970 [CRAYN] godzilla5549 Beta Testers 2,085 posts 4,674 battles Report post #1 Posted September 6, 2017 (edited) It is time for this horrible map to be removed from the game. This map is beyond saving and it is the dumbest map in the whole game. The entire match, people just sit behind islands and camp, taking shots over islands and never advancing. There are no tactics involved on this map, only a game of who can camp the best. High tier maps in general are beyond low quality, and need serious help. Edited September 6, 2017 by godzilla5549 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9,432 [GWG] BrushWolf [GWG] Alpha Tester 29,208 posts 15,770 battles Report post #2 Posted September 6, 2017 Tears is really only a bad map for Epicenter. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
98 saru_richard Members 571 posts 4,688 battles Report post #3 Posted September 6, 2017 am i the only one here who likes it and thinks it just needs a few changes? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,284 The_first_harbinger Members 3,681 posts 8,111 battles Report post #4 Posted September 6, 2017 (edited) Tears of the pushers is an attempt by WG to make an giant 1v1 destroyer arena that indirectly nerf the IJN dds even more. Unfortunately this was exploited by radar and smoke cruisers camping around the islands that occasionally catches careless dds. According to WG logic, here's the most plausible change: Add more islands on each side of the centre, and move them further away from the centre, so that any bb and cruisers that dares to push can get focused to oblivion from campers behind islands from further away, and IJN dds can go f*k themselves trying to contest the center. Edited September 6, 2017 by The_first_harbinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,153 [ARGSY] centarina Members 10,326 posts 16,228 battles Report post #5 Posted September 6, 2017 I actually like this map. it really rewards pushing the flank tactics . once you collapse a flank, you can roll up down the middle. the issue of course is that most people just won't do anything except hide. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
173 [KILL] vonluckner Members 589 posts 8,056 battles Report post #6 Posted September 6, 2017 It either needs epicenter removed, or needs hard cover added to the thunderdome area. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,201 [PVE] Sovereigndawg Members 12,067 posts 21,313 battles Report post #7 Posted September 6, 2017 (edited) 34 minutes ago, BrushWolf said: Tears is really only a bad map for Epicenter. Epicenter should be played on Ocean map. Now that would be fun. Defend the base should be played on Ocean too. Edited September 6, 2017 by Sovereigndawg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
903 anonym_OlK73e329bMY Members 3,284 posts Report post #8 Posted September 6, 2017 Just kill it. What if it breeds with another map? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,053 [SYN] MrDeaf Members 16,027 posts 12,803 battles Report post #9 Posted September 6, 2017 needs to not have those rows of tall islands to hide behind, because that's all everyone does. Hide behind the islands You can't even flank around the islands effectively when there is a CV around, because you will likely be the only ship up on the flank, while everyone pitches tents on those islands. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,528 Noshiro_ Members 4,274 posts 4,649 battles Report post #10 Posted September 6, 2017 49 minutes ago, BrushWolf said: Tears is really only a bad map for Epicenter. I'd argue standard ToTD is worse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,770 [RLGN] Estimated_Prophet Members 19,163 posts 35,195 battles Report post #11 Posted September 6, 2017 31 minutes ago, vonluckner said: It either needs epicenter removed, or needs hard cover added to the thunderdome area. Like those islands in the middle of C on Neighbors and A on Land of Fire? 24 minutes ago, Elegant_Winter said: Just kill it. What if it breeds with another map? In terms of hated maps; such a Love Child could be called 'Shards of the Desert,' or perhaps 'Strait of Tears.' 1 minute ago, Cruiser_Noshiro said: 'd argue standard ToTD is worse. Not sure I've ever seen it in that mode; just Domination and Epicenter that I can recall... Taking advantage of ARP commanders in regular IJN ships recently to grind my ARP Kongo towards 19 points using Atago, (grind her towards 19 points, and works for Yamamoto campaign and whatever missions were running lest week...) ...such fun that was... Tears of the Desert; Epicenter mode; FOUR FREAKING TIMES IN A ROW... Anyway; I thought the map's name was 'Tears of the Cruisers.' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
639 DiddleDum Members 1,655 posts 11,982 battles Report post #12 Posted September 6, 2017 42 minutes ago, Sovereigndawg said: Epicenter should be played on Ocean map. Now that would be fun. Defend the base should be played on Ocean too. That would be interesting. I'd be up to give it a go or two. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
903 anonym_OlK73e329bMY Members 3,284 posts Report post #13 Posted September 6, 2017 2 minutes ago, DiddleDum said: That would be interesting. I'd be up to give it a go or two. Pure masochism. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,201 [PVE] Sovereigndawg Members 12,067 posts 21,313 battles Report post #14 Posted September 6, 2017 1 minute ago, Elegant_Winter said: Pure masochism. No one could complain about players hiding behind Islands. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
789 DerKrampus Members 1,853 posts 3,584 battles Report post #15 Posted September 6, 2017 Tears has its ups and downs, but it's playable. Mountain Range, on the other hand, can go to hell and burn for eternity. I have no love for that map, nor do I know of anyone who does. It simply needs to be taken out back and put out of its misery, like a lame farm animal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
991 [HELLS] GrandAdmiral_2016 Members 2,970 posts 39,953 battles Report post #16 Posted September 6, 2017 Everybody parks on the fringes behind cover until one team gets a numerical advantage and pushs at the right time. Otherwise its' as dull as ever. Give everybody long-range radar just for this map..that'd be fun! First player to poke his nose out gets it shot off! On a more serious note, learn to play it. It is one of the few maps that I am on the plus side in games won, and my stats are meh.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,894 [HINON] Doomlock [HINON] Wiki Lead, Beta Testers, Privateers 6,801 posts 5,248 battles Report post #17 Posted September 6, 2017 I believe the name of the map is Tears of Cruisers, thank you. As to the post. I do feel something must be done, I just don't know what. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,197 GhostSwordsman Members 6,589 posts 8,581 battles Report post #18 Posted September 6, 2017 2 hours ago, Estimated_Prophet said: Anyway; I thought the map's name was 'Tears of the Cruisers.' 1 hour ago, Doomlock said: I believe the name of the map is Tears of Cruisers, thank you. As I tell everyone else, I just call it Tears, because nobody likes it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
421 [HINON] Jnobsire Members 1,591 posts 20,010 battles Report post #19 Posted September 6, 2017 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,848 [ARRGG] CLUCH_CARGO [ARRGG] Members 5,770 posts Report post #20 Posted September 6, 2017 4 minutes ago, Jnobsir said: Ted and Bill would most likely say "Excellent Mappage" I always wondered if it was just me seeing this style of play on this map Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
432 aethervox Alpha Tester 4,252 posts 9,421 battles Report post #21 Posted September 6, 2017 I find TotD fine the way it is. You have one guess where my vote went. Funny how all maps have something 'wrong' according to 'someone'. I'm thinking the real problem is called 'failing to adapt' to the map you are given. This thread is just another 'Map Whiner' rant. Go back to WoT where the Map Whiners really did a 'number' to that game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,038 [BONKS] FratStar4Life Members 1,738 posts 19,999 battles Report post #22 Posted September 6, 2017 Tears is probably my favorite map; I don't see anything wrong with it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,678 VGLance Banned 2,229 posts 11,923 battles Report post #23 Posted September 6, 2017 Love the map and love it with epicenter. Especially when playing a DD that can invisitorp (Fletcher) or a long range sniping cruiser (Hindenburg) or any BB. All you have to do is read all the reasons why people hate it and do the very things that counter why they suck so bad at this map and game mode. I get some of my biggest games in this map and mode because people just do the same thing over and over again while complaining it doesn't work. I'm not going to get into how insane that is because... damn. I don't understand the capacity of so many players to suffer from such an extreme level of tunnel vision thinking they are forced to play a certain way on that map. Especially when their strategy fails over and over again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,153 [ARGSY] centarina Members 10,326 posts 16,228 battles Report post #24 Posted September 6, 2017 my highest xp game with over 4100 base xp was epicenter on this map using t8 fubuki in t10 match with unicum division on the red team. It was really fun match that i will remember. The biggest thing to remember on this map is to ignore the center with exception of 1 DD in case of epicenter. then play normally by pushing one of the edge with strong force. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,812 [-KIA-] ValkyrWarframe Members 5,244 posts 16,381 battles Report post #25 Posted September 6, 2017 Epicenter needs to be removed or rework for the map. Not much else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites