576 IronMike11B4O Members 2,066 posts 23,619 battles Report post #1 Posted September 7, 2017 Has anyone else found these to be the absolute worst tier 10 BB guns? Or am I in a minority? Jeez talk about complete useless garbage guns. Made the mistake of hitting a flat broadside NC with AP at 10KM the results were pretty rage inducing. 7 of 8 hits for no damage aiming for the NC sweet spot. Back to 419's and never looking back. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,478 [HINON] renegadestatuz Members 7,656 posts 9,539 battles Report post #2 Posted September 7, 2017 Use HE with the 457s. Problem solved. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
206 Pata1985 Members 1,019 posts 8,525 battles Report post #3 Posted September 7, 2017 1 minute ago, renegadestatuz said: Use HE with the 457s. Problem solved. ^ This. 419's with HE also work well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,478 [HINON] renegadestatuz Members 7,656 posts 9,539 battles Report post #4 Posted September 7, 2017 1 minute ago, Pata1985 said: ^ This. 419's with HE also work well Also this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,880 [WTFS] TheKrimzonDemon Members 9,331 posts 13,756 battles Report post #5 Posted September 7, 2017 BURN THEM ALL. That is all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
45 [U_N_F] Geek_Girl Beta Testers 214 posts 11,096 battles Report post #6 Posted September 7, 2017 Dont bother..sure they say 61% fire chance but that's if you even hit anything. Think I went about 15 games with them and started maybe 4 fires in total. Went back to the 419's and average 7 to 10 fires a game. With these guns shes more like a Mega Lion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
682 [SCRAP] ArmouredCarriers Beta Testers 1,690 posts 5,582 battles Report post #7 Posted September 7, 2017 That's a shame. I prefer the look of the twin gun mounts. Otherwise it's just Montana V2.4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
576 IronMike11B4O Members 2,066 posts 23,619 battles Report post #8 Posted September 7, 2017 Guys the AP was literally so bad I was contemplating sending in the replay with a support ticket because the guns are broken LOL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,728 [ABDA] crzyhawk Beta Testers 17,538 posts 12,810 battles Report post #9 Posted September 7, 2017 (edited) Are there any ships that have an option between more guns or bigger guns, where they larger, slower guns have an advantage? ROF/shell output is king. Edited September 7, 2017 by crzyhawk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,478 [HINON] renegadestatuz Members 7,656 posts 9,539 battles Report post #10 Posted September 7, 2017 20 minutes ago, crzyhawk said: Are there any ships that have an option between more guns or bigger guns, where they larger, slower guns have an advantage? ROF/shell output is king. I personally like the bigger guns on my GK better than the smaller guns. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
12,447 [SALVO] Crucis Members 28,059 posts 41,711 battles Report post #11 Posted September 7, 2017 28 minutes ago, crzyhawk said: Are there any ships that have an option between more guns or bigger guns, where they larger, slower guns have an advantage? ROF/shell output is king. This is particularly true when you're spamming HE, since it's less about penetration and alpha and more about ROF and maximizing your chances of getting more hits and starting more fires. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
173 [KILL] vonluckner Members 589 posts 8,056 battles Report post #12 Posted September 7, 2017 The 457s on the Conqueror are actually fine. They have roughly the same firestarting potential as the 419s, but significantly lower DPM (worst at T10). Which is.. fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,055 [DAMP] Fodder4U In AlfaTesters, In AlfaTesters 2,688 posts 14,166 battles Report post #13 Posted September 8, 2017 I am 30k from the Conq but with the Lion I found using HE vs BBs and AP vs cruisers is the way to go with 419s due to the RN AP fuses you get less over pens on the thinner armor. Going to assume the 457s will be the same way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
203 Prkl8r Beta Testers 741 posts 2,149 battles Report post #14 Posted September 8, 2017 Straight up, 4 guns on the bow is not acceptable at tier X. Especially when they aren't even as good as Yamato's 6 gun bow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites