Italian Cruisers and American CL/CA Line Split Discussion.

[skull_122_steel]

I have a question and I would like your opinions on this. should the Italian navy's first cruiser line be a light cruiser line or a heavy cruiser line or both(on release have both a light and heavy cruiser tier X)

 

some quirk of the light cruiser line could be having both DF and Hydro like the Duca D'aosta

some quirks of the heavy cruiser line could be  getting the heal earlier and no access to the DF.

[pewpewpew42]

I think it should transition from light to heavy cruisers. If a line is to be split, the US cruisers come to mind as top priorities.

[skull_122_steel]

3 minutes ago, pewpewpew42 said:

I think it should transition from light to heavy cruisers. If a line is to be split, the US cruisers come to mind as top priorities.

yeah this is probably going to come out after the USN CL/CA line split

[GrandAdmiral_2016]

Heavies. Duc D'Aosta, a premium, is the starting point for the lights for now. Looking at RM cruiser classes, you can go down two tiers and up 3 tiers for CLs, including the Capitani Romani class, and there is enough meat for 4 CA classes IMHO. Trieste, Bolzano and Pola are 1st rate heavies. The paper ship I leave to the dreamers. I want Roma!

[aethervox]

Aren't light cruisers a lot more common, hence, there is a lot more choice? Correct me, if I am wrong.

[dseehafer]

Protected/Light cruisers up till tier 7, after tier 8 it's going to be all paper anyway. I'd much rather have Abruzzi at tier 7 in the tree than Zara.  Leave the torpedoless Trento/Bolzano and Zara type heavy cruisers as premiums, I say. There is no sense in introducing torpedoes to the line at tier 4 with Condottieri 1/2, then taking them away for the heavy cruisers at tiers 6 and 7 and then possibly giving them back to the paper ships at tier 8 and above. Let the Light cruisers go up to tier 7 and you have no wierd line-quirks in the middle.

 

II - Quarto

III - Nino Bixio

IV - Giussano/Cadorna

V - Montecuccoli

VI - Eugenio di Sovia

VII - Abruzzi

VIII - ?

IX - ?

X - ?

[mr3awsome]

Its almost certainly going to be a mixed line; there simply aren't enough ships for two lines (one of lights and one of heavies)

[Demon93IT]

Most likely it will be CLs on low tiers and CAs on high tiers.

[skull_122_steel]

6 minutes ago, Demon93IT said:

Most likely it will be CLs on low tiers and CAs on high tiers.

someone wants the Italian navy really bad

[Demon93IT]

Just now, skull_122_steel said:

someone wants the Italian navy really bad

Hard to say no to a Zara look-alike capable of reaching 37 knots plus four torps per side :D

[VonLippe]

What's not to love about ships with barber-pole stripes?

[skull_122_steel]

Just now, Demon93IT said:

Hard to say no to a Zara look-alike capable of reaching 37 knots plus four torps per side :D

that sound like a great tier eight or a premium whats the bow armour

[skull_122_steel]

Just now, VonLippe said:

What's not to love about ships with barber-pole stripes?

though's are don't bomb me because im a delicious candy cane stripes

[Demon93IT]

1 minute ago, skull_122_steel said:

that sound like a great tier eight or a premium whats the bow armour

At tier VIII would be OP as hell since would be the fastest, the most protected and with good guns(especially if WG goes for the 3x3 layout). Don't recall how thick the bow was, need to check.

 

4 minutes ago, VonLippe said:

What's not to love about ships with barber-pole stripes?

The stripes look gorgeous, thankfully the RA gave the RM a reason to paint them :D(without causing damage because they used medium bombers thankfully and not torpedo planes)

[skull_122_steel]

Just now, Demon93IT said:

At tier VIII would be OP as hell since would be the fastest, the most protected and with good guns(especially if WG goes for the 3x3 layout). Don't recall how thick the bow was, need to check.

ohh I thought the Zara class had a 2X4 8In gun loadout and you said it was a look alike my bad tier IX may work if the go for the 3X3 loadout

[Demon93IT]

Just now, skull_122_steel said:

ohh I thought the Zara class had a 2X4 8In gun loadout and you said it was a look alike my bad tier IX may work if the go for the 3X3 loadout

The looks are somewhat similar and there is a 2x4 version of it, then again she could still be ludicrously OP due(pretty much a better Hipper overall)

[skull_122_steel]

Just now, Demon93IT said:

The looks are somewhat similar and there is a 2x4 version of it, then again she could still be ludicrously OP due(pretty much a better Hipper overall)

got it

[Dr_Venture]

I'm fine with cls as the low, and cas as the high.

 

I like me dem 8 inch guns

[Xlap]

IMO both, you start the line with light cruisers and finish with heavy. Like most of the lines do.

 

As to the gimmick i dont know, we are running out of gimmicks. Maybe a new consumable with a Roman legion as boarding party, só you cant cap enemy ships. 

[skull_122_steel]

Just now, Dr_Venture said:

I'm fine with cls as the low, and cas as the high.

 

I like me dem 8 inch guns

yeah definitely with the italian high pen and shell velocity.

[MikeDSp]

I can see all nations have both Light Cruiser and Heavy Cruiser lines they played different and where for different roles also. Many natione Like Germany and Japan didn't go by the Washignton Naval Treaty so other nations started to build heavier bigger cruisers also to keep up.

[skull_122_steel]

1 minute ago, Xlap said:

IMO both, you start the line with light cruisers and finish with heavy. Like most of the lines do.

 

As to the gimmick i dont know, we are running out of gimmicks. Maybe a new consumable with a Roman legion as boarding party, só you cant cap enemy ships. 

I meant both as in a split line right of the start and gimmick is having both DF and Hydro in separate slots

[Demon93IT]

6 minutes ago, Xlap said:

IMO both, you start the line with light cruisers and finish with heavy. Like most of the lines do.

 

As to the gimmick i dont know, we are running out of gimmicks. Maybe a new consumable with a Roman legion as boarding party, só you cant cap enemy ships. 

I'm waiting for the Adeptus Astartes and their boarding torpedoes, who wouldn't love to torp people and have as payload a bunch of angry Terminators ;)

 

Joking aside who knows, all depends if Duca d'Aosta is representative enough of the whole line or not(as far as gimmicks that is, the ship herself represents well how Italian CLs were built)

[skull_122_steel]

8 minutes ago, Demon93IT said:

I'm waiting for the Adeptus Astartes and their boarding torpedoes, who wouldn't love to torp people and have as payload a bunch of angry Terminators ;)

 

Joking aside who knows, all depends if Duca d'Aosta is representative enough of the whole line or not(as far as gimmicks that is, the ship herself represents well how Italian CLs were built)

I hope the gun she has are representative of the rest of the line because her gun are great at hunting CL/CA and DDs with their muzzle velocity and pen

[SinqueScheiDeMona]

Abruzzi is tier six material when compared to Budy. 

 

Speed is only going to be 32 - 34 knots

10 rifles with 5 rpm not 8 rpm. 

100+ 30mm or WG interpretation. 

 

A Ciano class might appear as a tier 7 CL. If that is the route chosen. As it leaves a lot to WG's interpretation. Roon A Y X triple or Quad A X arrangement with 152/55.