5,912 [CNO] Soshi_Sone Members 7,450 posts 23,087 battles Report post #1 Posted September 9, 2017 The QE has a modernized AA suite nicely suited for range/rate extension modules and captain skills. I've been playing around with it, and it feels like a T6 Texas. Throw in the flag, and it spec's out at "81" AA....at T6. And with MFC and the range extension, has some nice "effective" reach for T6. I haven't worked the numbers on the other lines, but I think that makes QE the best AA BB at T6. I'm sure someone will let me know if I'm wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
438 [PROJX] hangglide42 Members 1,120 posts 41,085 battles Report post #2 Posted September 9, 2017 Yup - I probably will once I put a permanent Captain on her (currently just moving Jack Dunkirk up through the tech tree). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,523 Stauffenberg44 Members 4,335 posts 10,761 battles Report post #3 Posted September 9, 2017 no Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,887 [NSF] Big_Spud Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 5,304 posts 9,284 battles Report post #4 Posted September 9, 2017 Way ahead of you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,361 WanderingGhost Alpha Tester 5,281 posts 12,191 battles Report post #5 Posted September 9, 2017 Doing some of the math, it may not be a crazy idea. Just stock numbers vs Saipan's base numbers, the strongest attack craft (aside maybe max upgrades/skills E) it'll see, inside the range of 20 mm guns it should have 16% or there about per second to shoot down a plane if you focus it, 13-14 if you don't. BFT alone can bring that closer to 20%. Flags and anything else, should be about 21% maybe 22% if you focus the target, with a max range I think it's 2.8 km out, against tier 9, not factoring in if you chose manual AA to up the bigger guns. Against standard tier 9 aircraft. Your talking 30% or higher vs tier 6 planes you focus them, least the USN ones that typically have more HP. NM, the USN "Oh hey our thing is AA" BB actually only puts out a 24-25% chance against the bare bones tier 6 planes same conditions. Potentially better to attack a New Mexico than a QE - talk about power creeped. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,880 [WTFS] TheKrimzonDemon Members 9,331 posts 13,756 battles Report post #6 Posted September 9, 2017 QE is an AA monster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
272 Hurlbut ∞ Members 3,067 posts 2,554 battles Report post #7 Posted September 9, 2017 1 hour ago, Big_Spud said: Way ahead of you. *peers**blinks**rubs his eyes**squints at the air kills* My gods... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,198 [PVE] Sovereigndawg Members 12,065 posts 21,313 battles Report post #8 Posted September 9, 2017 58 minutes ago, Hurlbut said: *peers**blinks**rubs his eyes**squints at the air kills* My gods... next time just click the image and you won't have to squint. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,169 [SYN] mofton [SYN] Members 9,312 posts 18,907 battles Report post #9 Posted September 9, 2017 No. My QE captain will be moving up to KGV and I don't want to respec away. MFCAA will be pretty low utility on the higher tier RN BB. I use the same captain on Nelson too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
173 [KILL] vonluckner Members 589 posts 8,052 battles Report post #10 Posted September 9, 2017 I've got two 19pt UK BB captains that I trained up on the cruisers, now skilled up for BBs. Jack Dunkirk for Conqueror and Nelson, and an full AA trained captain for QE and Hood. Yes, for being worse than the Warspite in pretty much every other way, the AA QE is legit- almost a troll ship because nobody expects a T6 BB to swat squads out of the sky before they get into range. 81 AA rating with full AA spec, and 117 dps @ 7.2 km. This was literally my first game in it. edit- it's also worth mentioning that she's not like the Texas- which has very high close range DPS and very poor long range. QE doesn't have the raw stopping power of the Texas (by about 25% before MFCAA), but she has a tremendously strong and long-range aura for T6 (where you'll occasionally see some very small maps), making her much better at thinning out strikes directed at your allies. However, she does require MFCAA and AFT to really shine- so there is a higher workload as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
28 [WAIFU] Yvonne_Swanson [WAIFU] Members 226 posts 11,858 battles Report post #11 Posted September 9, 2017 3 hours ago, WanderingGhost said: Doing some of the math, it may not be a crazy idea. Just stock numbers vs Saipan's base numbers, the strongest attack craft (aside maybe max upgrades/skills E) it'll see, inside the range of 20 mm guns it should have 16% or there about per second to shoot down a plane if you focus it, 13-14 if you don't. BFT alone can bring that closer to 20%. Flags and anything else, should be about 21% maybe 22% if you focus the target, with a max range I think it's 2.8 km out, against tier 9, not factoring in if you chose manual AA to up the bigger guns. Against standard tier 9 aircraft. Your talking 30% or higher vs tier 6 planes you focus them, least the USN ones that typically have more HP. NM, the USN "Oh hey our thing is AA" BB actually only puts out a 24-25% chance against the bare bones tier 6 planes same conditions. Potentially better to attack a New Mexico than a QE - talk about power creeped. it used to be WG "oh USN is AA flavored" then later WG "oh uh USN will be uh average in all aspects (hehe that will show those yanks)" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
58 Orca86 ∞ Members 79 posts 12,719 battles Report post #12 Posted September 9, 2017 The KGV AA is worse than the QE. That's right I have a maxed out AA build 10pt Captain even did the LvL 4 Manual AA Yet WG has so de-rated the 134mm QF 50 and quad Pom Poms a KGV AA build is a waste. In the KGV I do fair against T7 DBs but forget T7 Torpedo planes or any Tier 8-9. You are dead! How a Cleveland class CL has more AA rating with 12 5/38s than 16 134 QF50s plus better range is beyond me. WG hates RN AA. The Pom Poms in full powered mounts are underrated by WG as well. Yes a slight range advantage should go to the Bofors 40mm but not .5km! .25 yes. Fire volume and thus explosive shell weight favors the Pom Pom. I warn you after the QE its all down hill from there! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
272 Hurlbut ∞ Members 3,067 posts 2,554 battles Report post #13 Posted September 9, 2017 6 hours ago, Orca86 said: The KGV AA is worse than the QE. That's right I have a maxed out AA build 10pt Captain even did the LvL 4 Manual AA Yet WG has so de-rated the 134mm QF 50 and quad Pom Poms a KGV AA build is a waste. In the KGV I do fair against T7 DBs but forget T7 Torpedo planes or any Tier 8-9. You are dead! How a Cleveland class CL has more AA rating with 12 5/38s than 16 134 QF50s plus better range is beyond me. WG hates RN AA. The Pom Poms in full powered mounts are underrated by WG as well. Yes a slight range advantage should go to the Bofors 40mm but not .5km! .25 yes. Fire volume and thus explosive shell weight favors the Pom Pom. I warn you after the QE its all down hill from there! IRL, the RN aimed for barrages rather than individual mounts' ability to single out planes and focus them down, aka "You Shall Not Pass!" type of flak barrage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites