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Not my carry, but rather the Yamato on our team.  Certainly, he put a lot of work into our win.  However, throughout the match he was incredibly rude and raging at our team, and when I pointed out we were winning he then focused all his elitism on me, criticizing my play and saying that he had to carry my uselessness.  For the record, I was in a fully stock Iowa and did 150k in damage, was up front at the B cap within 12km of two enemy FDGs and using our ally Minotaur's smoke at a crucial moment(which was around the point when this guy starting raging at all of us.)

 

I almost feel like I'd rather have lost the match if it meant not having this guy on our team.

 

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So what exactly is the issue? You just felt the need to come to the forums and post this because someone got mad at you because he had to carry dead weight?

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19 minutes ago, Seraphil said:

Not my carry, but rather the Yamato on our team.  Certainly, he put a lot of work into our win.  However, throughout the match he was incredibly rude and raging at our team, and when I pointed out we were winning he then focused all his elitism on me, criticizing my play and saying that he had to carry my uselessness.  For the record, I was in a fully stock Iowa and did 150k in damage, was up front at the B cap within 12km of two enemy FDGs and using our ally Minotaur's smoke at a crucial moment(which was around the point when this guy starting raging at all of us.)

 

I almost feel like I'd rather have lost the match if it meant not having this guy on our team.

 

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Some people are just jerks, report them and move on to the next game.

 

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13 minutes ago, aAkula said:

So what exactly is the issue? You just felt the need to come to the forums and post this because someone got mad at you because he had to carry dead weight?

 

 Pretty much this. What is the point of posting on the forum because someone disliked you for whatever reason? Group hugs? Reality check: not everyone will like you.

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Yep, there are a lot of disgusting people out there who feel that because they're slightly better at a game they have the right to treat you like human trash, and then there are the people who justify that behavior because they don't understand the consequences of it.

It's all ignorance, really. You can't do anything about it but ignore them and hope they learn.

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9 minutes ago, Elegant_Winter said:

Yep, there are a lot of disgusting people out there who feel that because they're slightly better at a game they have the right to treat you like human trash, and then there are the people who justify that behavior because they don't understand the consequences of it.

It's all ignorance, really. You can't do anything about it but ignore them and hope they learn.

 

TBH that is not the case at Tier 10. Tier 10 feels like WG is selling some kind of tier 10 starter pack... I understand his anger.

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1 minute ago, joris92 said:

TBH that is not the case at Tier 10. Tier 10 feels like WG is selling some kind of tier 10 starter pack... I understand his anger.

The second half of that sentence applies to you, I think.

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Meh, just move on, no need to let someone on the internet get to you. What's the worst he could do? Put letters on a screen?

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Just now, Doomlock said:

Meh, just move on, no need to let someone on the internet get to you. What's the worst he could do? Put letters on a screen?

Words have no power. That's why no one reads.

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8 minutes ago, Elegant_Winter said:

Words have no power. That's why no one reads.

Words have plenty of power. That's why such figures as Adolf Hitler or Martin Luther King Jr. Had such stirring speeches.

 

Same goes for bullies. If words had no power, there'd be no bullies.

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19 minutes ago, Doomlock said:

Words have plenty of power. That's why such figures as Adolf Hitler had such stirring speeches.

Same goes for bullies. If words had no power, there'd be no bullies.

I agree.

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8 minutes ago, Doomlock said:

Words have plenty of power. That's why such figures as Adolf Hitler or Martin Luther King Jr. Had such stirring speeches.

 

Same goes for bullies. If words had no power, there'd be no bullies.

+1 for that little piece of philosophy there @Doomlock

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You have to wonder about the motives of the people who minimize this kind of behavior or say stuff like "words have no power" without sarcasm. Are they minimizing immoral behavior partly to excuse their own? That's what it seems like to me.

It's absurd that some people feel justified in treating others like they're worthless trash based solely on their performance in a game - and in this match you even did very well and you were still targeted. It just goes to show that some of these disgusting people will go on tirades and whatnot even when they don't make sense. That's how angry they are, and that's how little self-control they have. They just target anyone who appears within their range of vision, regardless of whether or not that person deserves it.

I don't often get angry over what happens in a game because I realize firstly that I don't have control over other people. Secondly I understand that having expectations of others will only lead to frustration, because other people aren't out to meet my expectations. They're playing to enjoy themselves, or maybe to win, or maybe even something else.

You have to wonder about how mentally developed these people are - the ones who treat others like human trash over something that's ultimately extremely trivial. Specifically, I wonder about their "theory of mind" and ability to feel empathy. I wonder to what extent they realize the others in the game are complete beings, who have internal experiences as real and as deep as their own; complete beings who feel, think, love, dream, have awareness and intentions and aspirations. All of what makes a human a human. It seems like they don't attribute all of this to other people. They view them and treat them like they're insects to be smashed and that's it.

That's the part that upsets me. I try very hard to treat other people decently, and while I'm far from perfect, I at least have an honest intention to do others justice, to recognize that they have all of what I have happening inside of me happening inside of them. It seems like some don't even try to acknowledge this simple truth. They're perfectly content with living in a universe in which they are the only "real" one. It's so disgusting to me. Who would want to live such an impoverished life? Who would want to continue to delude themselves like that?

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Just go on living this is such a small issue.

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2 minutes ago, Elegant_Winter said:

That's the part that upsets me. I try very hard to treat other people decently, and while I'm far from perfect, I at least have an honest intention to do others justice, to recognize that they have all of what I have happening inside of me happening inside of them.

 

33 minutes ago, Elegant_Winter said:

The second half of that sentence applies to you, I think.

 

Yes, thanks.

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11 minutes ago, Elegant_Winter said:

You have to wonder about the motives of the people who minimize this kind of behavior or say stuff like "words have no power" without sarcasm. Are they minimizing immoral behavior partly to excuse their own? That's what it seems like to me.

It's absurd that some people feel justified in treating others like they're worthless trash based solely on their performance in a game - and in this match you even did very well and you were still targeted. It just goes to show that some of these disgusting people will go on tirades and whatnot even when they don't make sense. That's how angry they are, and that's how little self-control they have. They just target anyone who appears within their range of vision, regardless of whether or not that person deserves it.

I don't often get angry over what happens in a game because I realize firstly that I don't have control over other people. Secondly I understand that having expectations of others will only lead to frustration, because other people aren't out to meet my expectations. They're playing to enjoy themselves, or maybe to win, or maybe even something else.

You have to wonder about how mentally developed these people are - the ones who treat others like human trash over something that's ultimately extremely trivial. Specifically, I wonder about their "theory of mind" and ability to feel empathy. I wonder to what extent they realize the others in the game are complete beings, who have internal experiences as real and as deep as their own; complete beings who feel, think, love, dream, have awareness and intentions and aspirations. All of what makes a human a human. It seems like they don't attribute all of this to the other people. They view them and treat them like they're insects to be smashed and that's it.

That's the part that upsets me. I try very hard to treat other people decently, and while I'm far from perfect, I at least have an honest intention to do others justice, to recognize that they have all of what I have happening inside of me happening inside of them. It seems like some don't even try to acknowledge this simple truth. They're perfectly content in living in a universe in which they are the only "real" one. It's so disgusting to me. Who would want to live such an impoverished life? Who would want to continue to delude themselves like that?

 

LOL.

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18 minutes ago, Elegant_Winter said:

I didn't mean to describe you so accurately. It just happened.

 

I'm sure I'll still get a full night's rest, don't worry. 

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Just now, aAkula said:

I'm sure I'll still get a full night's rest, don't worry. 

Remember to reflect on your behavior. Reflection is essential to self-improvement. Good night, mate.

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Had a similar experience in Minotaur where a Monty kept sniping and farming a lot of damage more or less protected from everything except CV attacks (and our CV escorted him), and I snorted he was part of the campfest problem because despite given notice of the reds pulling back from C, he refused to tank.

 

Minotaur, so of course I'd have tough or impossible time outdoing him in base XP, but he was a jerk.

 

WG censoring this kind of attitude? Never happen, they're not the babysitters.

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1 hour ago, Elegant_Winter said:

You have to wonder about the motives of the people who minimize this kind of behavior or say stuff like "words have no power" without sarcasm. Are they minimizing immoral behavior partly to excuse their own? That's what it seems like to me.

It's absurd that some people feel justified in treating others like they're worthless trash based solely on their performance in a game - and in this match you even did very well and you were still targeted. It just goes to show that some of these disgusting people will go on tirades and whatnot even when they don't make sense. That's how angry they are, and that's how little self-control they have. They just target anyone who appears within their range of vision, regardless of whether or not that person deserves it.

I don't often get angry over what happens in a game because I realize firstly that I don't have control over other people. Secondly I understand that having expectations of others will only lead to frustration, because other people aren't out to meet my expectations. They're playing to enjoy themselves, or maybe to win, or maybe even something else.

You have to wonder about how mentally developed these people are - the ones who treat others like human trash over something that's ultimately extremely trivial. Specifically, I wonder about their "theory of mind" and ability to feel empathy. I wonder to what extent they realize the others in the game are complete beings, who have internal experiences as real and as deep as their own; complete beings who feel, think, love, dream, have awareness and intentions and aspirations. All of what makes a human a human. It seems like they don't attribute all of this to the other people. They view them and treat them like they're insects to be smashed and that's it.

That's the part that upsets me. I try very hard to treat other people decently, and while I'm far from perfect, I at least have an honest intention to do others justice, to recognize that they have all of what I have happening inside of me happening inside of them. It seems like some don't even try to acknowledge this simple truth. They're perfectly content in living in a universe in which they are the only "real" one. It's so disgusting to me. Who would want to live such an impoverished life? Who would want to continue to delude themselves like that?

 

Matthew 7:12. The Golden Rule applies here...

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Just now, Elegant_Winter said:

Which part of what I said are you applying it to? Please be specific.

 

I intended it for this, "I try very hard to treat other people decently, and while I'm far from perfect, I at least have an honest intention to do others justice," Sorry for the ambiguity. People don't get it applies on the internet as it should in person. 

 

 

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23 minutes ago, Khafni said:

I intended it for this, "I try very hard to treat other people decently, and while I'm far from perfect, I at least have an honest intention to do others justice," Sorry for the ambiguity. People don't get it applies on the internet as it should in person.

There's a disconnect somewhere, or maybe it's a lack of imagination. Whatever it is, some don't treat people on the Internet as real people. It doesn't occur to them that there is a complete human being somewhere who they're interacting with. That's part of it for some, but it's deeper for others.

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