1,941 [BOTES] pikohan [BOTES] Members 3,641 posts 18,963 battles Report post #1 Posted September 9, 2017 I pretty much don't do cruisers on the Live server, but I played the radar Minotaur in PTS, and it felt pretty legit, even for a mediocre cruiser captain like myself. Doesn't seem like it would farm damage as well as a smoke Minotaur, but the meta was asking for it... just sail up next to one of the many smoked Minotaurs or DDs and #whatiscounterplay. Anyone actually run this for real? I feel like it'd be a more viable mainstream build if our queue wasn't chock full of BBs all the time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
825 [ARMDA] Unabletony Members 9,004 posts 6,633 battles Report post #2 Posted September 9, 2017 If you can bring a Gearing or another Mino with smoke, then yes. Yuro demonstrates that here: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,941 [BOTES] pikohan [BOTES] Members 3,641 posts 18,963 battles Report post #3 Posted September 9, 2017 Yeah, Yuro's vid was partly what prompted me to give it a try. He makes it sound like a really fringe build though, that's why I'm curious to see if anyone actually runs it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
473 LemonadeWarrior Members 1,776 posts 6,776 battles Report post #4 Posted September 9, 2017 Currently at the Neptune, but thanks to Yuro I play it with radar. It is way more fun thn smoke. I still hate it that he stopped. I find the other YouTubers boring :( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
303 [UDEAD] smf117 Members 708 posts 8,598 battles Report post #5 Posted September 9, 2017 18 minutes ago, joris92 said: Currently at the Neptune, but thanks to Yuro I play it with radar. It is way more fun thn smoke. I still hate it that he stopped. I find the other YouTubers boring :( He didnt stop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,941 [BOTES] pikohan [BOTES] Members 3,641 posts 18,963 battles Report post #6 Posted September 9, 2017 11 minutes ago, smf117 said: He didnt stop. Yeah, he's streaming now too, though sometimes it's hard to understand him cuz his accent's pretty thick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,894 [HINON] Doomlock [HINON] Wiki Lead, Beta Testers, Privateers 6,801 posts 5,248 battles Report post #7 Posted September 9, 2017 36 minutes ago, joris92 said: I still hate it that he stopped. I find the other YouTubers boring :( Like the others said, he didn't stop, he started streaming. Here is his first highlight reel from streaming: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
183 [SPTR] Rusty_Python Members 2,319 posts 3,792 battles Report post #8 Posted September 9, 2017 I want more of his "How To" vids though.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,247 [SCCC] FayFay731 Members 1,137 posts 9,687 battles Report post #9 Posted September 9, 2017 With the current meta, I'd go with smoke. The RN CLs need that safety blanket, radar puts you more at risk of dying. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,562 [SYN] Kapitan_Wuff Members 8,292 posts 14,496 battles Report post #10 Posted September 9, 2017 From my experience you need smoke. So you either have to bring your own or a friend to smoke for you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
473 LemonadeWarrior Members 1,776 posts 6,776 battles Report post #11 Posted September 9, 2017 Oh that was what I understood from one his Youtube vids... Well I only liked his YouTube vids, not the streaming... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,053 [SYN] MrDeaf Members 16,027 posts 12,803 battles Report post #12 Posted September 10, 2017 I can see radar mino being possible if the islands are aligned just right... but otherwise, it's usually better to stay in the open and smoke up and allow the friendly DDs to spot the red DDs. The guns are very deadly inside of 10km against DDs, so long as they go broadside. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
30 Sivle Beta Testers 186 posts 7,803 battles Report post #13 Posted September 15, 2017 I enjoyed the RN cruisers with smoke leading up to the Minotaur but did not find the play style with smoke equipped at tier 10 enjoyable. I saw Yuro's video and decided to give it a go since it was sitting in my port unplayed for the most part. I am a cruiser player and my preferred play style is to rush up to some cover near a cap with the DDs to support early game and then find spots to ***trigger warning*** invis-a -fire from or bully other ships with your hydro, heal, radar, torpedoes and 10 x 152 guns with a 3.2 second reload. The Minotaur with radar has felt so much more dynamic and fun. It is one of those ships for me that makes me laugh due to some of the ridiculous things it can do. All that being said, I could not recommend spending all the time and resources on getting it if you are looking for a versatile or forgiving tier 10 cruiser. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,092 [TOG] Bill_Halsey Members 4,758 posts 34,565 battles Report post #14 Posted September 17, 2017 So any specifics on the range and duration? Radar + hydro would turn the Mino into a short range version of the DM. The problem is that you don't live long in short range engagements. The ship, you killed close up, his buddies further away will. I see a trend for the devs to force RU style death matches here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
17,574 [WOLF5] HazeGrayUnderway Members 38,605 posts 31,254 battles Report post #15 Posted September 17, 2017 4 hours ago, Bill_Halsey said: So any specifics on the range and duration? Radar + hydro would turn the Mino into a short range version of the DM. The problem is that you don't live long in short range engagements. The ship, you killed close up, his buddies further away will. I see a trend for the devs to force RU style death matches here. Full Stealth Build Minotaur 8.9km detection range Hydro for 100 seconds Ship detection 4.92km Torp detection 3.42km Radar (replaces Smoke) Ship detectioin 9.9km for 40seconds Worthless tin can armor either way, no smoke? No island cover? You're dead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
619 [-GPS-] Landing_Skipper Members 2,954 posts 45,848 battles Report post #16 Posted September 19, 2017 Radar Mino in division with Fletcher or Gearing => [edited] TIME!!! However, even then your division mate needs to be really good as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,092 [TOG] Bill_Halsey Members 4,758 posts 34,565 battles Report post #17 Posted September 21, 2017 Well, I found a map where the radar Mino is an epic fail. Epicenter. the minute you open up is when you die quickly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,053 [SYN] MrDeaf Members 16,027 posts 12,803 battles Report post #18 Posted September 23, 2017 On 9/21/2017 at 9:04 AM, Bill_Halsey said: Well, I found a map where the radar Mino is an epic fail. Epicenter. the minute you open up is when you die quickly. tears and okinwa just don't favor short range cruisers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites