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2 hours ago, JohnPJones said:

Ok, just didn’t know how extensive the shipyards in Russia capable of ships that large were

 

I think they could build the ships they need, but compared to other European countries, overall their shipbuilding industry is still in a bad state.  No capacity to build very large ships for example, maybe much larger than 70,000 tons.  They might be able to build a ship as big as a Yamato but in today's commercial shipping world, a Yamato would be a midget, and not being able to build huge ships is a big handicap.    Croatia, one of the countries that was part of the former Soviet Union, has an annual production greater than the entire Russia.   Vietnam, another small  country which Russia sells warships to, also pounds out much higher annual tonnage, if not ship numbers, compared to the whole of Russia.

 

Speaking of shipyards, this one came out from Dalian in December 2017.  What's interesting is that on the right, are two Type 055 destroyers that are simultaneously under construction.  Which is as you know, a 12,000 ton warship.   The dock appears to have space to build two more, or four Type 055s simultaneously.  In fact, to the left, there appears to be parts of two new ships that are being laid down, and my suspicion is two more Type 055s.   If the ones on the right are launched, then floated out and moored on the pier for fitting, I think the other two on the left may be rolled to the right.   The modules for the ships are on the upper part of the image, and the huge cranes to move them to the dock.  You can see the superstructures for the two ships there.

 

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Speaking of the Type 055, I believe this award is for creation of the monster cold press machine that is used to make hull plates for it.

 

 

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Argentina starts probe on fatal submarine accident.

 

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-42689310

 

South Korean Navy to soon receive another new AIP Type 214 class submarine.

 

http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20180119000180

 

Philippine Senate opposition seeks probe on frigate project.

 

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/nation/640253/senate-opposition-seeks-probe-on-controversial-frigate-project/story/

 

Dutch Navy LPD and De Zeven Provincien class frigate to visit Dublin port.

 

https://afloat.ie/port-news/naval-visits/item/38221-dutch-navy-landing-dock-ship-and-frigate-to-visit-dublin-port

 

Oil slick from Iranian tanker explosion now the size of Paris.

 

https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Oil-Slick-From-Iranian-Tanker-Explosion-Is-Now-The-Size-Of-Paris.html

 

India tests long range ballistic missile.

 

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/01/18/578827004/india-tests-long-range-missile-lauding-major-boost-to-military-capability

 

Russian spy ship Victor Leonov heads back towards off US coastal waters.

 

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/01/18/russian-spy-ship-spotted-off-us-coast-year-ago-returns-to-region.html

 

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Someone (customer undisclosed) just made an order for coastal C-602 long range antiship missiles.

 

 

Lots of satellites being sent up this month.

 

 

I have been looking for some evidence that HHQ-9 is launched off the U-VLS  in the Type 052D in cold launch form, just as it is in the rounded VLS on the Type 052C and the land based form.  Finally got it.  YJ-18s are hot launched from the same VLS.

 

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Navy Recognition has a summary on all the FFG(X) contenders.  Lockheed Martin's  "Freedom" frigate?  Should note that Hunter Ingalls Patrol Frigate wasn't in the exhibition and so took a picture from a previous exhibition. 

 

 

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I would go with the TKMS offering.  It seems to be the one that would fall within the budget, while others are prone to cost overruns.

 

In other developments, this test site appears to test multiple large radars for the Chinese destroyers simultaneously before equipping the ships.

 

 

Cold launch vs. Hot Launch on U-VLS.

 

 

 

Greece on the market for new frigate.

 

 

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JohnPJones    88
1 hour ago, Eisennagel said:

 

I would go with the TKMS offering.  It seems to be the one that would fall within the budget, while others are prone to cost overruns.

 

In other developments, this test site appears to test multiple large radars for the Chinese destroyers simultaneously before equipping the ships.

 

 

Cold launch vs. Hot Launch on U-VLS.

 

 

 

Greece on the market for new frigate.

