903 anonym_OlK73e329bMY Members 3,284 posts Report post #1 Posted September 2, 2017 (edited) Greetings. I was thinking a bit about the reward for First Blood, and it occurred to me that rewarding First Blood better is another way to promote more aggressive play. Think about it a little. Instead of a single Zulu flag, which is a rather small reward, how about 10 Zulu flags or 10 of some other flag, like most of the other medal-rewards? You could take it a step further too, of course, and make the reward even more attractive. It would doubtlessly spur the eager among us to spearhead suicidal charges and whatnot. What are your thoughts on this? Edited September 2, 2017 by anonym_OlK73e329bMY Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
903 anonym_OlK73e329bMY Members 3,284 posts Report post #2 Posted September 2, 2017 Ideally, it would be repeatable too. Just make the reward outrageous, and I assure you that play will speed up some. Of course, it would be mostly destroyers vying for it sometimes. In that case, how about rewards for second and third blood too? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9,555 [GWG] BrushWolf [GWG] Alpha Tester 29,418 posts 15,836 battles Report post #3 Posted September 2, 2017 No, it would reward bad play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,882 [WTFS] TheKrimzonDemon Members 9,337 posts 13,771 battles Report post #4 Posted September 2, 2017 I think the reward is so small because they reason that someone has to get it, by default. Unless everyone runs away and no-one ever fires, someone will earn FB every single battle. So, to them, it's a cheap achievement. I agree with you, the reward is too small, and increasing it, once people realized it, would help promote more aggressive play. It would also, sadly, promote people waiting for a ship to get low, and then snipe it out from under those who actually earned it, just to get the reward. Still, it would cause many to hit "w" and get going. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
903 anonym_OlK73e329bMY Members 3,284 posts Report post #5 Posted September 2, 2017 1 minute ago, BrushWolf said: No, it would reward bad play. Not necessarily. Aggressive play isn't always bad. I hope you elaborate some here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
903 anonym_OlK73e329bMY Members 3,284 posts Report post #6 Posted September 2, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, TheKrimzonDemon said: I think the reward is so small because they reason that someone has to get it, by default. Unless everyone runs away and no-one ever fires, someone will earn FB every single battle. So, to them, it's a cheap achievement. I agree with you, the reward is too small, and increasing it, once people realized it, would help promote more aggressive play. It would also, sadly, promote people waiting for a ship to get low, and then snipe it out from under those who actually earned it, just to get the reward. Still, it would cause many to hit "w" and get going. It's possible there would be negative side-effects, but I think it would be a net gain. I have so much fun when everyone plays more aggressively (much more commonly observed at low and mid tiers), and almost none at all when stalemates occur. Anyway, I'm glad someone agrees. Edited September 2, 2017 by anonym_OlK73e329bMY Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9,555 [GWG] BrushWolf [GWG] Alpha Tester 29,418 posts 15,836 battles Report post #7 Posted September 2, 2017 It would lead to the wrong kind of aggressive with too many players yoloing vying for the award. It would also mostly make it impossible for slow ships to ever get. If I really wanted that kind of play style I would play on the RU server where most matches quickly devolve into a huge furball in the center of the map. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,882 [WTFS] TheKrimzonDemon Members 9,337 posts 13,771 battles Report post #8 Posted September 2, 2017 1 minute ago, BrushWolf said: If I really wanted that kind of play style I would play on the RU server where most matches quickly devolve into a huge furball in the center of the map. Sign me up! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9,555 [GWG] BrushWolf [GWG] Alpha Tester 29,418 posts 15,836 battles Report post #9 Posted September 2, 2017 2 minutes ago, BrushWolf said: If I really wanted that kind of play style I would play on the RU server where most matches quickly devolve into a huge furball in the center of the map. 1 minute ago, TheKrimzonDemon said: Sign me up! Make an account over there and either use a multi region mod or install the RU client. Just remember to install it in a different location than the NA client. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
903 anonym_OlK73e329bMY Members 3,284 posts Report post #10 Posted September 2, 2017 7 minutes ago, BrushWolf said: It would lead to the wrong kind of aggressive with too many players yoloing vying for the award. It would also mostly make it impossible for slow ships to ever get. If I really wanted that kind of play style I would play on the RU server where most matches quickly devolve into a huge furball in the center of the map. You've played on the Russian server? I've looked at the win rates for it before and the German battleships have higher win rates there. That lends some credence to what you're saying, but it doesn't make the play any less desirable to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9,555 [GWG] BrushWolf [GWG] Alpha Tester 29,418 posts 15,836 battles Report post #11 Posted September 2, 2017 I have played WoWP and WoWS on both the EU and the RU servers. The EU players are a little more aggressive than the NA players but no where near as aggressive as the RU players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,299 [A-D-F] alexf24 Members 7,879 posts 44,869 battles Report post #12 Posted September 2, 2017 One flag is fine. What they should do is repeatable, not one a day. That is ridiculous. Same goes for Detonation flags. Once a day? So the second time (and I have been detonated twice in a day), you get bupkus. Seriously? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
18,004 [WOLF5] HazeGrayUnderway Members 39,393 posts 31,553 battles Report post #13 Posted September 2, 2017 "I want to be the first kid on my block to get a confirmed kill." 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
903 anonym_OlK73e329bMY Members 3,284 posts Report post #14 Posted September 2, 2017 (edited) 18 minutes ago, BrushWolf said: I have played WoWP and WoWS on both the EU and the RU servers. The EU players are a little more aggressive than the NA players but no where near as aggressive as the RU players. I feel like I belong on the Russian server - aside from the fact I don't speak Russian, of course. 14 minutes ago, alexf24 said: One flag is fine. What they should do is repeatable, not one a day. That is ridiculous. Same goes for Detonation flags. Once a day? So the second time (and I have been detonated twice in a day), you get bupkus. Seriously? It would be nice if they were all repeatable. I seriously doubt most people play enough to even earn 2 Confederates or Close Quarter Experts in a single day. 9 minutes ago, HazeGrayUnderway said: "I want to be the first kid on my block to get a confirmed kill." What's that a reference to? Edited September 2, 2017 by anonym_OlK73e329bMY Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,523 Stauffenberg44 Members 4,335 posts 10,770 battles Report post #15 Posted September 2, 2017 (edited) 30 minutes ago, BrushWolf said: no where near as aggressive as the RU players. I am feeling the temptation to try the RU server out if I can connect decently. ) Davai! And re the OPs point I would go for more than the single flag certainly but am not unhappy with a zulu flag as it is. Edited September 2, 2017 by Stauffenberg44 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
240 Krupp_Sabot Members 1,289 posts 2,399 battles Report post #16 Posted September 2, 2017 18 minutes ago, Elegant_Winter said: I feel like I belong on the Russian server - aside from the fact I don't speak Russian, of course. It would be nice if they were all repeatable. I seriously doubt most people play enough to even earn 2 Confederates or Close Quarter Experts in a single day. What's that a reference to? Full Metal Jacket Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
34 [M-B] dannyboy1939 [M-B] Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 212 posts 11,821 battles Report post #17 Posted September 2, 2017 Be nice to get more then one, I get more in crates and don't really bother to try and get First Blood, if I do whoopee 1 flag, the (enter ship here, usually DD) is gone which is more valuable then the single flag from that anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
903 anonym_OlK73e329bMY Members 3,284 posts Report post #18 Posted September 2, 2017 39 minutes ago, Stauffenberg44 said: I am feeling the temptation to try the RU server out if I can connect decently. ) Davai! And re the OPs point I would go for more than the single flag certainly but am not unhappy with a zulu flag as it is. I like having a low ping, and I would feel a little bad about playing on a server where I didn't know the language. Otherwise, I would most likely indulge my curiosity. 35 minutes ago, Krupp_Sabot said: Full Metal Jacket Oh I see. I've seen it, but I didn't catch the reference. Happens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9,555 [GWG] BrushWolf [GWG] Alpha Tester 29,418 posts 15,836 battles Report post #19 Posted September 3, 2017 21 minutes ago, Elegant_Winter said: I like having a low ping, and I would feel a little bad about playing on a server where I didn't know the language. Otherwise, I would most likely indulge my curiosity. The Russians are not very talkative, you can go the entire match without one word in chat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
903 anonym_OlK73e329bMY Members 3,284 posts Report post #20 Posted September 3, 2017 12 minutes ago, BrushWolf said: The Russians are not very talkative, you can go the entire match without one word in chat. Nice. I can be talkative sometimes, but normally I like peace and quiet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
