P] Taichunger Members 13,459 posts 44,054 battles Report post #7 Posted September 26, 2017 15 hours ago, MidnightShamalan said: if the teams were larger, i'd agree with all the bandwagon whiners. but a 7v7 with T10 CVs? lol. no thanks. it's called clan wars, not clan CV target practice. Exactly. A game with a good CV driver would be a pointless exercise in seeing how much damage they got. No fun for anyone else. That said, it will be difficult to find a fun meta since T10 ships are glass cannons with plenty of abilities... would be so much better if tiers varied.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
12,644 [SALVO] Crucis Members 28,246 posts 43,741 battles Report post #8 Posted September 26, 2017 13 minutes ago, MidnightShamalan said: if the teams were larger, i'd agree with all the bandwagon whiners. but a 7v7 with T10 CVs? lol. no thanks. it's called clan wars, not clan CV target practice. Actually, it's called Clan BATTLES, not Clan Wars. And I suspect that these CB's will be more like WoT's stronghold battles than WoT's CW's. I think that this is just WoWS' way of building their way up to full fledged CW's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,370 Terrible_Turtle Members 5,202 posts Report post #9 Posted September 26, 2017 22 minutes ago, smf117 said: Without them the torp spam will be OP, AA cruisers will respec for radar and with that the BBs will be somewhat unplayable due to torp spam and DD play will be unplayable due to radar spam. False, because all the cruisers will now take hydro instead of defensive fire. Also, no need to spec for AA now. All ships will take Vigilance. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,860 [PVE] Kizarvexis Members 20,319 posts 13,642 battles Report post #10 Posted September 26, 2017 27 minutes ago, zuga_01 said: Poll: No CVs in Clan War - Good or Bad? You need a 'meh' option for those that think it is neither good nor bad and you forgot BACON! shame on you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
412 senseNOTmade Members 691 posts 7,037 battles Report post #11 Posted September 26, 2017 I've noticed that people tend to blame ship types they don't play for the problems in WoWs. For instance, I mostly play CV and CAs, so I usually blame BBs for everything. I'd wager a lot of people are doing the same here; blaming CVs for their problems because all they know about the class is that one time they got deleted by a Taiho and didn't understand why. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 anonym_MbpaxbbAUblh Members 589 posts Report post #12 Posted September 26, 2017 1 minute ago, Kizarvexis said: You need a 'meh' option for those that think it is neither good nor bad and you forgot BACON! shame on you lol just wanted the poll to be straight. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,860 [PVE] Kizarvexis Members 20,319 posts 13,642 battles Report post #13 Posted September 26, 2017 Just now, zuga_01 said: lol just wanted the poll to be straight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
410 [PLPTR] Cpt_RickSchwifty [PLPTR] Beta Testers 1,252 posts 6,371 battles Report post #14 Posted September 26, 2017 27 minutes ago, MidnightShamalan said: if the teams were larger, i'd agree with all the bandwagon whiners. but a 7v7 with T10 CVs? lol. no thanks. it's called clan wars, not clan CV target practice. There's a reason after the invention of the Carrier that battleships and pretty much all large slow moving ships became irrelevant or turned into missile frigates. It holds true for this game as well, there are only about 200 active T10 CV players on the entire NA server, dunno where all the rage over this is coming from, T6-7 Cv players I guess cause that is where 90% of the CV player base quits playing their CVs. Not like there would be any variety anyhow, you want to take your midway into clan wars...? I think not. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
148 [-YK-] Kerrec Members 494 posts 8,963 battles Report post #15 Posted September 26, 2017 I voted good, but not because I think CV's are bad. I think it's good, because it will produce data that WG can use to compare against if they introduce CV's in CW season 2. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,260 cometguy Members 2,992 posts 5,204 battles Report post #16 Posted September 26, 2017 They could always force the CV to be tier 9 or even tier 8. Heck, they should let players choose. Up to 1 t8 CV Up to 2 t9 BBs, or a t9 and t10 if no CV, and t10 anything else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10,399 [B2P] Taichunger Members 13,459 posts 44,054 battles Report post #17 Posted September 26, 2017 15 hours ago, senseNOTmade said: I've noticed that people tend to blame ship types they don't play for the problems in WoWs. For instance, I mostly play CV and CAs, so I usually blame BBs for everything. I'd wager a lot of people are doing the same here; blaming CVs for their problems because all they know about the class is that one time they got deleted by a Taiho and didn't understand why. Yes, that's right, thousands of players, with tens of thousands of games... still mystified. It's amazing, this diagnosis of yours. I await your next brilliant insight with a shudder of anticipation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
350 [GROGS] RobertViktor68 Beta Testers 1,197 posts 16,102 battles Report post #18 Posted September 26, 2017 always good Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
662 [13TH] HMCS_Devilfish Members 4,901 posts 9,124 battles Report post #19 Posted September 26, 2017 Its just the beginning of Clan wars, this will be fun for Cruisers and you can count on one thing the next Clan wars will be different... life is change just like this game Adapt-Improvise-Overcome Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
17 The_Red_Butcher Members 124 posts 6,720 battles Report post #20 Posted September 26, 2017 50 minutes ago, smf117 said: Without them the torp spam will be OP, AA cruisers will respec for radar and with that the BBs will be somewhat unplayable due to torp spam and DD play will be unplayable due to radar spam. While there is bound to be some at high skill play I doubt there will be because there's a limit on 1 large ship per team so gunboats are going to be much more impactful this time arround. Cruisers and DD's simply maneuver too much for reliable torp hits when one could instead bring ships with dominant artillery. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,014 Parliament_Funkadelic Members 7,122 posts 27,339 battles Report post #21 Posted September 26, 2017 1 conqueror and 6 mino's, 3 with radar working in tandem with 3 with smoke. GG Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
410 [PLPTR] Cpt_RickSchwifty [PLPTR] Beta Testers 1,252 posts 6,371 battles Report post #22 Posted September 26, 2017 2 minutes ago, Kerrec said: I voted good, but not because I think CV's are bad. I think it's good, because it will produce data that WG can use to compare against if they introduce CV's in CW season 2. Is that what people are getting hung up on...? They think that just because WG has excluded them in a 7v7 competative format that we all think CVs are bad?? WG already understands there are major issues with CVs, they are behind on thier promised fixes, they are behind on thier clan wars implementation. So this is how its going to work, it's really not a big deal. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
410 [PLPTR] Cpt_RickSchwifty [PLPTR] Beta Testers 1,252 posts 6,371 battles Report post #23 Posted September 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, Sweetsie said: 1 conqueror and 6 mino's, 3 with radar working in tandem with 3 with smoke. GG And 4 Gearings sitting back at 10km spamming torps into the smoke......the smoke meta is not going to last. That conqueror will be visible if it shoots and if 6 minos want to sit in a 2 ring smoke bubble chaining smoke its going to make for a lot of double strikes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
282 Mavairo Beta Testers 1,465 posts 4,344 battles Report post #24 Posted September 26, 2017 This isn't a good decision, at all. Between how obscene the british bbs are and now this, my vacation from the game is becoming ever longer. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,715 [WHIPI] Snoopys_Odyssey Members 1,637 posts 19,167 battles Report post #25 Posted September 26, 2017 How about a compromise? Allow only T8 CVs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites