28 [ANZAC] HMAS_Sea_Shepherd Members 82 posts 6,735 battles Report post #1 Posted September 7, 2017 War gamming, please can we do something about 20km torps, these maps are way to small, even 15km torps are too long I believe that torps should be capped at 12km, considering the levels of concealment Everyone's thoughts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
23,510 [HINON] Lert Supertester 19,542 posts 13,126 battles Report post #2 Posted September 7, 2017 Anyone using the 20 km torpedoes are doing it wrong anyways, the 12 km torpedoes are way better. The 20 km ones take so long to get to their destination, plus are the most visible torpedoes in the game, making hitting anything much less likely than when using the 12 km ones. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
546 chewonit ∞ Beta Testers 1,857 posts 10,762 battles Report post #3 Posted September 7, 2017 Replace it with the 15km torpedo from the old T8 Fubuki. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,523 [-K-] Ace_04 Members 5,435 posts 9,378 battles Report post #4 Posted September 7, 2017 Hmmm....I thought 20km torps on Shima were removed ages ago. Didn't realize this was still even an issue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
39 bewbs_ Members 396 posts 9,434 battles Report post #5 Posted September 7, 2017 1 minute ago, Ace_04 said: Hmmm....I thought 20km torps on Shima were removed ages ago. Didn't realize this was still even an issue. They haven't but they are not an issue as Lert said above... they are completely useless as they are seen from Mars, you have to try yo get hit by them. WG makes you play through the 20's (or freexp) to "upgrade" to the 8/12km torps. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
900 Hiroe Members 5,579 posts 3,952 battles Report post #6 Posted September 7, 2017 If they can be seen from Mars then WG shouldn't be so niggardly with them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
795 [USCC2] _WaveRider_ Members 3,796 posts Report post #7 Posted September 7, 2017 Jeez 20km! Can you even see the target? Honestly by the time they get there the next game will have started! I can see the point of using torps with a range outside or close to the avarage radar range, but to far and I can't see how they can be effective. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,523 [-K-] Ace_04 Members 5,435 posts 9,378 battles Report post #8 Posted September 7, 2017 9 minutes ago, bewbs_ said: WG makes you play through the 20's (or freexp) to "upgrade" to the 8/12km torps. Interesting tactic by WG considering their efforts to rid the seas of these during the "torpedo soup" days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
349 [SYN] Warped_1 [SYN] Members 1,376 posts 15,293 battles Report post #9 Posted September 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, _WaveRider_ said: Jeez 20km! Can you even see the target? Honestly by the time they get there the next game will have started! I can see the point of using torps with a range outside or close to the avarage radar range, but to far and I can't see how they can be effective. They are just a minefield for area denial. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,604 [-K-] Edgecase [-K-] Members 3,200 posts 12,954 battles Report post #10 Posted September 7, 2017 The only things you hit with 20km torpedoes are: AFKers in the enemy spawn CVs you didn't know were there Friendlies who went C when you launched from A 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,805 [TBW] Sovereigndawg Members 6,579 posts 12,429 battles Report post #11 Posted September 7, 2017 The 20 km's seem to gravitate towards team mates. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
546 chewonit ∞ Beta Testers 1,857 posts 10,762 battles Report post #12 Posted September 7, 2017 20km fish with TA was my weekend potato harvester for some time. Launched from across the map toward the red spawn and I could usually hit someone camping there. Great for LOLs. Not for wins. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
436 [RUST] _Luna Alpha Tester 884 posts 3,403 battles Report post #13 Posted September 7, 2017 I never liked them as they limited your options. You could only use then when you were in front of your team, and fire them directly across the map at the enemy. You could not flank the enemy and fire from their sides or rear as the torpedo's would often run into friendly areas if they missed, which they did often. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,014 Fog_Repair_Ship_Akashi Alpha Tester 3,666 posts 7,250 battles Report post #14 Posted September 7, 2017 58 minutes ago, Lert said: Anyone using the 20 km torpedoes are doing it wrong anyways, the 12 km torpedoes are way better. The 20 km ones take so long to get to their destination, plus are the most visible torpedoes in the game, making hitting anything much less likely than when using the 12 km ones. @Lert is right the 12 km torps are the way to go, they give you a nice balance of range, speed and viability. Used my Corgi account to test the 3 top torp sets on the Yugumo and Shimikaze. The 12 km ones were the best , however different people have different playstyles so it depends. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
478 [-K-] Final_Spark Beta Testers 2,440 posts 8,653 battles Report post #15 Posted September 7, 2017 Remember, the Gearing's torps go 16.5km without all of the baggage that Shima's 20km torps have. The 20km torps can be used effectively, but you basically require Torpedo Acceleration (so now you're on 16km range) and you're firing at camping ships with poor acceleration and maneuverability. Everything else that gets hit is a fluke. The 12km are the way to go. The extra 3 second reload is negligible and you don't really need too much more range than that. Detection, speed, and damage are all improvements. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,381 [SYN] Kuckoo Members 4,577 posts 11,452 battles Report post #16 Posted September 7, 2017 The Shim's 20km torpedoes are a non-issue. They're spotted miles away and - unless you're in a stock Iowa caught at broadside - are easy to avoid. The torpedoes fired from Gearings with Torpedo Acceleration skill. Those are fish you should be afraid of. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
59 [NSEW] LowSpeed_US Members 499 posts 8,751 battles Report post #17 Posted September 7, 2017 If you get hit by 20km torpedoes (with silly detection range), you've clearly taken your situational awareness off your screen whilst trying to delete a bote... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
42 [TF-64] Slightlyaskewed Members 379 posts 13,180 battles Report post #18 Posted September 7, 2017 Please quit telling everyone about gearing Torps with TA. I use these will pretty decent success. I don't need more people watching out for me when that scary shima is out there getting more of Thier attention. If they start paying more attention to me then I lose some of the surprise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7,456 [NMKJT] KiyoSenkan Beta Testers 21,594 posts 3,884 battles Report post #19 Posted September 7, 2017 (edited) I've long suggested removing Shimakaze's 20km torpedoes in exchange for buffing her 12km torpedoes. Or shortening the range on the 20s (to 16) in exchange for buffing their speed and reducing their ridiculously stupid detection range. Edited September 7, 2017 by AraAragami Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
144 Desmios Members 539 posts 2,761 battles Report post #20 Posted September 7, 2017 20km torps are total trash, no one uses them. They can be seen miles away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