 

 

i'll look more at specs for the belharra but just looking at it makes me think of the zumwalt and that alone puts a bad taste in my mouth 

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Because of the inverted bow?  Many pre WW1 battleships have that.  Supposedly it offers reduced radar signature since it avoids the sharp corner when the bow meets the water surface that creates a radar corner reflection.

 

Belharra is the export version of France's FTI or Intermediate frigate, which is contemporary to other 4000 ton frigates.  This comes up, much like the case of Britain's Type 31, when 6000 to 7000 ton frigates like the FREMM or the Type 26, are getting too expensive to be bought in a dozen, so to secure that number, so they cut the orders for the big frigates, and throw the balance to cheaper frigate.

 

The specs are not bad, and it has a 32 VLS for a medium ranged Aster 30 SAM.  

 

https://www.naval-group.com/en/news/dcns-devoile-belhrra-la-fregate-numerique-de-nouvelle-generation/

 

In other news, Japan has finished development of the supersonic air to surface ASM-3.

 

http://www.janes.com/article/77196/japan-completes-development-of-asm-3-supersonic-air-to-ship-missile-says-report

 

Indian aircraft carriers might be the ultimate paper tiger.

 

http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/indias-aircraft-carriers-might-just-be-the-ultimate-paper-24138

 

China's next aircraft carrier will be a massive leap forward.

 

http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/navy-ships/a15392390/chinas-next-aircraft-carrier-002/

 

Costly aircraft carrier program leaves UK defense budget exposed financially.

 

https://www.forces.net/news/costly-aircraft-carrier-programme-leaves-defence-budget-exposed-financially

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Here is another huge dock in China.  In the dock there is a Type 071 LPD being finished, which is around 25,000 tons, and next to it is a Type 054A frigate being finished, about 4000 tons.  To the corner of the picture is another LPD being fitted.

 

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JohnPJones    88

Some times I can be a cranky old man about things and the inverted bow and the rest of the look just reminds me too much of Zumwalt (trying to look to futuristic) for me to be able to like it.

i acknowledge its a ridiculous line of reasoning, just can’t help it

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Eisennagel    1,296

 

Inverted bows goes all the way back to ancient times like the Greeks.  Useful for ramming then.

 

Search and track radar.

 

 

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Sovremenny class destroyer Fuzhou (DDG 137) gets a delegation from the city of Fuzhou.  This may suggest that its modernization refit may begin at the start of the Chinese New Year.

 

 

The refitted Sovremennys will have the same level of equipment as the sole refitted Type 051B destroyer.

 

 

USS Fitzgerald, set on a transport, finally arrives at Mississippi.  This is one collision that isn't covered by insurance but by tax payers.

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5287095/Welcome-set-damaged-Navy-ship-arrives-repairs.html

 

USS Little Rock remains stuck in Canada thanks to ice.

 

http://www.businessinsider.com/us-navy-lcs-little-rock-stuck-montreal-ice-2018-1

 

India to discuss prices for acquiring frigates from Russia.

 

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/india-to-kick-off-price-talks-for-russian-warships-next-week/story-jSTrLImv8M81RnBozAv26M.html

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New Chinese oceanographic surveillance or SURTASS vessel begins sea trials.

 

 

 

 

 

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Comparing the bow designs of the Belharra/FTI frigate with the Zumwalt.  Other than both being inverted bows, there seems to be a big difference. 

 

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Exercise of confrontation between two large amphibious fleets  in the South China Seas.

 

 

27th Escort Fleet leaves Tunisia after a visit for 5 days.

 

 

South China Seas Fleet recently deploys a new type ECW aircraft based on the H-6, the H-6G.

 

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/chinese-navy-gets-new-electronic-warfare-aircraft-report-1803181

 

Russian spy ship spotted 100 miles off the coast of North Carolina in international waters.

 

http://ktla.com/2018/01/22/russian-spy-ship-spotted-100-miles-off-coast-of-north-carolina-in-international-waters/

 

Amphibious maneuver with American and French forces.

 

 

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35 minutes ago, Eisennagel said:

Kinda a waste, considering a Tu-95 would never get close enough to launch them back in the 80s, much less today, lol.

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