143 [AFW-] zuga_01 Members 972 posts 7,537 battles Report post #1 Posted September 26, 2017 Poll: No CVs in Clan War - Good or Bad? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
299 [UDEAD] smf117 Members 708 posts 6,621 battles Report post #2 Posted September 26, 2017 Without them the torp spam will be OP, AA cruisers will respec for radar and with that the BBs will be somewhat unplayable due to torp spam and DD play will be unplayable due to radar spam. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
182 [TF16] Sock5 Members 840 posts 7,393 battles Report post #3 Posted September 26, 2017 While I am all for having the current format help make Cruisers shine...I feel that entirely locking out a class is a bad thing and simply highlights the fact that CVs need work now. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
110 [NEIN] Iridium81 Beta Testers 583 posts 6,650 battles Report post #4 Posted September 26, 2017 It merely highlights WG's lack of game design and forethought. In terms of balance, CV game play, DD/CL/BB interaction etc; WG just doesn't seem to understand their own game well. Either that or greed is taking priority, and is resulting in a desire to keep the current state of the game for monetary reasons. I just don't understand why they continue to insist on gimmicks being the defining factor for nations... it seems hyperbolic, and damaging to game play overall. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,245 MidnightShamalan Members 2,207 posts 5,424 battles Report post #5 Posted September 26, 2017 if the teams were larger, i'd agree with all the bandwagon whiners. but a 7v7 with T10 CVs? lol. no thanks. it's called clan wars, not clan CV target practice. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,820 Wulfgarn Members 5,575 posts 7,121 battles Report post #6 Posted September 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, MidnightShamalan said: if the teams were larger, i'd agree with all the bandwagon whiners. but a 7v7 with T10 CVs? lol. no thanks. it's called clan wars, not clan CV target practice. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,700 [INTEL] Taichunger Members 11,040 posts 30,958 battles Report post #7 Posted September 26, 2017 15 hours ago, MidnightShamalan said: if the teams were larger, i'd agree with all the bandwagon whiners. but a 7v7 with T10 CVs? lol. no thanks. it's called clan wars, not clan CV target practice. Exactly. A game with a good CV driver would be a pointless exercise in seeing how much damage they got. No fun for anyone else. That said, it will be difficult to find a fun meta since T10 ships are glass cannons with plenty of abilities... would be so much better if tiers varied.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7,582 [SALVO] Crucis Members 22,374 posts 22,802 battles Report post #8 Posted September 26, 2017 13 minutes ago, MidnightShamalan said: if the teams were larger, i'd agree with all the bandwagon whiners. but a 7v7 with T10 CVs? lol. no thanks. it's called clan wars, not clan CV target practice. Actually, it's called Clan BATTLES, not Clan Wars. And I suspect that these CB's will be more like WoT's stronghold battles than WoT's CW's. I think that this is just WoWS' way of building their way up to full fledged CW's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,371 _Untaken_ Members 5,202 posts 9,487 battles Report post #9 Posted September 26, 2017 22 minutes ago, smf117 said: Without them the torp spam will be OP, AA cruisers will respec for radar and with that the BBs will be somewhat unplayable due to torp spam and DD play will be unplayable due to radar spam. False, because all the cruisers will now take hydro instead of defensive fire. Also, no need to spec for AA now. All ships will take Vigilance. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,411 [PVE] Kizarvexis Members 16,766 posts 10,908 battles Report post #10 Posted September 26, 2017 27 minutes ago, zuga_01 said: Poll: No CVs in Clan War - Good or Bad? You need a 'meh' option for those that think it is neither good nor bad and you forgot BACON! shame on you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
407 [MIA-P] senseNOTmade Members 688 posts 7,034 battles Report post #11 Posted September 26, 2017 I've noticed that people tend to blame ship types they don't play for the problems in WoWs. For instance, I mostly play CV and CAs, so I usually blame BBs for everything. I'd wager a lot of people are doing the same here; blaming CVs for their problems because all they know about the class is that one time they got deleted by a Taiho and didn't understand why. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
143 [AFW-] zuga_01 Members 972 posts 7,537 battles Report post #12 Posted September 26, 2017 1 minute ago, Kizarvexis said: You need a 'meh' option for those that think it is neither good nor bad and you forgot BACON! shame on you lol just wanted the poll to be straight. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,411 [PVE] Kizarvexis Members 16,766 posts 10,908 battles Report post #13 Posted September 26, 2017 Just now, zuga_01 said: lol just wanted the poll to be straight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
410 [PLPTR] Cpt_RickSchwifty [PLPTR] Beta Testers 1,252 posts 6,266 battles Report post #14 Posted September 26, 2017 27 minutes ago, MidnightShamalan said: if the teams were larger, i'd agree with all the bandwagon whiners. but a 7v7 with T10 CVs? lol. no thanks. it's called clan wars, not clan CV target practice. There's a reason after the invention of the Carrier that battleships and pretty much all large slow moving ships became irrelevant or turned into missile frigates. It holds true for this game as well, there are only about 200 active T10 CV players on the entire NA server, dunno where all the rage over this is coming from, T6-7 Cv players I guess cause that is where 90% of the CV player base quits playing their CVs. Not like there would be any variety anyhow, you want to take your midway into clan wars...? I think not. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
148 [PLPTE] Kerrec Members 493 posts 6,886 battles Report post #15 Posted September 26, 2017 I voted good, but not because I think CV's are bad. I think it's good, because it will produce data that WG can use to compare against if they introduce CV's in CW season 2. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,259 cometguy Members 2,992 posts 5,204 battles Report post #16 Posted September 26, 2017 They could always force the CV to be tier 9 or even tier 8. Heck, they should let players choose. Up to 1 t8 CV Up to 2 t9 BBs, or a t9 and t10 if no CV, and t10 anything else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,700 [INTEL] Taichunger Members 11,040 posts 30,958 battles Report post #17 Posted September 26, 2017 15 hours ago, senseNOTmade said: I've noticed that people tend to blame ship types they don't play for the problems in WoWs. For instance, I mostly play CV and CAs, so I usually blame BBs for everything. I'd wager a lot of people are doing the same here; blaming CVs for their problems because all they know about the class is that one time they got deleted by a Taiho and didn't understand why. Yes, that's right, thousands of players, with tens of thousands of games... still mystified. It's amazing, this diagnosis of yours. I await your next brilliant insight with a shudder of anticipation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
339 [MIA-E] RobertViktor68 Beta Testers 1,177 posts 11,792 battles Report post #18 Posted September 26, 2017 always good Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
658 [13TH] HMCS_Devilfish Members 4,895 posts 8,482 battles Report post #19 Posted September 26, 2017 Its just the beginning of Clan wars, this will be fun for Cruisers and you can count on one thing the next Clan wars will be different... life is change just like this game Adapt-Improvise-Overcome Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
17 The_Red_Butcher Members 124 posts 6,443 battles Report post #20 Posted September 26, 2017 50 minutes ago, smf117 said: Without them the torp spam will be OP, AA cruisers will respec for radar and with that the BBs will be somewhat unplayable due to torp spam and DD play will be unplayable due to radar spam. While there is bound to be some at high skill play I doubt there will be because there's a limit on 1 large ship per team so gunboats are going to be much more impactful this time arround. Cruisers and DD's simply maneuver too much for reliable torp hits when one could instead bring ships with dominant artillery. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,328 [PHASE] Waxing_Gibbous Members 4,973 posts 16,740 battles Report post #21 Posted September 26, 2017 1 conqueror and 6 mino's, 3 with radar working in tandem with 3 with smoke. GG Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
410 [PLPTR] Cpt_RickSchwifty [PLPTR] Beta Testers 1,252 posts 6,266 battles Report post #22 Posted September 26, 2017 2 minutes ago, Kerrec said: I voted good, but not because I think CV's are bad. I think it's good, because it will produce data that WG can use to compare against if they introduce CV's in CW season 2. Is that what people are getting hung up on...? They think that just because WG has excluded them in a 7v7 competative format that we all think CVs are bad?? WG already understands there are major issues with CVs, they are behind on thier promised fixes, they are behind on thier clan wars implementation. So this is how its going to work, it's really not a big deal. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
410 [PLPTR] Cpt_RickSchwifty [PLPTR] Beta Testers 1,252 posts 6,266 battles Report post #23 Posted September 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, Sweetsie said: 1 conqueror and 6 mino's, 3 with radar working in tandem with 3 with smoke. GG And 4 Gearings sitting back at 10km spamming torps into the smoke......the smoke meta is not going to last. That conqueror will be visible if it shoots and if 6 minos want to sit in a 2 ring smoke bubble chaining smoke its going to make for a lot of double strikes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
284 [-MS-] Mavairo Beta Testers 1,465 posts 4,061 battles Report post #24 Posted September 26, 2017 This isn't a good decision, at all. Between how obscene the british bbs are and now this, my vacation from the game is becoming ever longer. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
450 [LWA] db4100 Members 777 posts 11,471 battles Report post #25 Posted September 26, 2017 How about a compromise? Allow only T8 CVs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
