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Yeah so she's 'not as good' as warspite, doesn't turn as well, not as accurate, slower turrets, but for some reason that doesn't seem to hinder her.

Warships.today doesn't seem to want to pull the NA server stats when I'm writing this, but on the EU server Warspite is pulling 51.52% WR and 50,196 DPG over the last two weeks vs QE's 51.49% and 50,265 DPG. Those numbers are remarkably close, considering one is a well established premium ship, and the other not only supposedly 'worse', but also a tech tree ship that less dedicated players will have to play through, and is affected by stock grind.

Here is a battle I just had in her, my first battle of the day, as bottom tier - nothing really special, but a nice battle to start the day with:

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I for one like both Warspite and Queen Elizabeth and will be keeping both in my port.

In fact, I spent the 1000 doubloons I got from an SC on a fresh coat of paint for her:

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Anyone else who found her not actually that bad?

Plus, I think QE is better looking, with a narrower 'head' and wider 'shoulders'.

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The only one in the line I have enjoyed playing, maybe cause its the one where AP is the stronger shell.

The rest is just shoot at whatever whenever, with the Queen you have to prioritize targets, and hold for good shots.  Much more interactive.

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While they are both great, I still like the Warspite better. 

10 minutes ago, LoneStormchaser said:

If she's as fun as the Duke is, I am looking forward to it.

Make sure to use AP in the Queen though.  For it's tier, it has amazing AP which is worth using, even though the HE is still great too.

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I'm still working my way up. With the anniversary missions, collection, Yamamoto, I haven't gotten to really grinding the UK BB line. I have the Duke, and she's fully upgraded, just gotta get the XP to research QE.

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If you are use to prebuff Warspite the QE is a breeze to play I enjoy both and really liking the KGV

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2 minutes ago, Triela50 said:

If you are use to prebuff Warspite

I am.

Just now, Kapitan_Wuff said:

Her premium camo is definitely better looking. 

It is.

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2 match and got upgraded hull.      doing fine even though been bottom tiered in both matches.     range is bit short for t8, but you can make it work. 

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Honestly, I was a bit lukewarm with her. But my problem is I'm biased because of the Warspite, a premium QE in the game since beta. And the Warspite is simply a better ship in absolutely every way other than AA, main battery range, and HE damage. So every time I took out the tech tree QE, I tried to play her like the Warspite and she just felt extraordinarily sluggish, inaccurate, with weak penning guns. In the end, I couldn't mentally reconcile those differences and I Free XPed to the KGV ... which so far I am liking.

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I'm lukewarm about her as well.  I have the Warspite, which makes grinding the QE disappointing.  Her HE is completely outmatched by the Iron Duke, her AA isn't that great, and the secondaries are a SHAMEFUL DISPLAY!

I even sent Jingles my Queen Elizabeth replay at 3:13 where the secondaries do nothing at all.  The only thing she has going for her is gun depression apparently.  I can't wait till I get the KGV...

 

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3 hours ago, ClockworkSpectre said:

While they are both great, I still like the Warspite better. 

Make sure to use AP in the Queen though.  For it's tier, it has amazing AP which is worth using, even though the HE is still great too.

 

If you are outside about 12km or so, HE is more consistent.  Under 12km or so, AP is very good.  At least, vs battleships.

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18 hours ago, KaptainKaybe said:

Honestly, I was a bit lukewarm with her. But my problem is I'm biased because of the Warspite, a premium QE in the game since beta. And the Warspite is simply a better ship in absolutely every way other than AA, main battery range, and HE damage. So every time I took out the tech tree QE, I tried to play her like the Warspite and she just felt extraordinarily sluggish, inaccurate, with weak penning guns. In the end, I couldn't mentally reconcile those differences and I Free XPed to the KGV ... which so far I am liking.

 

That was pretty much my experience. Also XPed to the KGV... hated that too... then XPed to Monarch, which is the nadir of the line. On Lion, which is almost like a real BB.

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I really, really, really want to like this ship.

I've liked her looks since I was a kid. Built the model etc.

 

In game, she just seems to have no redeeming features.

- Shells shatter

- 8 gun (die roll) HE is meh

- Glacial turrets

- Dispersion is very poor when applied to 8 guns

- Average reload.

- Spitball 4.5s in anti-ship mode

All adds up to low damage potential

 

- Poor acceleration

- Poor rate of turn

- Average speed

- Average armour

- Large superstructure vulnerable to IFHE

- Low torp resistance

All adds up to incoming damage from a single IFHE cruiser or average battleship far outstripping her damage control

 

 - Her AA is strong, but not enough to shift a game - especially when there are no carriers. And she's not fast enough to be a carrier escort...

 

There simply are no redeeming features to break almost every game entering a downward spiral of low damage, insufficient repair. The only games I have enjoyed have been those where the enemy forgot to shoot at me. But even in those my volleys would over-under/shatter more often than not.

 

And when Warspite had glacial turrets, at least you could aim the ship. Queen Elizabeth, not so much.

 

So, yeah. I'm a die-hard fan of Queen Elizabeth. Just not the one in-game.

 

 

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8 hours ago, Lert said:

Yeah so she's 'not as good' as warspite, doesn't turn as well, not as accurate, slower turrets, but for some reason that doesn't seem to hinder her.

Warships.today doesn't seem to want to pull the NA server stats when I'm writing this, but on the EU server Warspite is pulling 51.52% WR and 50,196 DPG over the last two weeks vs QE's 51.49% and 50,265 DPG. Those numbers are remarkably close, considering one is a well established premium ship, and the other not only supposedly 'worse', but also a tech tree ship that less dedicated players will have to play through, and is affected by stock grind.

Here is a battle I just had in her, my first battle of the day, as bottom tier - nothing really special, but a nice battle to start the day with:

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I for one like both Warspite and Queen Elizabeth and will be keeping both in my port.

In fact, I spent the 1000 doubloons I got from an SC on a fresh coat of paint for her:

1juNRrc.jpg

Anyone else who found her not actually that bad?

Plus, I think QE is better looking, with a narrower 'head' and wider 'shoulders'.

I finally purchased the QE. Though I was looking forward to her. I loved the Duke. I am curious though. I want to move my Capt from the Duke to the Queen, but I am hesitant to change his build. He currently has Prev Maint: Exp Mark: Super: Conceal: & AFT. Only a 14 point Capt. I am Curious. What you might recommend. My play style is "cautious" but I am not afraid to lead the charge. Just curious.

Even the Consumables. What might you recommend?

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I was slightly excited yesterday, after 12 games untouched by carriers a Bogue was going to try and launch an air strike on me!

Gosh, I was untouched - full AA - and he's lower tier, surely my 'Cleveland level' AA will reap a heavy toll. I Ctrl+clicked like the anti-CV pro I am. Swung into them. Anticipation rose...

Oh those planes came closer and closer 'ha ha!' I thought, 'finally this heretofore useless AA will be an advantage!'

 

Shot down one of the torpedo bombers on the way in. One.

Clipped a torp in the flank turning in (which I'm pretty confident I'd have avoided with Warspite's tighter turning circle...)

 

This ship is kinda lame.

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I am currently grinding through QE and this is the worst ship in entire game. I thought Iron Duke was bad, but QE is so bad I think Mikasa is a better ship!

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QE is my fav RN BB. A full AA spec captain makes her amazing for operations.

 

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22 minutes ago, HMS_Formidable said:

Her AA certainly isn't enough to protect her from a torpedo strike, whatever the tier.

 

You need to stack manual AA, AFT, BFT and the flag. Then you can have lots of fun in a training room. :Smile_honoring:

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QE (ran out of time but would've shoot down all the planes)

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Warspite (died on the second wave)

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I like the QE, I really do. But.. I get in far too many situations where I'd rather be in the Warspite. The poorer turning circle and turret traverse are incredibly frustrating and while the AA is great, it doesn't make up for the former. 

 

My only reason for wanting to keep the QE would be to make an AA captain build. 

 

After all, she isn't a bad ship, quite fun to play actually: but  WG giving her the old Warspite's turret traverse just has me scratching my head. 

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after 4 matches, i got her fully upgraded and it has been pretty good ride so far.  my first match had 19%  hit rate, but now my average is upto 28, so I am hitting 30 or so now,    pretty good accuracy on the gun .   46sec turret is usable with dunkirk and mods.   if I can maintain my current rate, I would be really happy.    should be easy grind to t7. 

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I really wish hull A had two smokestacks

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