352 [GRFOX] GreyFox78659 Members 2,242 posts 5,234 battles Report post #1 Posted September 2, 2017 (edited) Just wondering if it will ever happen as it was even made in a 1/700 model kit. Edited September 2, 2017 by GreyFox78659 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
39,480 [HINON] Lert Alpha Tester 27,858 posts 27,299 battles Report post #2 Posted September 2, 2017 3 minutes ago, GreyFox78659 said: Just wondering if it will ever happen No. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,827 [HINON] tcbaker777 [HINON] Members 9,951 posts 19,184 battles Report post #3 Posted September 2, 2017 5 minutes ago, GreyFox78659 said: Just wondering if it will ever happen as it was even made in a 1/700 model kit. it already ignores the armor of every ship it goes against, if it had 20 inch guns, even angling wouldn't stop it from penning 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,040 [NATO] hipcanuck Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 2,690 posts 10,745 battles Report post #4 Posted September 2, 2017 4 minutes ago, GreyFox78659 said: Just wondering if it will ever happen as it was even made in a 1/700 model kit. No, the dev's said they wont consider anything beyond the 18.1's. The IJN tried the 20" guns but stories around they internet say they failed their initial tests. According to navweap site 2 barrels and one gun mount were manufactured. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,023 [HINON] Fog_Repair_Ship_Akashi Alpha Tester 3,666 posts 8,087 battles Report post #5 Posted September 2, 2017 28 minutes ago, GreyFox78659 said: Just wondering if it will ever happen as it was even made in a 1/700 model kit. That was not even the Yamato class. That was a completely separate class (more specifically the A-150 class). And no it will never happen in this game the 18.1 inch pen enough, we don't need 20.1 inch guns to make armor and angleing completely useless. Get your facts right first and think before you post. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
191 [VVV] yamato6945 [VVV] Members 822 posts 17,604 battles Report post #6 Posted September 2, 2017 Project A-150 Super Yamato is an entirely different class then the Yamato class. And to answer your question NO it will never appear in game and it never should 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7,521 [HINON] RipNuN2 Members 14,340 posts Report post #7 Posted September 3, 2017 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
31 [CHASE] Melancholic_Ghost Beta Testers 172 posts 1,966 battles Report post #8 Posted September 3, 2017 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9 HSmobileunit1171 Members 26 posts 2,513 battles Report post #9 Posted September 3, 2017 18 inch guns are very powerful, but the Yamato can and is beaten every day by 'weaker' ships. It never faced another BB in battle. No one will ever know for sure how powerful or weak she and the Musashi really were. Would it have beaten an Iowa class? Could a South Dakota or North Carolina have beaten it? We will never know for sure. The planned 20 in. guns never had a chance to be installed. That would have been really interesting. 6 20 in. guns, instead of 9 18 in. The same could be said for the planned German super Battleships, or the Montanas. Which would have been the best? You can program in all the specifics into a computer, and it will give you an answer, but when it comes down to all of the unknown variables in actual battle, there is no clear cut winner. Any one of them could claim to be the best, and at any given time, any one of them would be. Just battle it out with what we are given, and see who comes out on top. Fair seas! yall! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 [BIO] 50ShadesofGandalf Members 2 posts 2,904 battles Report post #10 Posted January 31, 2018 here are some pictures i found it would be cool if they added it but game breaking tho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
23 [DCMAA] Nihon_Senkan_Yamato Beta Testers 62 posts 11,150 battles Report post #11 Posted April 26, 2018 On 03/09/2017 at 7:26 AM, GreyFox78659 said: Just wondering if it will ever happen as it was even made in a 1/700 model kit. That ship is the Design A-150 or more popularly known as Super Yamato. It has 3x2 51cm guns, her secondaries will be comprised of 10cm dp guns(Akizuki guns, which means superb long range AA) as opposed to the usual 12.7cm dp guns. She is a completely different ship to Yamato and just slapping the 6x51cm guns(yes she only has 6 guns as opposed to Yamato’s 9) will not turn Yamato into one. It's arguably not going to be as fun to play because her dmg per Salvo is gonna be lower than Yamato as Yamato has 3 more shells per broadside and those 51cm guns are going to break balance. The closest thing I'd advocate for is giving Yamato A-150's secondaries but even that might make Yamato a tad too powerful tbh. Trust me I love Yamato, she is my favorite ship ever but I understand why Yamato is the way she is in the game and I am fine with it 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,574 [TNP66] landedkiller Beta Testers 3,189 posts 9,380 battles Report post #12 Posted April 27, 2018 Jeez should just have one of those fun modes with this A-150 in it and a few other odds and ends. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
22 FirebirdXIV Members 95 posts 688 battles Report post #13 Posted May 9, 2018 Maybe, if the H-class were added, then we may have a decent comp and battle. I'd love to see something like this go "derp" (whoops, that's what WOT players do) with massive guns and delete a ship with one salvo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
16 [W_K_A] snakes3425 Members 123 posts 1,095 battles Report post #14 Posted November 6, 2018 I'd have to say they probably wouldn't have worked out in real life. The Yamatos required their decks to be clear before firing their main batteries, a factor that may have contributed to their loss since both were reported to have been firing their main batteries during their final battles so many AA Guns were not manned. Mounting 20in monsters you're pushing the boundaries of what a ship of the era could endure without capsizing due to a broadside being fired Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,413 [REVY] Royeaux Members 9,749 posts 7,317 battles Report post #15 Posted November 6, 2018 10 hours ago, snakes3425 said: I'd have to say they probably wouldn't have worked out in real life. The Yamatos required their decks to be clear before firing their main batteries, a factor that may have contributed to their loss since both were reported to have been firing their main batteries during their final battles so many AA Guns were not manned. Mounting 20in monsters you're pushing the boundaries of what a ship of the era could endure without capsizing due to a broadside being fired The Yamato in her last battle was using her main battery as AA guns, but she wouldn't have been using them for very long. Once the planes were swarming around the fleet, the main battery wouldn't really have been able to target anything anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
16 [W_K_A] snakes3425 Members 123 posts 1,095 battles Report post #16 Posted November 7, 2018 16 hours ago, Sventex said: The Yamato in her last battle was using her main battery as AA guns, but she wouldn't have been using them for very long. Once the planes were swarming around the fleet, the main battery wouldn't really have been able to target anything anymore. It would still have taken time to man, and bring up ammo to the other AA Guns, since the exposed AA gun emplacements had to be clear before the main batteries fired, while the main batteries were firing the only AA Guns on Yamato that would've been firing on the incoming planes were the enclosed ones and the AA guns on Yahagi and the other escort ships, and by the time of Yamato's loss the Imperial Navy had lost nearly all of it's veteran officers, and crews so the crew was made up largely of raw recruits fresh out of basic training Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,413 [REVY] Royeaux Members 9,749 posts 7,317 battles Report post #17 Posted November 7, 2018 7 hours ago, snakes3425 said: It would still have taken time to man, and bring up ammo to the other AA Guns, since the exposed AA gun emplacements had to be clear before the main batteries fired, while the main batteries were firing the only AA Guns on Yamato that would've been firing on the incoming planes were the enclosed ones and the AA guns on Yahagi and the other escort ships, and by the time of Yamato's loss the Imperial Navy had lost nearly all of it's veteran officers, and crews so the crew was made up largely of raw recruits fresh out of basic training It would also take time for the TF 58 aircraft to close to attack range. I don't know at what range the beehive shells were detonated, but the guns themselves had a 26 mile range at 45 degrees elevation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2 Firejunk_2017 Members 30 posts 56 battles Report post #18 Posted November 9, 2018 (edited) Also 20 inch and up guns face epic drawbacks such as reload (It takes a long time to get the guns up and ready), accuracy (think of the Mikasa and Kawachi accuracy wise) and the practical side is a bit limited, this would be the only time you may see HE rounds over-penning if they do not hit the core of the hull, destroyers and most cruisers will also be difficult for your mains to kill so you would have to mainly rely on your secondaries to get DD and Cruiser kills. Edited November 9, 2018 by Firejunk_2017 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,413 [REVY] Royeaux Members 9,749 posts 7,317 battles Report post #19 Posted November 9, 2018 9 minutes ago, Firejunk_2017 said: Also 20 inch and up guns face epic drawbacks such as reload (It takes a long time to get the guns up and ready), accuracy (think of the Mikasa and Kawachi accuracy wise) and the practical side is a bit limited, this would be the only time you may see HE rounds over-penning if they do not hit the core of the hull, destroyers and most cruisers will also be difficult for your mains to kill so you would have to mainly rely on your secondaries to get DD and Cruiser kills. Why would the guns be inaccurate? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
308 [70] Guardian54 Members 1,431 posts 12,114 battles Report post #20 Posted November 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, Sventex said: Why would the guns be inaccurate? Ranging shots are harder. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,413 [REVY] Royeaux Members 9,749 posts 7,317 battles Report post #21 Posted November 9, 2018 Just now, Guardian54 said: Ranging shots are harder. But a bigger shell means it'll fly straighter and farther. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2 Firejunk_2017 Members 30 posts 56 battles Report post #22 Posted November 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Sventex said: But a bigger shell means it'll fly straighter and farther. Not always, in most cases it is true for standard Battleship guns, but there is a point where your rounds become less accurate from mass and drag (both factors from the intense size) And the lack of effective propellent and gun rifling would also influence accuracy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,413 [REVY] Royeaux Members 9,749 posts 7,317 battles Report post #23 Posted November 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Firejunk_2017 said: Not always, in most cases it is true for standard Battleship guns, but there is a point where your rounds become less accurate from mass and drag (both factors from the intense size) And the lack of effective propellent and gun rifling would also influence accuracy. And where would that point be where the rounds become less accurate from mass and drag? As I recall, the Germans used up to a 31in shell during WWII. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
157 [VVV] AtlanticRim Members 391 posts 2,400 battles Report post #24 Posted November 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Sventex said: 31in shell Good heavens! I want to see the gun that shell was fired from (And consequently, want to hear the boom). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,413 [REVY] Royeaux Members 9,749 posts 7,317 battles Report post #25 Posted November 9, 2018 Just now, AtlanticRim said: Good heavens! I want to see the gun that shell was fired from (And consequently, want to hear the boom). Schwerer Gustav Gun. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
