1,096 [GGWP] Destroyer_Zeka Beta Testers 2,386 posts 14,331 battles Report post #1 Posted September 12, 2017 In the past couple of weeks I've had more then a few people get on my case about how much I play VMF DDs. I have about 725 battles in the Udaloi alone, and another 450 or so in the Khabarovsk. At the time my response was "I'll play the ships I enjoy playing," to which they simply replied "But what about them do you enjoy?" Thats where I started thinking. There are two reasons I love my Soviet DDs. 1.) I love their playstyle. They fit my mold well. They're fast and generally maneuverable, theyre hard AF to hit. And their guns are potent. I love being a fly in the soup. I love being annoying. I love harvesting salt. Hell, I changed my name so that when I burn down BBs their screen says "Warship destroyed by FireAndHEspam," which is true in more ways then one. I love farming Witherers and Dreadnoughts in the Khabarovsk, and I love racking up tons of damage in Udaloi. The second reason is 2.) They're performance is very consistent for me. Me, being the massive stat buff I am, I play to watch those stats increase. I'm nearing an average 60k damage per game, and a ~58% WR to boot. Anyways, my performance in my RU DDs are always consistent. WR may fluctuate a little bit but for the most prt I maintain my high damage and WR stats in them. They don't get screwed over by the same things that would screw over a stealth DDs, things like Radar and Hydro, because, for one thing, you can already see shells iust fine. And you can also see that Khabarovsk thats peppering you with them just fine too. My performance in Gearing as a torp boat and performance in her in general fluctuates wildly. I can get 20k damage in one game and 200k in the next. While it's always satisfying to get those really nice games in, I'm not at the point where I can do 100k+ in almost every game that I play the way I can with my VKF DDs. Props to the ones who can, I tip my hat to you. These are the main two reasons I love my Soviet DDs. And these are usually the main reasons anyone can love any other line, probably. Some lines just click with certain people. My niche is with my beloved VMF DDs. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna link this to those guys on Discord.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,710 [WHIPI] Snoopys_Odyssey Members 1,619 posts 18,992 battles Report post #2 Posted September 12, 2017 The Khabarovsk is very OP..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
256 [WG-CC] Sharkbait_416 [WG-CC] Wiki Editor, Members 855 posts 9,538 battles Report post #3 Posted September 12, 2017 I enjoy Udaloi, I keep up with you in it (when I don't rush caps). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,841 [RLGN] Estimated_Prophet Members 19,264 posts 35,706 battles Report post #4 Posted September 12, 2017 Not really a stat hound... Hated the Russian ships with a passion because of all the usual complaints... ...so of course during the recent Grozvoy even what happened when I finally broke down and made the climb from Gnevny? I found I kind of liked the RU DDs... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,096 [GGWP] Destroyer_Zeka Beta Testers 2,386 posts 14,331 battles Report post #5 Posted September 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, Sharkbait_416 said: I enjoy Udaloi, I keep up with you in it (when I don't rush caps). People seem to enjoy shooting us lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
256 [WG-CC] Sharkbait_416 [WG-CC] Wiki Editor, Members 855 posts 9,538 battles Report post #6 Posted September 12, 2017 19 minutes ago, FireAndHEspam said: People seem to enjoy shooting us lol Indeed. We have a tendency to be annoying to the red team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,096 [GGWP] Destroyer_Zeka Beta Testers 2,386 posts 14,331 battles Report post #7 Posted September 12, 2017 1 minute ago, Sharkbait_416 said: Indeed. We have a tendency to be annoying to the red team. Unless you let yourself get cornered against the map border while your engine, rudder, and fish are all knocked out, and you're burning. Wait....that sounds familiar Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
256 [WG-CC] Sharkbait_416 [WG-CC] Wiki Editor, Members 855 posts 9,538 battles Report post #8 Posted September 12, 2017 10 minutes ago, FireAndHEspam said: Unless you let yourself get cornered against the map border while your engine, rudder, and fish are all knocked out, and you're burning. Wait....that sounds familiar No idea what you're talking about! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3 MrT11 Members 7 posts 9,437 battles Report post #9 Posted September 12, 2017 Same reason I like playing the U.S. DD line. Just a different kind of play style with a different kind of spam i.e. mainly torpedoes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
525 RevolutionBlues Beta Testers 978 posts 4,372 battles Report post #10 Posted September 12, 2017 Maybe you like RU destroyers because they're the only DD's immune to the hatenerfs Wargaming has been throwing at DD's in an attempt to appease the unwashed masses who wanted World of Battleships? (And cried until they got it) 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,606 [O_O] desmo_2 Members 7,946 posts 22,514 battles Report post #11 Posted September 12, 2017 I am up to T8 and T9 in Russian DD's. I just don't do as well in them. I think I know what I need to do (play them like a fast, fragile cruiser), but my results just aren't that stellar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,782 [WOLF2] HazardDrake Beta Testers 6,749 posts 15,826 battles Report post #12 Posted September 12, 2017 Just be honest. They're overpowered and easy to do well in vs other DDs at that tier. Khabarovsk just became my most played ship this last week. The only reason they have stayed that way is because Russian. I love my USN DD, but since 6.3, why bother putting in the effort when I get much more consistent performance in my RU DDs? That and the fact that Grozevoi is now "Gearing, except good." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,782 [WOLF2] HazardDrake Beta Testers 6,749 posts 15,826 battles Report post #13 Posted September 12, 2017 14 minutes ago, desmo_2 said: I am up to T8 and T9 in Russian DD's. I just don't do as well in them. I think I know what I need to do (play them like a fast, fragile cruiser), but my results just aren't that stellar. Which T9? Trashcan is still a trashcan, but Udaloi is fantastic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
103 BrentD15 Members 646 posts 4,069 battles Report post #14 Posted September 12, 2017 10 hours ago, db4100 said: The Khabarovsk is very OP..... Remove Kebabarovsk. Shimakaze STRONK! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,606 [O_O] desmo_2 Members 7,946 posts 22,514 battles Report post #15 Posted September 12, 2017 Yeah, Tash is my T9. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
915 [--V--] SeaborneSumo Members 1,602 posts 14,841 battles Report post #16 Posted September 12, 2017 Glad you enjoy them. Its always good to find a ship you really have fun playing, even when you lose. I personally don't like the Russian DDs. And its probably because of this I do so poorly in them and have stalled in my grind at T9. But, to each their own. Vodka for everyone!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,110 [KSC] yashma -Members- 5,295 posts 9,603 battles Report post #17 Posted September 12, 2017 I decided to break my Khabarovsk out of retirement to do the latest round of the Yamamoto campaign, and it only took me 3-4 battles to get all the pins. *I just kept repeating the 40k spotting damage task, which is absurdly easy in a Khaba. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
348 [5IN] bassmasta76 Members 2,109 posts 10,709 battles Report post #18 Posted September 12, 2017 Khab is also my most played ship... over 300 games and it's still fun to play. Hate it or not, regardless of what people think, it is very good in it's role. Harass the enemy, draw their attention away from your team, burn anything and everything to the waterline. What's not to like? I'm <5k shy of getting Grozovoi (should be this morning), but Udaloi is a keeper in my book. I play it a lot like the Khab and have a lot of fun with it. I've got mine setup for AA, and it loves chewing up planes. I've tried Grozovoi and expect it to be even better than Udaloi for the long haul. b Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,096 [GGWP] Destroyer_Zeka Beta Testers 2,386 posts 14,331 battles Report post #19 Posted September 12, 2017 14 hours ago, MrT11 said: Same reason I like playing the U.S. DD line. Just a different kind of play style with a different kind of spam i.e. mainly torpedoes. Maybe you should change your name to FloodingAndTorpedoSpam 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9,860 [NMKJT] VTAdmiral Beta Testers 24,800 posts 3,947 battles Report post #20 Posted September 12, 2017 7 hours ago, BrentD15 said: Remove Kebabarovsk. Shimakaze STRONK! The only thing Shimakaze is competitive with is Gearing, for worst tier 10 destroyer in the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,498 Grizley Beta Testers 6,868 posts 4,189 battles Report post #21 Posted September 12, 2017 26 minutes ago, AraAragami said: The only thing Shimakaze is competitive with is Gearing, for worst tier 10 destroyer in the game. Most of the Shima problems stem from their captains refusing to contest caps and instead sailing sound at 18km missing loads of torps. One of the biggest buffs the Shima could get is removing those stupid torps. You can make a case for either of the other sets depending on play style but there is no defending the 20km torps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9,860 [NMKJT] VTAdmiral Beta Testers 24,800 posts 3,947 battles Report post #22 Posted September 12, 2017 13 minutes ago, Grizley said: Most of the Shima problems stem from their captains refusing to contest caps and instead sailing sound at 18km missing loads of torps. One of the biggest buffs the Shima could get is removing those stupid torps. You can make a case for either of the other sets depending on play style but there is no defending the 20km torps. Yeah thanks for the insult. I use the 9.6km torpedoes. The 20s are widely known to be trash (though you do have to grind through them, so many captains are stuck with them) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,498 Grizley Beta Testers 6,868 posts 4,189 battles Report post #23 Posted September 12, 2017 59 minutes ago, AraAragami said: Yeah thanks for the insult. I use the 9.6km torpedoes. The 20s are widely known to be trash (though you do have to grind through them, so many captains are stuck with them) Take it as an insult or not. The Shima has a powerful tool set, but most of the captains ignore the strengths in favor of trying to avoid any contact with the enemy team short of long range torps. That isn't an effective way to play the Shima. Then they complain about it. That's like playing a Des Moines and complaining that it's not good at long range gun fights with BBs in open water. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9,860 [NMKJT] VTAdmiral Beta Testers 24,800 posts 3,947 battles Report post #24 Posted September 12, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Grizley said: Take it as an insult or not. The Shima has a powerful tool set, but most of the captains ignore the strengths in favor of trying to avoid any contact with the enemy team short of long range torps. That isn't an effective way to play the Shima. Then they complain about it. That's like playing a Des Moines and complaining that it's not good at long range gun fights with BBs in open water. So your reasoning for Shimakaze vying with Gearing for worst tier 10 destroyer is "Well everyone just plays it wrong". Just making sure I understand you. Edited September 12, 2017 by AraAragami Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,498 Grizley Beta Testers 6,868 posts 4,189 battles Report post #25 Posted September 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, AraAragami said: So your reasoning for Shimakaze vying with Gearing for worst tier 10 destroyer is "Well everyone just plays it wrong". Just making sure I understand you. Short of the Kurfurst it's the ship I see played terribly the most often. Kurfurst BBabies tend to play like either snipers or very large guided torpedos without much between. The baDDies in Shimas tend to either completely avoid caps and play torpedo sniper or to dinner face first into half a dozen enemies and cry about lacking support. I would say at least half the Shimas I see have that problem. Mostly of the sniper variety "dood I have so meny torpps I haf 2 use them". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites